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re: Negotiating a raise. Edited for update

Posted on 6/29/26 at 2:48 pm to
Posted by soccerfüt
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Posted on 6/29/26 at 2:48 pm to
quote:

i'm getting downvotes but i just passed the 30 year mark with my current company.

i've had multiple opps in the past to jump for 'get rich quick' salaries but i took alot more into consideration before making my decision to stay.
Agreed.

Each person has a unique situation as to their career field, age, education, skills, temperament, “fit” in organizations, and then to further complicate the equation, there are the variety of places to work and a multitude of situations in the world of work, and then there’s always the economy.

The place I first went to work for in 1982 had been in business for over 75 years but was bankrupt by 1993. I left it well before that happened but I learned there some lessons that I’d never have learned at a healthy company.

I too had chances to leave from my subsequent job where I went in the mid ‘80s but I valued the macro “Quality of Life” more than I valued 10% or 20% more on my W-2 and working with strangers in a strange state for a corporation owned by strangers.

Turns out it worked out well for me doing so. My loyalty was rewarded.

“Past results are no guarantee of future returns.”

Posted by CAD703X
Liberty Island
Member since Jul 2008
93913 posts
Posted on 6/29/26 at 3:17 pm to
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Turns out it worked out well for me doing so. My loyalty was rewarded.

“Past results are no guarantee of future returns.”


here i am just north of 60 and sitting in my nice home office enjoying the kids and pets, shitposting on TD and pulling in a larger salary than i probably deserve

at this point i'm looking at a 95/5 rule; 95 is my current quality of life, 5 is the appeal of a large pay increase. tough to overcome that 95, though. its literally worth 3-4x my current salary to have this lifestyle.

because i can pretty much do anything i want and get to be at home, i feel like i'm already retired so i wouldn't change a thing.

i want to go mow part of my yard at 1030am? damn straight. want to have lunch with my little boy at his school? yep. wife wants to meet me for lunch margs and little afternoon delight? oh hell yeah. (ok, that doesnt happen..she just makes me meet her at goodwill to bring home yet another piece of furniture we don't need).

i'm not sure short of losing my job if there is anything at this point that would make me take another gig.
This post was edited on 6/29/26 at 3:18 pm
Posted by Uga Alum
Member since Jul 2022
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Posted on 6/29/26 at 6:01 pm to
Updated.
Posted by idlewatcher
Planet Arium
Member since Jan 2012
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Posted on 6/29/26 at 6:03 pm to
Where is your update cuck?
Posted by blueboxer1119
Baton Rouge
Member since May 2013
9813 posts
Posted on 6/29/26 at 6:10 pm to
Take the money.

frick loyalty to any employer. They will throw you in the trash can as soon as they can replace you with someone cheaper.

Lookout for you and get yours.
Posted by TheWalrus
Land of the Hogs
Member since Dec 2012
47770 posts
Posted on 6/29/26 at 6:12 pm to
I read every post in this thread and it was an interesting discussion even though this particular scenario was totally made up.
Posted by Poker_hog
Member since Mar 2019
3686 posts
Posted on 6/29/26 at 6:21 pm to
This discussion is useless without knowing how much you make. Like is this a 50% raise or a 5% raise.

Your company isn’t going to match a 50% raise. If the other job is reasonable then take it.

If it’s a 5% raise why bother. Unless you’re not currently happy for some reason.
Posted by GeauxTigers0107
We Coming
Member since Oct 2009
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Posted on 6/29/26 at 6:24 pm to
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Updated.


Not sure you know what this word means.
Posted by Uga Alum
Member since Jul 2022
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Posted on 6/29/26 at 6:24 pm to
In my OP, friend.
Posted by DrewTheEngineer
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Member since Jun 2006
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Posted on 6/29/26 at 6:25 pm to
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This post was edited on 6/29/26 at 6:25 pm
Posted by Outboard
BR
Member since Jul 2015
239 posts
Posted on 6/29/26 at 6:42 pm to
Your boss already turned you down for a raise. If you have done the research and like the new firm. Walk in tomorrow and turn in your 2 weeks. When they ask why tell them you have a better offer. When they ask how much do not comment. If they do not offer you more than the new offer walk. My humble opinion. Like they told you but really did not tell you it is business. You are making a business decision that is all it is. It is up to them to know what the market rate for your position is and if they are not willing to pay that then move on. Somebody above you at your current firm is making bank because you are underpaid and laughing all the way to the bank. Good Luck!
Posted by GetmorewithLes
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Member since Jan 2011
23117 posts
Posted on 6/29/26 at 6:45 pm to
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"I was given an unsolicited offer at another company for X amount. I really like working here, but this is a material difference in pay and my family and I have to consider it. Would you be willing to offer me a raise?"


This is not a bad thought train but you cannot do that if you do not have the other job in hand. If you whiff the other job while asking for a raise based on the other offer you are toast.
Posted by chRxis
None of your fricking business
Member since Feb 2008
28046 posts
Posted on 6/29/26 at 6:48 pm to
quote:

not expecting my current firm will match

no fricking shite...

bruh, they got you doing the job for $50K less than you should be getting, i'm sure they can find another just like you to do the same if you leave...
Posted by kengel2
Team Gun
Member since Mar 2004
33798 posts
Posted on 6/29/26 at 6:49 pm to
quote:

Received an offer for approximately $50k higher base salary than my current job.


Unless youre making like $500k, I dont know why you havent left yet.
Posted by Uga Alum
Member since Jul 2022
6692 posts
Posted on 6/29/26 at 7:04 pm to
Yeah man, I’ve made the decision to accept the offer and wait for all the conflict stuff to clear. Then I will give my two weeks.
Posted by armytiger96
Member since Sep 2007
2744 posts
Posted on 6/29/26 at 7:29 pm to
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I went to my boss mid year and asked for more money. He said that he could not accommodate me at that time. Got this offer for significantly more. Seems like a good firm. Going to go into it not expecting my current firm will match and see what happens.


I had this same experience when I was mid career. A friend called with an opportunity that was a 30% increase over my pay. I accepted the offer and turned in my notice. I was "friends" with one of owners and he asked if he could counter. I mentioned he could try but it will be a 30% increase and if you do counter my next question is if I wasn't worth that to you yesterday what changed today that makes me worth that tomorrow. He wished me luck at my next job.

As others have mentioned giving companies an ultimatum doesn't typically work out in the long run. You will be better off leaving and coming back if it doesn't work out as expected at your new job rather than staying after they match.
Posted by JohnnyKilroy
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Member since Oct 2012
41467 posts
Posted on 6/29/26 at 7:37 pm to
quote:

I mentioned he could try but it will be a 30% increase and if you do counter my next question is if I wasn't worth that to you yesterday what changed today that makes me worth that tomorrow


This is the problem with offering your current company to match.

Because if you’re doing X, and new company says we’ll pay you however much more to do X, then your existing employer is gonna want a lot more than X out of you if they match and retain you.


Posted by TheWalrus
Land of the Hogs
Member since Dec 2012
47770 posts
Posted on 6/29/26 at 7:44 pm to
Notice he refuses to answer simple questions like this
Posted by Uga Alum
Member since Jul 2022
6692 posts
Posted on 6/29/26 at 8:14 pm to
I’m not going to tell you how much money I make.
Posted by cgrand
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Member since Oct 2009
49911 posts
Posted on 6/29/26 at 8:19 pm to
nobody made you start this thread nor disclose the “$50,000 raise offer”. You did ask for advice though but you already knew 50 large is a lot of money to most people and that in a vacuum only an extremely high earner would turn that down. You also knew that your current employer already told you no raise.

So what was the point of this?
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