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NPR: This oil company invests in pulling CO2 out of the sky — so it can keep selling crude

Posted on 12/27/23 at 3:38 pm
Posted by ragincajun03
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Posted on 12/27/23 at 3:38 pm
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NOTREES, Texas — One of the boldest, most controversial experiments in fighting climate change is taking shape in a dirt patch in West Texas.

In a couple of years, giant fans will start whirring at the Stratos facility near Notrees, a town in the wind-swept Permian Basin of Texas.

It will capture carbon dioxide from the atmosphere and inject it underground, in a process called direct air capture.


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And the company behind it is not a university, or a Silicon Valley startup. It is, in fact, an oil company: Occidental Petroleum, or Oxy for short, an American producer that's placing a bet on this technology.

Why? Well, there's money, naturally. Companies looking to offset their emissions are willing to pay to get carbon removed from the atmosphere and stored underground. The government is putting billions of dollars into this technology. And Occidental has the right expertise to scale this technology up and bring costs down, thanks to similarities between direct air capture and oil production.

But there's another reason. And it's no secret.

The company intends to use the technology to do what it does best: to extract more oil, thus helping prolong the life of the same fossil fuels that climate experts say need to be wound down.


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And by combining the two, the company even thinks it can market "net-zero" oil — because the carbon captured while producing the oil "cancels out" the CO2 released by burning it. Oxy's CEO, Vicki Hollub, has been consistently clear about her hope for the technology.

"If it's produced in the way that I'm talking about, there's no reason not to produce oil and gas forever," Hollub told NPR.

It's the kind of comment that makes climate advocates scream, and even some supporters of Oxy wince. Because the question it raises is obvious.

Is direct air capture a way to save the world? Or a way to save the oil industry?


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Occidental's ambitions are being charted by Hollub, a 63-year-old oil executive with the backing of Warren Buffett and a history of making bold bets. Starting as an engineer, she rose through the ranks at Oxy to become its CEO in 2016 — a rare female leader in the mostly all-boys club of the Texas oil fields.

Her climate stance, too, is unusual. Occidental has set a net-zero target that includes the emissions from the oil it sells, a first for a big U.S. oil company.

Sucking carbon from the sky and injecting it underground is key to that vision.


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The technology to pull carbon dioxide from the air is not new. It's been around since the 1950s, and companies like Carbon Engineering have been pitching it as a climate solution for more than a decade. The challenge was doing it at a massive scale, and for a reasonable cost.

Dan Friedmann, the CEO of Carbon Engineering, the company Oxy bought, is used to people questioning why a climate startup would pair up with an oil giant.

He has a simple answer.

"We needed somebody that could build billion-dollar plants. Oxy can," Friedmann told NPR in an interview earlier this year. "We needed a company that was willing to go into this business with their top people, their money — and frankly, to this day, I can't find another one other than Oxy."

Friedmann also emphasized the challenge of putting carbon dioxide underground after it's captured.

"The only people in the world that know how to do that are oil companies, and Oxy is the world expert," Friedmann says.

That's because Oxy injects a lot of carbon dioxide into the earth already as part of its oil production.


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Oxy actually sees benefits for the oil and gas industry even if the captured carbon isn't used for oil production. Just the ability to purchase "carbon removal credits" might persuade some companies and countries that they don't need to move as quickly to reduce their use of oil.

Climate experts, however, say the world needs to scale up direct air capture, while also massively reducing the use of oil and gas, and reject arguments that the technology can actually be used to justify more oil production.


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"Removing carbon from the atmosphere is costly and uncertain," Fatih Birol, the head of the IEA, said this fall. "We must do everything possible to stop putting it there in the first place."

Some climate advocates have a more profound distrust of this technology. They see it not just as risky, but as a con: a way to distract and delay climate action altogether.


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But Hollub's public statements about extending the life of oil have fueled the mounting tensions over whether the direct air technology is being used to delay a transition from oil.

"Whether it's good or bad depends on the how," says Natasha Vidangos, the senior director for climate innovation and technology at the Environmental Defense Fund.

That, in turn, will decide whether direct air capture, if it can even be scaled up, is actually helpful for the fight against climate change — or is just an excuse to stop trying.


