re: New Orleans man beats thief to death

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Why not start with being perfectly ok with victim gets to fight back

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A. to defend himself if attacked
B. only to the point where threat of injury or death is gone

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I’m good with that. Are you?

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if somebody steels a victim’s wallet

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You don't get to decide if that person lives or dies.

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but in no way can you argue that a stolen wallet deserves the death penalty.

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I can argue that very point every which way as a matter of fact.

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You don't get to decide if that person lives or dies.

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You had me until this stupidity. Intent to kill has not been established. Intent to deliver an arse whoopin is pretty clear. What court will not support the right of a victim to react with an immediate act of retaliation when there’s no intent to murder and the average person has every reason to believe an arse whoopin has a very high survival rate?

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Human life is more valuable than any form of property.

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Start helping yourself to the property of others, see how much your life is worth.

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Duncan received a two-year prison sentence in October 2008 after pleading guilty in Orleans Parish Criminal District Court to purse snatching, records show. A week before his death, Orleans Parish prosecutors had dropped a simple burglary charge against him. He was due in court this week in connection with a separate felony theft charge.

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A man with Morris’ name and date of birth has prior arrests in the area of Tampa, Florida, on allegations of marijuana possession and domestic violence battery, according to court records.

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On one hand, a serial thief. On the other hand, a pothead who beats up women (or gay men, who knows)

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the average person has every reason to believe an arse whoopin has a very high survival rate?

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The "average person" believes 5 minutes of kicks to the head has a "very high survival rate"? I guess they're even stupider than I thought.

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Start helping yourself to the property of others, see how much your life is worth.

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WTF argument is that?

I think we can agree that I value life differently than many others and I have no intent on testing the limit.

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Like others have said, if he had punched the thief and made his head hit the concrete, that’s one thing. But he wailed on him for 5 minutes. At some point the thief was unconscious and he kept beating him. It’s pretty messed up when you think about it.

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I’m curious to hear more details.. if it was a 5 minute brawl after he wrestled his wallet back then I’m on the side that he should walk free. But that’s not the picture the article paints:

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Morris caught up with him in the rear driveway of Hi Class Customs, an upholstery and window tinting shop at 4201 S. Claiborne. Morris wrested his wallet back and then began beating on Edwin with his fists, police said.

At least two people tried to restrain Morris. But he kept punching and then started kicking Edwin, who “was begging Morris to stop and was attempting to cover his face and body,” police said.

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Sounds like the thief was curled up in the fetal position while Morris kicked him, despite two people trying to pull him off, for 5 minutes. Set a timer for 5 minutes and then think about kicking someone on the ground for that long. It’s a LONG time to be beating someone. That sounds like a textbook example of manslaughter...

I get the response that this guy shouldn’t be punished for being a victim. But someone who snaps like that and kills a man curled up on the ground is not innocent, regardless of whether the thief deserved an arse whipping. Reminds me of the scene from American History X.

He was defending his wallet

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Which means by law, he deserves to in prison for his actions.

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Does Castle Doctrine / Stand Your Ground apply here? The wallet is his possession.

I would think not, but who knows?