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Someone else posted, he does appear to work.
You want to work somewhere you feel has a plan to make you better, and didn't seem to get the impression that would be the case.
You want to work somewhere you feel has a plan to make you better, and didn't seem to get the impression that would be the case.
I can see both sides.
I don't fault Lagway on his reaction. Dude has tools and was highly recruited, and has had moments. My impression is he was flailing around trying to figure it out by himself out there, and wanted to hear how the new system would help. And what he heard wasn't "we have a plan to develop qbs", it was "are you ready to work".
My understanding is the dude works, he wasn't being developed
I don't fault Lagway on his reaction. Dude has tools and was highly recruited, and has had moments. My impression is he was flailing around trying to figure it out by himself out there, and wanted to hear how the new system would help. And what he heard wasn't "we have a plan to develop qbs", it was "are you ready to work".
My understanding is the dude works, he wasn't being developed
re: Why do WRs get injured just landing now?
Posted by Scoob on 12/15/25 at 12:11 pm to Bunk Moreland
quote:No, it's just recency bias- you see people getting injured and say "wow it's happening a lot right now".
The non-contact achilles and ACL injuries seem worse than ever.
It's always happened, which is why people say non-contact injuries are bad news.
I'm an LSU fan old enough to remember Wendell Davis, great WR from the 80's (Hodson years). NFL career was fricked when he blew his knees out in Philly. Was the turf, not contact.
Bobby Hebert in the Saints postgame show talked about Jamal Anderson, former Falcons RB. He went down on a cut, blew his knee up.
The issue is these guys are elite athletes pushing to the max, and their bodies aren't 19 anymore.
quote:idiot :lol:quote:
Look he has a better roster than what Kelly had when Kelly took over the LSU football program. Kelly did leave a much desired roster for Lame Kiffin. I still think he will ended up failing to make the playoffs.
OK...so how do you say Kiffin will have a better roster when Kelly inherited a Heisman trophy winner in Jayden Daniels? You think Kiffin will have a Heisman trophy winner in his first 2 years?
Kelly didn't inherit Daniels, he inherited Nussmeier. He pulled Daniels from Arizona State in the portal, which I give him credit for.
As for the original question- will Kiffin have a better first 2 years, and the overall question of will Kiffin succeed at LSU... those can be 2 different things.
Kelly went 9-3 his first 2 years, with a trip to Atlanta in yr 1, and had a Heisman winner in year 2. Won both bowls, so 10 win seasons. Record-wise, it's a pretty high bar to surpass. I wouldn't be shocked if Lane doesn't do better on the record; but I do think he will build something more cohesive and consistent. I don't think we'll see a unit constantly fall apart and have to be fixed, like under Kelly. Kelly had a solid defense year one and an offense that was anemic. He got the offense going, and the defense fell apart. I don't think that Kiffin will have that issue.
As for
quote:I don't expect it, but wouldn't be stunned either. Kiffin's QBs play very well, no matter who they are. If LSU is a strong playoff contender, I fully expect his QB to be in the Heisman race.
You think Kiffin will have a Heisman trophy winner in his first 2 years?
2011, and any other answer is just an exercise in mental gymnastics.
For example, someone stated if LSU beat Ole Miss in 1969 they'd be undefeated and would play for a national championship.
Ok, you can play for one.
vs
2011, we WERE undefeated, and we WERE playing for a national championship. No could have, or likely have, etc. Winner of that game gets the trophy, they ARE the champ. And if that's 2011 LSU, having beat the winners of the Rose, Orange and Cotton bowls (in addition to UGA in the SEC championship, and Alabama in what would have been twice), that team is likely considered the greatest of all time. The 2011 regular season was more impressive than the 2019 regular season.
edit to add:
for those who argue that winning in 2011 somehow negates 2019 from happening, just consider- Joe Burrow left Ohio State. He wasn't lured away by Orgeron, he left because he wasn't going to start.
Nebraska turned him down publicly.
His options were Cincinnati, a mid-major that hadn't made the playoffs yet, or
LSU, a perennial power that was loaded everywhere except QB, and Miles had recently started transfers Mettenberger and Etling.
He almost certainly chooses LSU anyway.
For example, someone stated if LSU beat Ole Miss in 1969 they'd be undefeated and would play for a national championship.