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Posted by el Gaucho
He/They
Member since Dec 2010
52925 posts
Posted on 12/27/23 at 3:41 pm to
The climate isn’t real

If there was a giant bubble around the earth wouldn’t the “space ships” have popped it?
Posted by SloaneRanger
Upper Hurstville
Member since Jan 2014
7639 posts
Posted on 12/27/23 at 3:45 pm to
Carbon capture has to be one of the most ridiculous grifts in recent history.
Posted by jimjackandjose
Member since Jun 2011
6496 posts
Posted on 12/27/23 at 3:47 pm to
Spaceships didn't get through it

You think the challenger incident was by accident. Couldn't have a normal teacher spilling the beans
Posted by TheFlyingTiger
Member since Oct 2009
3994 posts
Posted on 12/27/23 at 3:48 pm to
Scam
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
259992 posts
Posted on 12/27/23 at 3:48 pm to
Seems more reasonable than transforming (destroying) the economies of the world.
Posted by ProjectP2294
South St. Louis city
Member since May 2007
70105 posts
Posted on 12/27/23 at 3:49 pm to
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NOTREES, Texas


seems like a convenient place for carbon capture technology
Posted by redstick13
Lower Saxony
Member since Feb 2007
38461 posts
Posted on 12/27/23 at 3:52 pm to
ADNOC are buying up green acreage in Africa as their strategy.
Posted by Pendulum
Member since Jan 2009
7042 posts
Posted on 12/27/23 at 3:53 pm to
I dont really understand the article. Do climate screamers want to stop creation of new carbon or just control o&g. Nothing on the article about how effective it is, or how viable scaling up would be, just crying about how this will prolong oil and gas if they can figure out a way to reach net zero. Who loses here?
Posted by High C
viewing the fall....
Member since Nov 2012
53739 posts
Posted on 12/27/23 at 3:54 pm to
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Is direct air capture a way to save the world?




I hate these people.
Posted by texn
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Member since Nov 2019
3496 posts
Posted on 12/27/23 at 3:56 pm to
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It will capture carbon dioxide from the atmosphere and inject it underground,


So, they are literally blowing up the Earth?

I think what they are really doing is fracking with the CO2 but, shush, don't tell the tree huggers
Posted by wutangfinancial
Treasure Valley
Member since Sep 2015
11079 posts
Posted on 12/27/23 at 4:00 pm to
What a hilarously unproductive use of capital. Buffett will figure out how to make this a huge market via regulatory capture.
Posted by deltaland
Member since Mar 2011
90526 posts
Posted on 12/27/23 at 4:02 pm to
Ah the shifting of the goal posts.

This proves it’s not about climate at all. They just hate the oil industry and want to destroy it. It makes them mad when oil companies outsmart them and keep operating while accomplishing climate goals. They are only happy when oil companies go bankrupt

They have zero interest in reasonable solutions.


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Is direct air capture a way to save the world? Or a way to save the oil industry?


This isn’t an either/or. It can very easily be both. Assuming there is a climate crisis in the first place. If all oil companies remove the same amount of C02 being put into the atmosphere by the burning of fossil fuels, and current levels are not dangerous, then there is no problem.

The reason all of these climate activists don’t want a real solution is because then they’d be out of a job. Their livelihood depends on keeping a manufactured crisis ongoing
Posted by bayouvette
Raceland
Member since Oct 2005
4717 posts
Posted on 12/27/23 at 4:03 pm to
Same thing with race baiting. Activist would not have a job.
Posted by dgnx6
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2006
68450 posts
Posted on 12/27/23 at 4:07 pm to
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I hate these people.


If all oil ceased tomorrow the world would end. Earth would still be here. But it would get ugly out there.
Posted by tigerbutt
Deep South
Member since Jun 2006
24568 posts
Posted on 12/27/23 at 4:30 pm to
Old news have you been living under a rock?
Posted by ksdolfan
Houma, La.
Member since Sep 2007
1536 posts
Posted on 12/27/23 at 4:36 pm to
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The technology to pull carbon dioxide from the air is not new. It's been around since the 1950s


It's been around since God invented a green leaf. In fact, he even takes it and turns into oxygen. WOW!
Posted by billjamin
Houston
Member since Jun 2019
12395 posts
Posted on 12/27/23 at 4:37 pm to
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NOTREES, Texas

really leaning into the "hot girl hiding behind every tree" west texas joke.
Posted by Bjorn Cyborg
Member since Sep 2016
26689 posts
Posted on 12/27/23 at 4:41 pm to
What a scam. Anyone who believes this voodoo bullshite is a moron.
Posted by coopsdad
Luling, LA
Member since Sep 2009
916 posts
Posted on 12/27/23 at 5:02 pm to
Awwee yeahhh! My bonus is about to get bigger. F350 incoming.
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