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My company counter offered and I took it. Did I frick up?
Posted on 1/24/19 at 4:36 pm
Posted on 1/24/19 at 4:36 pm
I have never heard of this particular thing happening so I figured I'd share to see what the board's opinion was. This is long, so TLDR, etc etc
I'm a project manager and our PM dept is very small, about 4 people (I'm the only American), plus our boss. Business has been slow the last few years and there is some reorganization. Let me preface this by saying I actually like my boss, and love working at my company. I get along well with 95% of the people, enjoy the work, can work from home if I need, etc etc etc. It's basically a dream job for me most days.
- About 6 months ago, my boss was let go. I really liked the guy. A new guy came in, and we could all sense that he wasn't as communicative with our group as the old boss had been. Alarm bells go off with all of us that something is likely to happen further.
- I'm the only one of us co-located with our boss. Over the course of a few months, he let's me know that our group is being restructured and some additional tasks are being added. I'm strongly hinted at that I'm safe. I tell him that in that case, I think if there are additional tasks, there should be a salary bump to go with it. He agrees and says he will talk with our HR dept to lobby for a higher wage.
- Early December our group is informed that we are laid off, our dept is changing, the new dept is under the same boss, but the jobs are a bit different, different projects, a larger scope, and so on. I did not realize we would be laid off in the process of this, and while re-applying for my 'new job', I decide that it is prudent to send out applications to other companies in the event that while my boss likes me, someone else higher up does not. I find out later this is not the case, but we will get to that.
- I express some concern to my boss that I feel like I am in limbo over the holidays; he has told me I am the 1st pick for the 'new' position, but I am still uneasy. He goes to some length to get HR to expedite the process of interviews and approval, I get my offer letter for about 1/3 of the increase that I told him I should deserve. I negotiate with him and the HR manager and bring it up to about 2/3 of what I asked, and I sign the offer before the holidays. Even though I signed the offer, people who I've worked with as colleagues interviewing me for essentially the same job was pretty humiliating even though they weren't dicks about it.
- At the same time, a second (and later a 3rd) company contacts me, and goes through a few phone interviews. I interview well, and in january after everyone gets back from the holidays, they bring me in for an in person interview. I click immediately with the leadership and they offer me a week later, mid jan.
- They offered me around what I first asked my boss for, and I tell them "look guys, during this process, my company gave me a raise that makes this amount not appealing to me." The recruiter seemed upset, and asked me what it would take for me to jump now. I told her what I felt like was a reasonable amount more than what we'd talked about, and a few hours later she called back and said "fine, we can do that." They also provided me a relocation bonus, which on the offer letter was listed as a 'signing bonus'.
- My wife and I discuss it and decide ok, we will make the jump. The money was better, and I was (and still am) worried about my current company's and market sector's future. Business is not great and has been stagnant for a while in our sector.
- So I tell my boss I'm sorry, I love the team, love the company, etc etc but I have to jump, the money is better, and when they laid me off, I couldn't NOT send out applications. Looking back, the money wasn't eye popping, but I was still feeling the sting. He was surprised, to say the least.
- He calls back in about 15 minutes, and asks to counter offer. I said, sure, why not. I gave him a number that again, I felt was reasonably larger than the number that the new company gave me. The end result would have been around 25% more than my salary 3 months previous. 24 hours later (he was in Asia at the time) I get a call from our HR manager saying hey cokebottle, the number you quoted to Chris is on this new offer letter, please take a look and sign it if it looks alright.
- My wife and I again debate and decide to take the counter.
- After I took the counter offer and signed it, I got a call from our VP, saying everyone loves me, I am valued, they think I have a bright future, is there anything else he can do, etc etc. Apparently my resignation set off a fire drill in the company and all the way up to the senior VP of ops essentially said 'give cokebottle whatever he wants to get him to stay.'
He asked me why I considered leaving, and I said "well, Rob, you did fire me." "yeah, I guess we did. That does make sense, I just want to make sure we're good now'. I told him yes, and that was the end of the conversation.
That was a few weeks ago, and currently I'm doing just fine. I don't feel any alarm bells.
So OT, did I frick up?
I'm a project manager and our PM dept is very small, about 4 people (I'm the only American), plus our boss. Business has been slow the last few years and there is some reorganization. Let me preface this by saying I actually like my boss, and love working at my company. I get along well with 95% of the people, enjoy the work, can work from home if I need, etc etc etc. It's basically a dream job for me most days.
- About 6 months ago, my boss was let go. I really liked the guy. A new guy came in, and we could all sense that he wasn't as communicative with our group as the old boss had been. Alarm bells go off with all of us that something is likely to happen further.
- I'm the only one of us co-located with our boss. Over the course of a few months, he let's me know that our group is being restructured and some additional tasks are being added. I'm strongly hinted at that I'm safe. I tell him that in that case, I think if there are additional tasks, there should be a salary bump to go with it. He agrees and says he will talk with our HR dept to lobby for a higher wage.
- Early December our group is informed that we are laid off, our dept is changing, the new dept is under the same boss, but the jobs are a bit different, different projects, a larger scope, and so on. I did not realize we would be laid off in the process of this, and while re-applying for my 'new job', I decide that it is prudent to send out applications to other companies in the event that while my boss likes me, someone else higher up does not. I find out later this is not the case, but we will get to that.
