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re: On Average, A Veteran Commits Suicide Every 65 Minutes
Posted on 2/18/21 at 2:11 pm to GhostofLesticleMiles
Posted on 2/18/21 at 2:11 pm to GhostofLesticleMiles
quote:
The Government is good at 2 things:
1. Nothing
2. Overreacting
I have to disagree. They're good at 3 things:
1. Harassing their citizens
2. Taxing their citizens
3. Killing their citizens
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Posted on 2/18/21 at 2:36 pm to Sao
You're conditioned and trained to be war fighters, you fight their wars, and they send you on your way when your enlistment is up. You're not conditioned or trained on how to reacclimate yourself back into society and most spend the rest of their lives feeling like they no longer belong in society. If you top that with some of the things we've seen and/or done, you have a recipe for disaster without REAL help...And most were conditioned to compartmentalize and keep things to yourself out of fear of being looked down upon while you're in and just our of fear when you're out.
We have the greatest military in the world, but we severely lack in care and reacclimating our veterans back into society. We see it for every major war but we never learn.
We have the greatest military in the world, but we severely lack in care and reacclimating our veterans back into society. We see it for every major war but we never learn.
Posted on 2/18/21 at 2:40 pm to bubba102105
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And most were conditioned to compartmentalize and keep things to yourself out of fear of being looked down upon while you're in and just our of fear when you're out.
By no means would I compare fire/ems to what people see in war but there's a problem in the fire service with this. Folks who have true PTSD and refuse to say anything due to being made fun of and laughed at. Had a doctor admit to me once that there's a huge problem of firefighters from my department that are on anti depressant and or anxiety medicine. Obviously completely different circumstances though than someone at war.
Posted on 2/18/21 at 2:41 pm to Sao
quote:That number is likely high - possibly by a lot.
On Average, A Veteran Commits Suicide Every 65 Minutes
However, I truly believe the number would be MUCH lower if we would allow psychedelic therapy for these vets. It's criminal that our society has criminalized these substances - even in therapeutic settings.
Posted on 2/18/21 at 2:42 pm to windshieldman
I have a good friend who's a 20+ year EMS tech in New Orleans. It doesn't just apply to war for sure!
Posted on 2/18/21 at 2:44 pm to Big Scrub TX
Posted on 2/18/21 at 2:45 pm to Sao
When a person is under that sort of stress and sees that sort of violence, it’s changed them.
I will say this, watching one of the guys i shots, eyes go black as i watched his body shut down is a picture that i have never forgotten.
Things like that never go away
I will say this, watching one of the guys i shots, eyes go black as i watched his body shut down is a picture that i have never forgotten.
Things like that never go away
Posted on 2/18/21 at 3:22 pm to pdubya76
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pdubya76
So sorry for your loss. Please know that your father is well appreciated by Americans for his service. Your father and other veterans are the real hero’s to this country!
Posted on 2/18/21 at 3:47 pm to Sao
The Forever War has a lot to do with it.
Posted on 2/18/21 at 3:48 pm to shoelessjoe
Thank you for that . He was a kind soul that never sought the limelight for his service. He was a great American that I think about daily .
There are many more just like him out there.
There are many more just like him out there.
Posted on 2/18/21 at 3:50 pm to Sao
Peer support groups are very helpful. Talk, talk, talk. Throw up the bull shite and get it the hell out. Viet era Vets were treated poorly. I was accused of everything from killing civilians to being a dope jumkie.
The hardest part was coming home. I was also denied employment for being a Vet.
The hardest part was coming home. I was also denied employment for being a Vet.
This post was edited on 2/18/21 at 4:23 pm
Posted on 2/18/21 at 3:51 pm to MorbidTheClown
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et, the federal govt. no matter who is in office finds trillions of dollars for handout and gender studies in foreign countries.
Yep, it's really outrageous. We shouldn't be funding thousands of things before we take care of our own citizens, and in particular those who sacrificed in some way.
Posted on 2/18/21 at 3:54 pm to kywildcatfanone
the fact that anyone who is injured serving in this country's military has to worry about health care is sickening.
Posted on 2/18/21 at 4:11 pm to Sao
I lost a coworker to suicide some years back. He was a door gunner in Nam and no doubt was part of a lot of bad stuff. His family said the fun loving, outgoing kid that left home came back as somebody they didn't know anymore. He sought help but the demons always found their way back to him.
The poster here that posted a few months ago that said ptsd isn't real, just weak minded people is so full of crap. The numbers don't lie.
The poster here that posted a few months ago that said ptsd isn't real, just weak minded people is so full of crap. The numbers don't lie.
This post was edited on 2/18/21 at 4:17 pm
Posted on 2/18/21 at 4:11 pm to MorbidTheClown
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the fact that anyone who is injured serving in this country's military has to worry about health care is sickening.
I’ll say this about the VA, they won’t turn any vet away. This is a double edged sword though. You have a lot of guys using the VA as a primary care clinic. If they get a runny nose, they go to the VA. Personally, I’ve never used the VA for anything that wasn’t service connected. Part of the clog up is the misuse, IMO. Just because someone received a 10% service connected rating due to hearing loss shouldn’t mean the VA should have to treat his finger he broke working in the yard. If that same person needs hearing aids, then then VA should provide them. The waiting room at most VA hospitals is abysmal.
Posted on 2/18/21 at 4:17 pm to Traveler
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I lost a coworker to suicide some years back. He was a door gunner in Nam and no doubt was part of a lot of bad stuff. His family said the fun loving, outgoing kid that left home came back as somebody they didn't know anymore. He sought help but the demons always found their way back to him.
My cousin was in Vietnam. Was a fun loving teenager when he left, and when he came back he was very quiet, and shy, and solemn. We found out over time that he and some other soldier had to shoot some kids who were coming toward them with explosives strapped to their bodies.
I can't imagine what that would do to a person. He's still alive, but doesn't speak about it much at all, and was never very outgoing when he came home from there.
Posted on 2/18/21 at 4:20 pm to Mo Jeaux
Luckily I’ve had good experiences with the va regarding healthcare
That’s not to say everyone does
My problem has always been claim and compensation for disability which I’ve finally received a decent rating for after 6 years of dealing with them
That’s not to say everyone does
My problem has always been claim and compensation for disability which I’ve finally received a decent rating for after 6 years of dealing with them
Posted on 2/18/21 at 4:22 pm to LegendInMyMind
A lot of active duty troops are still fearful of being chartered out of the military, and rightfully so. All it takes is a shitty Chain of Command to ruin your career, granted it also entails shitty things the soldier does as well.
But if you’re junior enlisted you get punished more severely than officers for the same offense
But if you’re junior enlisted you get punished more severely than officers for the same offense
Posted on 2/18/21 at 4:23 pm to kywildcatfanone
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e found out over time that he and some other soldier had to shoot some kids who were coming toward them
These were the things the evening news were suppressed from reporting until they couldn't deny it actually was happening. The massacre at Mai Li brought the war into peoples living rooms.
This post was edited on 2/18/21 at 4:29 pm
Posted on 2/18/21 at 4:26 pm to lsucoonass
quote:I'm old, and have had interaction with vets from every war going back to WWI, the most recent generation of vets were the most supported to go into war, while they were at war(loosely termed,) and to transition back to the "world," and was not a conscripted force, they're not doing so well, imo
A lot of active duty troops are still fearful of being chartered out of the military, and rightfully so. All it takes is a shitty Chain of Command to ruin your career, granted it also entails shitty things the soldier does as well.
But if you’re junior enlisted you get punished more severely than officers for the same offense
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