Ok, you can play for one.
vs
2011, we WERE undefeated, and we WERE playing for a national championship. No could have, or likely have, etc. Winner of that game gets the trophy, they ARE the champ. And if that's 2011 LSU, having beat the winners of the Rose, Orange and Cotton bowls (in addition to UGA in the SEC championship, and Alabama in what would have been twice), that team is likely considered the greatest of all time. The 2011 regular season was more impressive than the 2019 regular season.
edit to add:
for those who argue that winning in 2011 somehow negates 2019 from happening, just consider- Joe Burrow left Ohio State. He wasn't lured away by Orgeron, he left because he wasn't going to start.
Nebraska turned him down publicly.
His options were Cincinnati, a mid-major that hadn't made the playoffs yet, or
LSU, a perennial power that was loaded everywhere except QB, and Miles had recently started transfers Mettenberger and Etling.
He almost certainly chooses LSU anyway.
re: Brown University shooter identified Update: (Has been released)
Posted by Scoob on 12/14/25 at 11:45 pm to SallysHuman
Who cares about how you spell Muslim/Moslem etc.
The bigger picture is the gross incompetence on display here tonight.
You have a "person of interest" that you publicly reveal and give all sorts of info about... and then you release him. You have either:
A) completely destroyed an innocent man's life by openly linking him to this shooting, or
B) are letting the suspected mass murderer walk, after taking him in.
Both are terrible prospects.
The bigger picture is the gross incompetence on display here tonight.
You have a "person of interest" that you publicly reveal and give all sorts of info about... and then you release him. You have either:
A) completely destroyed an innocent man's life by openly linking him to this shooting, or
B) are letting the suspected mass murderer walk, after taking him in.
Both are terrible prospects.
re: What was the game we kicked off both halves?
Posted by Scoob on 12/14/25 at 11:00 pm to go ta hell ole miss
quote:quote:
Officials should not have let this happen.
Why? You should be expected to know the rules. If the other team defers to make their decision til the second half then you better choose the ball.Otherwise, you are going to give them the ball twice. It is a simple rule that everyone should know.
And alternatively, there could be other reasons too.
It's hard to fathom in this era of football where offenses are so potent, but go back to the Saban/early Miles years. Phenomenal defenses paired with conservative running offenses.
Hypothetically, you kick off, force a quick 3 and out, get the ball around the 40 or even midfield if you get a short punt or a decent return. That way, a 30 yd drive could get you a field goal.
Go back and look at the "game of the century" between LSU and Bama, that we won 9-6 in OT. Both teams were comfortable with letting the other team have the ball around the 20, because nobody was going to drive. It took major effort just to flip the field that game.
re: What was the game we kicked off both halves?
Posted by Scoob on 12/14/25 at 10:52 pm to xGeauxLSUx
quote:quote:
Sarcasm?
No sarcasm needed. It’s not possible to kickoff to start both halves….unless every person in the stadium is retarded and somehow misses the fact that your team kicked off to start the 1st quarter.
It happened to LSU.
What happened was that we won the toss, and the captain elected to "kick the ball" instead of deferring.
If you defer, the other team gets to decide, and they 99.9% choose to receive; hence you kick off.
If you choose to kick, you've made your decision and the other team gets to decide on the 2nd half. They then choose to receive... which means you kick off both halves.
re: Is Walmart+ the best subscription service?
Posted by Scoob on 12/14/25 at 10:05 pm to CaptainsWafer
quote:10 cents off a gallon.
ETA I think you also get a discount on gas at Walmart affiliated gas stations.
Walmart, Murphy's, and Exxon.
I use it at the Murphy's, which is both the cheapest gas near me, and they have ethanol-free. I have 3 vehicles and that really adds up.
Same day deliveries is fricking great. For casual convenience is one thing...
the real deal is when you are sick as a dog.
Our moment of truth was one day my son texted me just after 7a that he woke up with a bad stomach bug. Vomiting, diarrhea, head pounding. I had an order of peptobismol, immodium, toilet paper, gatorade and soup delivered- came before 10am. I was at work and he was home alone, and to this day admits he wouldn't have risked driving anywhere in that shape.
I now see they will do prescription meds free delivery too.
You can't beat that. And for people that say they don't trust their walmart... I can choose from 2 big Walmarts, and one of their neighborhood markets. Try changing your primary store, see if you get one you'd prefer.
quote:To be fair, Kelly spent over a decade at Notre Dame. That's 2-3 games a year, tops, that you have to focus and get up for, another 3-4 that you win unless you totally shite the bed, and then 6 where you could shite the bed and still win.
