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re: Negotiating a raise. Edited for update

Posted on 6/29/26 at 9:17 am to
Posted by Weekend Warrior79
Member since Aug 2014
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Posted on 6/29/26 at 9:17 am to
The problem you will run into with trying to negotiate with your current company, is they will want time to review your file, see if they feel your performance warrants the increase, gain an understanding of the market rate for your position (what will it take to replace you), etc. This will take time, and even if it was not stated your new offer has an expiration date.

I would take the current offer and have an open conversation with your management team. Let them know why you are taking this offer and let them know your preference would have been to stay with your current company (even if not true), but you were approached and this is something you cannot pass up at this time. Put in your notice and do everything you can to leave on good terms.

^^^All of this is assuming this is a good company and one you may want to consider coming back to if the right opportunity presents itself.
Posted by GetBackToWork
Member since Dec 2007
6592 posts
Posted on 6/29/26 at 9:17 am to
Evaluate both positions as if salary was made equal and determine which one offers a better track forward. Then consider how your current company will react to this scenario and your request. Sometimes it is better to simply leave than to burn a bridge. There are a lot of industries, though, where this is playing out, so it may not be a total shock. Make sure that other job offer is firm and ready to go in case you are shown the door.
Posted by Uga Alum
Member since Jul 2022
6692 posts
Posted on 6/29/26 at 9:17 am to
Yeah, I feel like this is just business. But I could see them getting personal about it.
Posted by soccerfüt
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Member since May 2013
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Posted on 6/29/26 at 9:19 am to
quote:

In my experience, you should change jobs about ever 5-7 years to keep expanding your ceiling. Longevity with a company and 3-5% annual raises is not going to bring in the cash.
Eventual ownership (or an equivalent) sure does.

Stay 40+ years has been my experience.
Posted by JohnnyKilroy
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Member since Oct 2012
41467 posts
Posted on 6/29/26 at 9:19 am to
quote:

That is horrible advice to not seek a raise.


Meh not really.


Your current employer who is happily paying you well below market rate isn’t going to be happy when they learn they need to pay you a shitload more to keep you.

You will 100% have a target on your back if they match and you stay.
Posted by CatfishJohn
Member since Jun 2020
21040 posts
Posted on 6/29/26 at 9:20 am to
I'll add that chasing 50k more is not always the right decision. I've chased more money and regretted it.

50k more with a much worse work/life balance, worse benefits, less defined path to move up, etc.

You should weigh all of these things.
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Member since Jun 2009
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Posted on 6/29/26 at 9:21 am to
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you agreed to work for that salary when you accepted the job.


Dude frick that. You are worth what someone is willing to pay you. The company almost assuredely doesn't give a frick about him and would drop him teh moment it's beneficial, why should he not look out for himself and his family first?
Posted by SpaceCamp
Member since Nov 2020
558 posts
Posted on 6/29/26 at 9:21 am to
Never take the counter offer from your current employer.
Posted by slidingstop
Member since Jan 2025
2423 posts
Posted on 6/29/26 at 9:22 am to
quote:

Would prefer not to change jobs


You're going to be super-pissed if you decline the offer and get laid off by your current employer.
Posted by CAD703X
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Member since Jul 2008
93913 posts
Posted on 6/29/26 at 9:22 am to
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Stay 40+ years has been my experience.
i'm getting downvotes but i just passed the 30 year mark with my current company.

i've had multiple opps in the past to jump for 'get rich quick' salaries but i took alot more into consideration before making my decision to stay.

could i be making more now? maybe. but i can tell you a few of these offers were from risky start-ups and more than a few shuttered within a couple of years and i counted my blessings that i didn't jump ship.
Posted by HattiesburgTiger5439
Hattiesburg ms
Member since Sep 2023
1147 posts
Posted on 6/29/26 at 9:22 am to
This 100% its all about how you present it to your current employer.
If you say I have this offer will you match it? If not im gone. Then be ready to pack it up.
If you come at them and say Hey, I love working here and love the company as well. I have this offer to better myself and my family is there anyway you would be willing to match it and if not what would you be willing to do?
Then negotiate
Posted by CatfishJohn
Member since Jun 2020
21040 posts
Posted on 6/29/26 at 9:23 am to
quote:

Never take the counter offer from your current employer.



It really depends. I've worked places that have mature, sensible leadership and they wouldn't take offense to someone using an unsolicited offer to negotiate a raise. I've done something similar and gotten a promotion.

