re: Michigan State Shooting: Shooter dead, At Least 3 victims dead, 5 wounded

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You are grossly uneducated and naive. Sad that a so-called gun owner can be so stupid and unaware of the relevant history.

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He's not a gun owner. Progs just lie using false qualifiers to make them seem like normal human beings.

RIP, too soon for these three.

It hits hard when you hear about young men or women senselessly murdered. It hits another level when you see their pics.

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for mass casualty events they should have body cams that feed gps w/WAAS to live maps on tablets with unique logins for each event. At a minimum, bare bones, dispatch and site commander should have access. Preferably all.

It can't hurt to make it public. Perp knows they are coming, perp knows what they look like. When they zero in can turn off the gps feed and go invisible for the final bum rush.

* snipers always off

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Or maybe just wear some item of clothing that makes it obvious they are cops...

"Nah. Lets spend millions on shite that will likely never be used in our town."

So this guy had prior weapons charges and wasn't legally able to possess a firearm- yet the usual suspects want new gun laws that make it tougher for the rest of us to access guns through legal channels.

No small coincidence these are the same people who call for lighter sentences and early release for offenders- the very reason why we have repeat offenders roaming the streets ready to carry out more violence.

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So this guy had prior weapons charges and wasn't legally able to possess a firearm- yet the usual suspects want new gun laws that make it tougher for the rest of us to access guns through legal channels.

No small coincidence these are the same people who call for lighter sentences and early release for offenders- the very reason why we have repeat offenders roaming the streets ready to carry out more violence.

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I'm not a conspiracy theorist, but there are times I suspect some of the motive on these shootings are a political effect, like banning guns.

And keep in mind, these guys are deranged. It doesn't have to be an official DNC policy, just a nutcase trying to be a martyr for "the cause".

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I'm not a conspiracy theorist, but there are times I suspect some of the motive on these shootings are a political effect, like banning guns.

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But I think the most realistic and plausible explanation is there is no need to actually have this political motive when there are plenty of opportunities and disturbed individuals to attack regardless of motive to just wait until one happens and then bring in politics after the fact.

Honestly though some of the examples that have made me rethink our policies, aren’t even the ones where policy is a major discussion at all.

A recent example from last December is the father from Utah, an insurance salesman who was well-respected in the community (and the Mormon church community) who after his wife filed divorced, murdered his wife, mother-in-law, 2 sons (4 and 7), and 3 daughters (7, 12, and 17), before killing himself.

And what got me rethinking things after that is the idea that gun reforms would only leave the criminals with guns, not the law-abiding citizens. But in this case, up until he murdered his entire family, he would have been perceived as the law-abiding citizen with a gun, but apparently what the perceptions were did not match reality, which is why his wife was filing for divorce, then he snapped and revealed this to everyone after it was too late, and 8 people are dead, including 5 children.

And the other thing that has stood out to me is how closely related murder rates are too gun ownership, even after (or maybe especially after) controlling for sociopath-economics and overall development. We’re just the huge outlier on all metrics. We’re the richest, most powerful, and most successful nation in global history, our poorest states are richer than some of the richest European countries, yet we not only have a ridiculously high murder rate but gun ownership rates as well. And that’s not even including suicides which guns make far more easier to successfully commit, and it looks even worse when we add suicides.

So it’s hard not to see that our inexcusably high murder rate is not significantly impacted by our unusually high gun ownership rates. That said, I’m not sure what policy solution would adequately address this, because it feels like we might be at a point of no return, even if we amended the constitution.

Regardless, if there is an actually effective solution, I can’t see it not including limiting accessibility to guns, so while I don’t support any reforms that are just thrown out there “because we have to do something,” regardless of their effectiveness, but I still think we have to search for an effective solution.

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While limiting access to guns would probably help in the long run

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How? You will never round up all the guns already out there, and the only people you'll get guns from are the people that aren't breaking the law anyway. So then you just have an even worse situation than you do now.

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I still think we have to search for an effective solution

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I have a radical solution that would cut gun violence as well as violent crimes in half. But I don't want to get banned.