Miles wasnt ever lazy
O wasnt lazy until 2020
BK was lazy the day he got to lsu
Doing that as a routine will ruin your effort and pacing. Freeman legit needs to get out of there before it ruins him too.
quote:He didn't fit in, and had a bad year; what did he do to become toxic? The "you're spoiled" comment?
No larger program is hiring BK. He's proven himself toxic.
The lawyering up when LSU started playing games about maybe trying to fire him for cause?
quote:
Besides, if you can't win at LSU then you can't coach.
10 wins and made the SEC title game yr 1.
10 wins and a Heisman QB yr 2.
9 wins yr 3.
Was 5-3 when he was fired; those 3 losses were to Vandy, Ole Miss and A&M. But that's not as bad as you might think:
Vandy, 10-2, 1 score loss on the road.
Ole Miss, 11-1 and playoff, 1 score loss on the road.
A&M, yeah it was a bad home loss, but: 11-1 and playoff, and you led at the half.
Hell, for that matter, team had 2 more losses after he left; road games at 2 more playoff teams. 1 score game at Oklahoma, and then honestly better than usual at Alabama.
It's not like Kelly had LSU in awful shape, we just demand to be better than 'decent'.
quote:3 Musketeers I believe
I liked that show. has she done anything else? yes she was so fine in that show.
re: How did Michigan fail so epically in vetting Moore?
Posted by Scoob on 12/12/25 at 11:51 am to Jugular Joe
Beyond the outrage... wasn't he their DC under Harbaugh?
Didn't they just win a natty based on the defense?
I'd think the idea was that you continue that hard physical style of play, which gave Ohio State fits.
As for vetting the guy, there's nothing wrong with a guy being straight and liking to look at attractive women, as long as he can do his job.
Didn't they just win a natty based on the defense?
I'd think the idea was that you continue that hard physical style of play, which gave Ohio State fits.
As for vetting the guy, there's nothing wrong with a guy being straight and liking to look at attractive women, as long as he can do his job.
re: There are too many automatic first down penalties in the NFL
Posted by Scoob on 12/12/25 at 11:45 am to cubsfan5150
quote:Off-topic, but that tripping penalty in the Falcons/Bucs game was a good move by the defender (he also got a facemask call). The Falcons RB walks into the endzone otherwise.
There’s little reason that holding or tripping should be an auto first
If I'm a defender and it's first and goal, and you give up an auto-first (and half the distance, so maybe 2-3 yds) to prevent a TD, I do that every time.
Not sure if you're serious or trolling, but I actually agree with you.
Kelly would reset the locker room and get that program stable in a way they badly need right now. Go a couple years and then try to get someone to take them the final step, as LSU just did.
If they mess around, that program could crater
Kelly would reset the locker room and get that program stable in a way they badly need right now. Go a couple years and then try to get someone to take them the final step, as LSU just did.
If they mess around, that program could crater
quote:You're looking through purple and gold glasses...
Alabama is not a bigger program lol.
Alabama is the most successful program in the SEC. They have longterm history, recent and current success unrivaled in college football, and certainly within the SEC.
Financially they are "enough", they don't have Texas money but they have enough to win in sports. They have the infrastructure within the program and a well-oiled booster system. They continue to pump in the recruits, their classes remain higher than ours. They are the benchmark in the conference.
Since 2000, which is when LSU has been at it's best, they've beat us 15 times to our 11 wins. We've had 4 double-digit wins, they've had 11. We've had 2 "greatest team of all time" candidates, in 2011 and 2019. In 2011, we won in OT after they missed 3 FGs in regulation, and then they beat us in the rematch by 21. In 2019, the team we widely hail as the greatest, we won by 5 after they outscored us 28-13 in the second half, and they had an onside kick attempt that could have given them the ball with a chance to win.
Overall, they beat us way more often than we beat Ole Miss, a program we have no doubt we're superior to. Alabama has beat us 13 of the last 15 games, and our last 4 wins have been OT (twice), 5 pts, and 3 pts.
I love LSU and am an alumni, but I'm not going to lie and say we're equal.
The only real drawback is right now, they are used to "Saban" level of success, where there's blowback if they aren't #1 in the conference every week, and don't win a national title every other year or so. That's impossible to do, so it's going to be a hot seat for whoever is there.
re: Why fire a coach for an affair?
Posted by Scoob on 12/11/25 at 11:12 am to bamabonners
There's way more than just the affair.
I don't know if "Lack of Institutional Control" is a thing anymore, but if it is, Michigan's program may be in trouble.
As noted in another thread:
There's a whole lot popping up since 2023, in particular.