- I express some concern to my boss that I feel like I am in limbo over the holidays; he has told me I am the 1st pick for the 'new' position, but I am still uneasy. He goes to some length to get HR to expedite the process of interviews and approval, I get my offer letter for about 1/3 of the increase that I told him I should deserve. I negotiate with him and the HR manager and bring it up to about 2/3 of what I asked, and I sign the offer before the holidays. Even though I signed the offer, people who I've worked with as colleagues interviewing me for essentially the same job was pretty humiliating even though they weren't dicks about it.
- At the same time, a second (and later a 3rd) company contacts me, and goes through a few phone interviews. I interview well, and in january after everyone gets back from the holidays, they bring me in for an in person interview. I click immediately with the leadership and they offer me a week later, mid jan.
- They offered me around what I first asked my boss for, and I tell them "look guys, during this process, my company gave me a raise that makes this amount not appealing to me." The recruiter seemed upset, and asked me what it would take for me to jump now. I told her what I felt like was a reasonable amount more than what we'd talked about, and a few hours later she called back and said "fine, we can do that." They also provided me a relocation bonus, which on the offer letter was listed as a 'signing bonus'.
- My wife and I discuss it and decide ok, we will make the jump. The money was better, and I was (and still am) worried about my current company's and market sector's future. Business is not great and has been stagnant for a while in our sector.
- So I tell my boss I'm sorry, I love the team, love the company, etc etc but I have to jump, the money is better, and when they laid me off, I couldn't NOT send out applications. Looking back, the money wasn't eye popping, but I was still feeling the sting. He was surprised, to say the least.
- He calls back in about 15 minutes, and asks to counter offer. I said, sure, why not. I gave him a number that again, I felt was reasonably larger than the number that the new company gave me. The end result would have been around 25% more than my salary 3 months previous. 24 hours later (he was in Asia at the time) I get a call from our HR manager saying hey cokebottle, the number you quoted to Chris is on this new offer letter, please take a look and sign it if it looks alright.
- My wife and I again debate and decide to take the counter.
- After I took the counter offer and signed it, I got a call from our VP, saying everyone loves me, I am valued, they think I have a bright future, is there anything else he can do, etc etc. Apparently my resignation set off a fire drill in the company and all the way up to the senior VP of ops essentially said 'give cokebottle whatever he wants to get him to stay.'
He asked me why I considered leaving, and I said "well, Rob, you did fire me." "yeah, I guess we did. That does make sense, I just want to make sure we're good now'. I told him yes, and that was the end of the conversation.
That was a few weeks ago, and currently I'm doing just fine. I don't feel any alarm bells.
So OT, did I frick up?
Posted on 1/24/19 at 4:38 pm to cokebottleag
No way in frick am I reading that monolith of text.
This post was edited on 1/24/19 at 4:38 pm
Posted on 1/24/19 at 4:38 pm to cokebottleag
quote:
I have never heard of this particular thing happening
Way too long to read but companies certainly counter all the time
This post was edited on 1/24/19 at 4:39 pm
Posted on 1/24/19 at 4:38 pm to cokebottleag
quote:
This is long
That's what she said
Posted on 1/24/19 at 4:39 pm to cokebottleag
Prayers sent. If they laid you off once they will lay you off again baw.
Posted on 1/24/19 at 4:39 pm to cokebottleag
quote:
So OT, did I frick up?
quote:
Texas A&M Fan
No doubt
Posted on 1/24/19 at 4:39 pm to cokebottleag
quote:If you have to ask, you probably did.
So OT, did I frick up?
Posted on 1/24/19 at 4:39 pm to cokebottleag
quote:yes, you didnt post pics of wife
So OT, did I frick up?
Posted on 1/24/19 at 4:40 pm to cokebottleag
quote:
So OT, did I frick up?
Unless you think your company is completely fricked, no. You got a 25% raise with some additional responsibilities. Sounds about right to me.
Posted on 1/24/19 at 4:40 pm to cokebottleag
As much as I'd like to help you my man, which is why I tend to be here often enough, to help other people, nobody nor myself is gonna read any of this shite.
Posted on 1/24/19 at 4:42 pm to A Menace to Sobriety
quote:
nobody nor myself is gonna read any of this shite.
Christ Alive. Some of y'all do TL;DR responses to shite that takes all of 90 seconds to read.
Posted on 1/24/19 at 4:42 pm to cokebottleag
I think you May be looking too deep into the lay off.
They aren’t giving you a significant raise and jumping through hoops to get you to stay for their entertainment.
They aren’t giving you a significant raise and jumping through hoops to get you to stay for their entertainment.
Posted on 1/24/19 at 4:43 pm to cokebottleag
That whole post was just to brag that you got a 25% raise. You could have made it a lot shorter.
Posted on 1/24/19 at 4:43 pm to cokebottleag
quote:
Apparently my resignation set off a fire drill in the company and all the way up to the senior VP of ops essentially said 'give cokebottle whatever he wants to get him to stay.'
It took 5000 words to get to your end brag.
Shame on me for reading all of that.
This post was edited on 1/24/19 at 4:44 pm
Posted on 1/24/19 at 4:43 pm to cokebottleag
TL:DR
You did frick up because you mentioned the wife and shared no pics.
You did frick up because you mentioned the wife and shared no pics.
Posted on 1/24/19 at 4:44 pm to cokebottleag
Generally, I've been told it's not good to accept the old job's counter offer. I have moved on from old employers three times in the passed 10 years after rejecting what I thought were decent counter offers. I hope it works out for you though 
Posted on 1/24/19 at 4:44 pm to cokebottleag
I think you made the right move and you handled it very well.
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