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re: Negotiating a raise. Edited for update

Posted on 6/29/26 at 9:29 am to
Posted by SUB
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Posted on 6/29/26 at 9:29 am to
$50K raise? Damn. How much are you making now? I couldn't fathom asking for a raise of that much unless I already had a pretty hefty salary. So I assume that's the case with you. If you are making $100K and want a 50% raise, I wouldn't even bother asking. You'd need a promotion for something that substantial. But if you are making $300K? That's a reasonable ask.
This post was edited on 6/29/26 at 9:31 am
Posted by CAD703X
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Member since Jul 2008
93913 posts
Posted on 6/29/26 at 9:30 am to
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But if you aren't willing to leave, don't do it. Otherwise, you may end up with a slight bump in pay but a less collegial/stable work situation.
this

every action has an equal and opposite reaction

young kids dont get it. i know a few people who pulled this in the past; particularly one russian DBA who worked for us who felt he was INDISPENSABLE..and he was..for a bit. but he pulled this shite 4x in a year and we paid him...then the second one of the jr DBAs was up to speed we dumped his arse.
Posted by wareaglepete
Union of Soviet Auburn Republics
Member since Dec 2012
18990 posts
Posted on 6/29/26 at 9:35 am to
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Back in my day we were given a $.25 cent raise and were GRATFUL for it! These mileniala dont understand the value of a doller and having PRIDE in there workplace!


Posted by CatfishJohn
Member since Jun 2020
21040 posts
Posted on 6/29/26 at 9:37 am to
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I used to work at a place and whenever they had a "problem" employee that they thought would sue them if they fired them they would hire a head hunter to find that person another job. Unsolicited job offer could mean that they are looking to get rid of you. Hopefully, this is not the case.


Damn, that's clever
Posted by SpaceCamp
Member since Nov 2020
558 posts
Posted on 6/29/26 at 9:40 am to
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Never take the counter offer from your current employer.



It really depends. I've worked places that have mature, sensible leadership and they wouldn't take offense to someone using an unsolicited offer to negotiate a raise. I've done something similar and gotten a promotion.

You just have to know your audience, because they could do what others have said and have a vendetta against you after giving you a raise.


But many places don't have mature, sensible leadership. And I can almost guarantee that no place is going to match a 50k raise unless he is bringing in millions of revenue or has a skill set that can't easily be replaced. The job market is absolutely terrible right now, and in general, employees aren't in a position of strength unless they are irreplaceable in some way.

From an HR compensation standpoint, very few salary bands have a 50k difference, and they aren't going out of range for what they obviously consider fair compensation. Plus, jacking his salary up means that they now have to look at everyone else in that pay band so that 50k can become 500k if they have to bump other people up or others get disgruntled because he is now making 50k more than them.

If he feels like he deserves it from his current employer, I think he should make a case why his skill set is 50k more valuable and spell out what he brings to the table.
Posted by N2cars
Member since Feb 2008
40033 posts
Posted on 6/29/26 at 9:42 am to
Assuming this isn't a troll post, give your notice and wish them well.



If youre worth $50K more and they dont recognize it, you shouldn't work there.
Posted by DonJuanDaMiles
San Diego, CA
Member since Feb 2014
1652 posts
Posted on 6/29/26 at 9:44 am to
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Shut up you fricking troll. None of this happened. You think we forgot your last thread that got whacked stating women that don't have children have wasted their lives. fricking idiot


Apparently not only companies have long memories. This is good practice for telling your employer.
Posted by tuzak
Central, LA
Member since Jan 2018
94 posts
Posted on 6/29/26 at 9:49 am to
50k is a lot of money for a company to match.
Be ready to take new job soon
Posted by Carson123987
Middle Court at the Rec
Member since Jul 2011
68125 posts
Posted on 6/29/26 at 9:53 am to
They won't match $50k. You can get that by leaving and then coming back though
Posted by Alt26
Member since Mar 2010
35839 posts
Posted on 6/29/26 at 9:54 am to
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i said to take the new job; what i think is a bad idea is assuming the current employer's business model can just absorb a 50k bump for this guy. like companies have endless money and only exist to screw their employees.


One factor is an employee may not fully know the total picture with the company that may put the company in a spot where absorbing a $50k bump is best for the business as a whole.

Very early in my career I felt I was struggling at my (then) company. Maybe it was youthful insecurity, but it was enough to push me to start looking for an exit strategy before I was fired. I landed an offer with a different company with a decent (though not life changing) salary increase. I then went to my boss to tell him about the offer and that I was going to accept it. No leverage play. No request to match the offer. Just a courtesy notice. His response to the news was one of almost devastation. That surprised me because I didn't think I was particularly that important to the company. But what I didn't know at that time was that a more senior member of our group (it was a small company) was leaving and taking some business, while an even more senior member of the group was about to be fired for a mistake that really hurt the company. Thus, the company felt it could not absorb another loss in addition to the two that were about to happen.

My timing inadvertently could not have been more perfect. Through no doing of my own I was able to leverage a bigger salary and more senior position in the company because at that particular moment the company could not afford to lose me
Posted by newmexicotiger
Member since Sep 2017
4456 posts
Posted on 6/29/26 at 9:54 am to
Posted by RoyalWe
Louisiana
Member since Mar 2018
5156 posts
Posted on 6/29/26 at 9:57 am to
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I decided to stay, and then they started nitpicking everything I did
This will happen. There is a price to pay for playing this game. It's much cleaner to tell them you're leaving and if THEY want to try to keep you let THEM make that decision -- not because you requested it.
Posted by Uga Alum
Member since Jul 2022
6689 posts
Posted on 6/29/26 at 9:59 am to
You know, I should probably sleep on it another night, but at the end of the day, frick it. 50k is a lot of money. They are clearly underpaying me. I’ll just leave.
Posted by Wwarmouth
Member since Dec 2025
1788 posts
Posted on 6/29/26 at 10:00 am to
Holy Boomer slop

Posted by Spaceman Spiff
Savannah
Member since Sep 2012
20499 posts
Posted on 6/29/26 at 10:02 am to
What if they say best we can do is 10k?
Posted by Uga Alum
Member since Jul 2022
6689 posts
Posted on 6/29/26 at 10:05 am to
I would think that is probably bullshite. It will cost them more than $50k to find a replacement and get them up to speed.
Posted by castorinho
13623 posts
Member since Nov 2010
87974 posts
Posted on 6/29/26 at 10:10 am to
Brah. I rarely disagree with your takes, but you should sit this one out. What you described happens, but that is far from the norm.
Posted by castorinho
13623 posts
Member since Nov 2010
87974 posts
Posted on 6/29/26 at 10:12 am to
Oh frick. Forgot the OP is a troll.
Posted by Spaceman Spiff
Savannah
Member since Sep 2012
20499 posts
Posted on 6/29/26 at 10:28 am to
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I would think that is probably bullshite. It will cost them more than $50k to find a replacement and get them up to speed.


Maybe. They get a newer person they can pay less than what you make doing the same job? Not a loss for them.
Posted by Spankum
The Sip
Member since Jan 2007
62695 posts
Posted on 6/29/26 at 10:32 am to
Well your current employer is not going to give you a $50K raise…nobody is that valuable to a company. If you have been a decent employee, you may be able to parlay it into a 15% or 20% raise, if you propose some process improvements that you are willing to implement yourself.

I think you need to be honest with yourself about why (if) another company is willing to pay so much more. Are benefits different? Is work environment different? Are job duties and responsibilities different?

Companies generally are well aware of what a particular job is worth…
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