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re: Mother upset about response time for sons wreck
Posted on 9/4/24 at 12:54 pm to jcaz
Posted on 9/4/24 at 12:54 pm to jcaz
Doesn't LA have a rule that if you're responsible for some portion on the liability, such as a wreck in which you were drunk driving, you can't claim that the other party is responsible for the damages that result?
For example, in Alabama you can't jaywalk on the highway and then expect to win a lawsuit against someone who was following all motor vehicle laws when you walked into the path of their vehicle and became injured. Not a lawyer, so I might have mischaracterized that, but I had a lawyer friend explain something along those lines once.
For example, in Alabama you can't jaywalk on the highway and then expect to win a lawsuit against someone who was following all motor vehicle laws when you walked into the path of their vehicle and became injured. Not a lawyer, so I might have mischaracterized that, but I had a lawyer friend explain something along those lines once.
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Posted on 9/4/24 at 12:58 pm to Keith13
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we were told the Sheriff's Office does not track units via GPS.
This was an interesting comment by the EBRSO. I find it hard to believe that a metropolitan sheriff's office does not have GPS in their police cruisers.
Posted on 9/4/24 at 1:04 pm to LSUGrrrl
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I don’t know. Maybe she can make something good out of her son dying from drunk driving. No 911 call should take 30 minutes for a response unless it’s in an extremely rural area. Her pushing this might save lives later.
I lost my Son 5 years ago, blood clots in his lungs, I feel Mom's pain, no parent should have to live through that. The plain truth is that the kid put the bottle to his head and pulled the trigger, is it too late to for something good to come from this, don't know, but just maybe Mom could have headed this off long ago.
Posted on 9/4/24 at 1:07 pm to Keith13
If my phone fails 911 it may come up Dallas or Virginia. Those seem to be where the VPN connects. Then it may not work that way at all.
Posted on 9/4/24 at 1:08 pm to jcaz
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Wait so cars just passed and didn’t stop? wtf man
Eventually someone else saw the wreck, pulled over, and called 911. That call was something like 7 minutes before the deputy showed up at the scene.
After watching the WBRZ report and listening to the calls, the delay sounds like exactly what EBRSO said - they treated it like a 911 hang-up, and under their policy hang-ups are not classified as emergencies.
From the 911 operator’s POV, they received an automated call saying a Ford vehicle had been in a wreck. They pressed the button to speak with the occupant and got no response. Can I see how the mother feels like they should have treated that as an emergency? Sure.
However, I wouldn’t expect the 911 operator to know exactly how every single automated 911 system works. I can also understand EBRSO’s policy if they indeed had 26 emergencies out of 15,000 hang-ups last year.
Posted on 9/4/24 at 1:15 pm to Keith13
She tryna get PaAaAaAaAID!!!!
Posted on 9/4/24 at 1:18 pm to Keith13
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Is she attempting to fix or possibly attack the technology or is she after shifting the blame from her son onto first responders?
Likely the first as that’s a pretty slow response in a field where seconds matter
But if it is just pointing fingers, so be it. I should be so blessed as to never lose a child and have to try to be rational in the face of irrational grief
Posted on 9/4/24 at 1:29 pm to jcaz
quote:Yeah - there was nothing a faster response could have done for him or his family.
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113 mph
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He was dead on impact. Response times be damned.
Any lawsuit against anyone other than who sold him the liquor is not warranted.
Posted on 9/4/24 at 2:02 pm to Motorboat
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I can guarantee you the Parish ain't paying shite for that claim.
We are talking about EBR here, it depends on who they know.
Posted on 9/4/24 at 2:51 pm to LSUGrrrl
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No 911 call should take 30 minutes for a response
Are you sure about this? There are a finite amount of police and EMS units in a city. Fender bender at Walmart. Boyfriend took girlfriend's phone and won't give it back. 30 yr old male has been throwing up for 15 mins and wants an ambulance. Kids playing on the phone call 911 and hang up from a physical address. As stated, calls are prioritized. An mva with unknown injuries does not get the highest priority. If it's an automated call from an estimated address they aren't running hot, lights and sirens.
Posted on 9/4/24 at 2:54 pm to NoSaint
Shifting blame in an attempt to get money is just ugly. I'm sure she is grieving and looking for some meaning or retribution to ease the pain but this is a situation of unclean hands. It'll be hard to blame anyone when he was breaking two laws that put others at risk. He hit so hard he was mostly incapacitated if not killed therefore he was unable to help himself which is a sad story but not one where others can be deemed as acting incorrectly
Posted on 9/4/24 at 3:03 pm to Giantkiller
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The city received an emergency call. The city knows what generated the emergency call.
IPhone has a crash detection feature. Drop your phone and it might send an automated crash detection to 911. Bump your Apple watch and same thing. These calls are investigated but responders can't go hot to every one of the automated calls, there just aren't enough resources and most, by far, are false alarms. Running hot puts responders and citizens in danger. If there isn't a confirmed emergency it will be given a lower response priority.
Posted on 9/4/24 at 3:20 pm to Giantkiller
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Municipalities should be responsible for their response times
keeping their funding depends on them. someone will probably lose their job over this
Posted on 9/4/24 at 3:32 pm to OU812ME2
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. I'd be curious to see how many false messages they get from all these gadgets that dial 911.
This is what I'm wondering about. All things considered I don't feel it too long. Wouldn't have mattered anyway.
Posted on 9/4/24 at 4:52 pm to Keith13
If she taught him how to drive i can understand why she thinks the response was slow.
Posted on 9/4/24 at 5:03 pm to Adajax
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Drop your phone and it might send an automated crash detection to 911. Bump your Apple watch and same thing.
I don’t think that’s how it works. I’m pretty sure the accelerometer has to record a sudden and drastic deceleration.
I guess if you drop your phone out the window of a moving car, that could do it.
Posted on 9/4/24 at 5:05 pm to Dadren
That is how it works.
Posted on 9/4/24 at 5:11 pm to OU812ME2
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I'd be curious to see how many false messages they get from all these gadgets that dial 911.
When I was in LE we would get a couple a week for “iPhone crash detection” and it was 9/10 somebody brakes hard and their phone fell on the floor board. Nobody would ever be in the area that “crash” happened. I don’t think I ever actually found someone that had a legit crash.
Onstar was different, but their locations weren’t always accurate.
Posted on 9/4/24 at 5:16 pm to OysterPoBoy
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He died.
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The kid was legally drunk doing 113mph
Whelp, play stupid games, win stupid prizes.
Posted on 9/4/24 at 5:21 pm to georgia
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keeping their funding depends on them. someone will probably lose their job over this
I would sure hope not. The police could’ve been there in 10 seconds and likely not have been able to help someone who hit a tree line going 87mph
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