You just have to know your audience, because they could do what others have said and have a vendetta against you after giving you a raise.

Posted by lsubatman1
Member since Feb 2009
1983 posts
Posted on 6/29/26 at 9:24 am to
Back in my day we were given a $.25 cent raise and were GRATFUL for it! These mileniala dont understand the value of a doller and having PRIDE in there workplace!
Posted by CAD703X
Liberty Island
Member since Jul 2008
93913 posts
Posted on 6/29/26 at 9:24 am to
quote:

Dude frick that. You are worth what someone is willing to pay you. The company almost assuredely doesn't give a frick about him and would drop him teh moment it's beneficial, why should he not look out for himself and his family first?
damn why so bitter?

i said to take the new job; what i think is a bad idea is assuming the current employer's business model can just absorb a 50k bump for this guy. like companies have endless money and only exist to screw their employees.

wait until word gets around (and it will) that employee X is making 50k more than his peers? that will go over well.
Posted by BabyTac
Austin, TX
Member since Jun 2008
16886 posts
Posted on 6/29/26 at 9:25 am to
Be prepared for them to say no, and be ready to leave if they do.

My company has recently created a policy that they will not match or base performance raises based on other offers or something like that. In other words, they don’t want employees constantly bringing them other offers and holding them hostage.

It’s all sort of bullshite if an essential employee comes by with one, but I also get the point. If someone is constantly going out there, interviewing to the point of getting other offers, is he really committed to the team?
Posted by samsconst
Member since Nov 2021
12 posts
Posted on 6/29/26 at 9:25 am to
I used to work at a place and whenever they had a "problem" employee that they thought would sue them if they fired them they would hire a head hunter to find that person another job. Unsolicited job offer could mean that they are looking to get rid of you. Hopefully, this is not the case.
Posted by Alt26
Member since Mar 2010
35839 posts
Posted on 6/29/26 at 9:25 am to
Above all, this....

quote:

Don't do it unless you're actually willing to take the other job if your current job refuses to match.


quote:

you agreed to work for that salary when you accepted the job.


Sure. Then circumstances changed. Someone else is willing to pay you more for the work. You shouldn't just ignore that fact solely to avoid upsetting your current employer. They sure as hell wouldn't feel bad letting you go in the opposite situation.

To the OP, you know your work environment better than anyone one here. So you are in a better position to know the dynamics. That matters.

But as a general premise be professional and up front. Politely tell your boss that you've been offered a position that will pay you $50k more. Tell him/her your preference would be to remain in your current job, but you can't turn down the increase in pay. Ask can the company match it? The answer more likely than not will be "no". EXPECT that and be willing to leave. But if you aren't willing to leave, don't do it. Otherwise, you may end up with a slight bump in pay but a less collegial/stable work situation.
Posted by JGTiger
Member since Aug 2007
3028 posts
Posted on 6/29/26 at 9:27 am to
quote:


It rarely works out if you stay using the tactic,


I disagree. My experience says they will look at it from a cost perspective. What will it cost to him his replacement? Get them up to speed with the same output? Re-org the position? Or just give him more money and ask him to do more? It is always cheaper to keep an existing employee (assuming you are good at your job).
If his boss is pissed about him talking to someone else to better his life, you should probably just leave anyway.
Posted by Dantheman504
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Member since Jun 2013
6706 posts
Posted on 6/29/26 at 9:27 am to
quote:

Don't do it unless you're actually willing to take the other job if your current job refuses to match.

This. If you want to stay then don't use the other job as leverage in the initial negotiation.

Ask for the raise, if they say no then say you have another offer but would like to stay.

Do not use the other offer as an initial threat to leave. I watched someone lose their job this way after they had no interest taking the other job.. The threat was accepted and the raise was declined purely based on the initial threat instead of just asking for a raise.

This post was edited on 6/29/26 at 9:29 am
Posted by Aguga
Member since Aug 2021
4018 posts
Posted on 6/29/26 at 9:28 am to
quote:

disagree. My experience says they will look at it from a cost perspective. What will it cost to him his replacement? Get them up to speed with the same output? Re-org the position? Or just give him more money and ask him to do more? It is always cheaper to keep an existing employee (assuming you are good at your job). If his boss is pissed about him talking to someone else to better his life, you should probably just leave anyway.



You’re giving way too much credit to the human race. Emotions come in when this happens and it rarely works. You almost always have a bull’s-eye in your back.
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