Sherrone Moore was on Harbaugh's staff prior to taking over, so there wasn't a break or change in things.
As I also noted in a different thread, Michigan has been involved in at least 2 onfield brawls after the games ended in recent yrs, vs Michigan State and vs Ohio State (both 2024). That's the type thing we see posted here on Sports Lite that people laugh at, and potentially get bans :lol:
One is an aberration, 2 or more is disturbing and speaks to team discipline and culture.
This situation currently with Moore isn't just his affair, it's also the arrest too. For example, BRPD didn't need to go arrest Brian Kelly after he was fired to keep him from killing his wife, mistress or himself. He went a got a beer at Superior Grill and moved on with his life.
Like I said, Deboer might be feeling the heat from Alabama fans and boosters right now for not living up to Saban standards, but he isn't going to want to go to Michigan and rebuild that program from the inside out.
I don't know if "Lack of Institutional Control" is a thing anymore, but if it is, Michigan's program may be in trouble.
As noted in another thread:
quote:
Michigan has had 11 staffers either arrested (7) or banned from the sport for rules violations (4) since Jim Harbaugh arrived.
There's a whole lot popping up since 2023, in particular.
Sherrone Moore was on Harbaugh's staff prior to taking over, so there wasn't a break or change in things.
As I also noted in a different thread, Michigan has been involved in at least 2 onfield brawls after the games ended in recent yrs, vs Michigan State and vs Ohio State (both 2024). That's the type thing we see posted here on Sports Lite that people laugh at, and potentially get bans :lol:
One is an aberration, 2 or more is disturbing and speaks to team discipline and culture.
This situation currently with Moore isn't just his affair, it's also the arrest too. For example, BRPD didn't need to go arrest Brian Kelly after he was fired to keep him from killing his wife, mistress or himself. He went a got a beer at Superior Grill and moved on with his life.
Like I said, Deboer might be feeling the heat from Alabama fans and boosters right now for not living up to Saban standards, but he isn't going to want to go to Michigan and rebuild that program from the inside out.
re: Who does Bama go after?
Posted by Scoob on 12/10/25 at 9:34 pm to BamaBravesPackers
Darkhorse candidate- DeMeco Ryans. Doing well with the Texans, but stuck with a playoff/not Super Bowl roster. If Deboer walks, I could see the Tide calling him home.
In this case, I don't think the lack of experience as a college coach would be a big issue; Bama has the machine in place to keep recruits and money flowing, as long as they stay good. And he's a technically sound coach.
In this case, I don't think the lack of experience as a college coach would be a big issue; Bama has the machine in place to keep recruits and money flowing, as long as they stay good. And he's a technically sound coach.
re: If DeBoer leaves I'd pack his bags for him b/c he's not a good coach
Posted by Scoob on 12/10/25 at 9:22 pm to Shaft Williams
I'll say this, as an outside observer-
a few hours ago, I could see Deboer taking the Michigan escape route out of Tuscaloosa. Overall they seemed fairly comparable situations; a premier program with money in one of the major conferences. Either has the potential to win it all, and both are currently not the top in their conference, but not that far out of it.
I thought that Michigan might be more tolerant of adjustments and growing pains, whereas Alabama will howl anytime they're not strongly #1 right now (got used to that under Saban). And frankly, it seemed like UGA under Kirby had reeled in Bama to an extent while Saban was still there, and Texas is pouring money like it's nothing.
But watching the developments, there's a complete shite show going on in Michigan, and I can't see Deboer stepping into THAT.
So, he and Bama might just be stuck with each other.
a few hours ago, I could see Deboer taking the Michigan escape route out of Tuscaloosa. Overall they seemed fairly comparable situations; a premier program with money in one of the major conferences. Either has the potential to win it all, and both are currently not the top in their conference, but not that far out of it.
I thought that Michigan might be more tolerant of adjustments and growing pains, whereas Alabama will howl anytime they're not strongly #1 right now (got used to that under Saban). And frankly, it seemed like UGA under Kirby had reeled in Bama to an extent while Saban was still there, and Texas is pouring money like it's nothing.
But watching the developments, there's a complete shite show going on in Michigan, and I can't see Deboer stepping into THAT.
So, he and Bama might just be stuck with each other.
I wonder how much of that $200M will eventually be NIL money. :lol:
Schools can't directly give money to students for NIL (different than revenue sharing), but they can pay for construction projects, and construction companies can donate to NIL.
Schools can't directly give money to students for NIL (different than revenue sharing), but they can pay for construction projects, and construction companies can donate to NIL.
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