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I lurked for quite awhile before registering, I tend to procrastinate like that :lol:
I was reading this for a few years before I started posting.

I'm excited for football to start up, but honestly it feels more like we're going the right direction with a coach again, and not that we're going to win a title or anything yet. I don't think we're on top of the world like we were a couple decades ago yet. I think that's a couple years away, assuming CFB doesn't self-destruct by then. I'm ready for a head coach to at least give a shite again.

As for basketball, not the slightest clue whether things will be good, or if it all blows up in our faces. Here's hoping we're relevant in that again.
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So, how much impact does the SEC commissioner weighing in have on this?

I see he doesn't approve. That seems like it could be a problem.
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I don’t follow basketball closely but is this the guy everyone said had no chance of being eligible?

I don't know man, I think so.

There's a thread that is supposed to be on basketball recruits, but there's zero information and 150+ pages of bitching and arguing. It needs to be deleted, because it's useless for what it's titled to be.

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Prohibitions: Athletes who have signed explicit major professional contracts (such as NBA or WNBA contracts) are ineligible.



That applies to all athletes who want to play basketball and sign a contract to play in the NBA or WNBA. Note that it does not mention whether they made a team or got paid. As much as I would like Luis to play at LSU, if I recall his situation correctly, I think this ultimately ends up with him being ineligible, as he should.
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Wondering if the TRO yesterday for Pyburn and others has any bearing on this case? Considering those some of those guys also signed pro contracts and want to go back to school

I think it does, as it is addressing guys who specifically signed with the NFL, and are in camp/playing preseason games.
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What if you’re Mississippi State

I assume you keep trying to get to 6 wins :dunno:

In my scenario, I'm talking about the Big 6 or thereabouts; teams that will probably win 8-9 games every year on average. You don't go all in every year, you try to time it; you have a good crop of underclassmen, you then go heavy into the portal. If you don't have a strong base to build on, you hang back on the big names.
*I'm talking about "Big Six" in healthy situations, so Auburn and Florida right now aren't in the mix currently. You could argue LSU isn't, but prior to last year had a run of 8-9 win regular seasons, so solid. And LSU returns a pretty good core- some good corners, a linebacker, some DL, a stud TE and 2 solid backs. That's not a bad group to start with, a few holes to plug (which they did).

A few years from now, once the money guys get tired of paying out every season, you probably need to be close to convince them to pony up again. If you're trying to rebuild, they will likely tell you no, go get a bunch of high school recruits and see if you can develop the core again, then come back and ask for the big portal money.
There's a couple corners on the list. One started at Utah, the other at App State (who was all Sun Belt).
Someone said there's an OL who started at BYU.

Guys like that could come in and at least give you depth
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I do think NIL spending will cool down a bit at some point. But, maybe that's naive.

It's naive :lol:

What may happen is that teams will cycle. Like, LSU goes on a big bender, spends 50-60 mil, and gets a title within 1-2 years. Meanwhile, Alabama and UGA etc sit this out, have solid years. then in a few one of them loads up and does the same thing. Not an unlimited arms race, but instead, you let someone else blow their war chest before you decide to dump yours. Sure, there will still be some teams like A&M spending hand over fist every year (because they desperately want to win one), but I could see some gentlemen's agreements going on in back rooms, with the big money boosters.

That's another problem with NIL; when you're talking about tens of millions a year, per team, ... these guys know each other and that's a lot of money to shell out for no guaranteed return. Collusion would be easy enough, simply by them agreeing not to bankrupt each other. They take turns, which allows 1-2 teams to build a strong roster (challenge the Big 10 team), doesn't drive the market overboard, and if you're holding back now, you get your turn soon enough.
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but it seems like this is just a one time thing for a specific group of players
The problem is, that now sets a precedent.

"Jack Pyburn and Zxvavian Harris got to last year, so I'm suing because it's unfair I don't get to this year. Allowing those guys to come back hindered my progress and earning potential, and I deserve another shot".
Something to that effect.

Go in front of the right judge, and you will get this approved.
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Here's another measuring stick. I know that Sam Leavitt doesn't like to get hit. At ASU vs Miss State and a few others, the more he got rocked, the more his throwing motion changed, and even when feeling pressure, he was throwing to whomever by the end. It's going to take a Kiffin QB whisperer moment to coach that stuff out of him once he starts seeing ghosts.
The weird thing about Kiffin is, it may well not be Leavitt starting at the end of the season.
LSU fans all hope so, for hype purposes.

But Kiffin brought in Longstreet and Clark, a 5 star transfer from USC and an athletic dude from an FCS team. If Leavitt goes sideways, there's every chance Kiffin makes a swap, and the next dude goes off.
Look at Austin Simmons and Trinidad Chambliss last year. You thought Ole Miss was dead, instead they made a nobody into a superstar.

For the record, I don't think Sark could do that.

re: Is Sarkisian a better coach than Kiffin?

Posted by Scoob on 8/20/26 at 2:33 pm to
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Comparison points both at USC and Bama. Both won a NC as OC at Bama but Sark has a better record at USC even while drinking heavily.

I don't think it's a straight comparison, Kiffin actually went 10-2 at USC before the bottom fell out with probation. If that had happened with USC's back-then interest combined with today's NCAA impotence, USC would have said "frick you" and sued, got a complete pass, and built into a monster program again.

Sark was very good at Washington, before USC. But he had some more room to work with, in a less competitive confererence there, than say Kiffin at Tennessee. SEC was insanely tough back then.

From what I can figure out, Kiffin was considered the superior offensive mind while they coached on the same staff, and usually followed Kiffin at jobs, adapting to former Kiffin offenses.

Per google, Sark is considered the better scheme guy, Kiffin the better in-game guy. Sark tends to play safer while Kiffin pushes the bubble.

I don't think Sark could do at Ole Miss what Kiffin did. Conversely, I have never seen Kiffin put any real emphasis on defense; he always seemed to try to win 40-30. Maybe that changes with LSU, as he now has a team capable of recruiting and fielding top defensive groups.
Trying to remember who had what... 86 had a weird mix of guys (and yeah, campus life was awesome back then :lol:)

Maybe Nikita? I don't think it was Derrick's. You had guys who were still on campus, but taking turns being injured/ineligible etc. I don't think anyone got a "better" car than Williams...

Maybe football? Was it Harvey's?
I'm not trolling here, despite this being a troll thread...

As an outside observer (and LSU fan), it's WEIRD to see Bama relegated to 2nd tier consistently.
Y'all did make it to Atlanta last year, props for that. But you weren't supposed to, and the game wasn't competitive. It was supposed to be UGA and Texas, which it was 2 years ago, and is predicted again this year. And y'all had a couple other disappointing losses last year, too. Fla State, and then the beatdown in the playoffs. Granted, you did get revenge for the OU loss by beating them in the playoffs.

I know the stock answer is "we're still ahead of LSU", but that wasn't the bar under Saban. The bar was "we're going to win the SEC and/or the national championship, and frick Dabo and Clemson".

I know as an LSU fan, our base went into rage when we slipped, and we weren't as consistently high as Bama was under Nick, so I do wonder- how are yall handling it?
Satisfied and grateful for the run, willing to coast awhile as long as it doesn't collapse completely? Or are people getting restless and tired of 4 loss seasons and ready to run the dude out of town?
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The first answer I thought of is probably the right answer to this question: Jordan Jefferson.
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His win-loss record and turnover ratio are what they are because he was to slow to read the field resulting in scrambling and check downs

What? I agree Jefferson wasn't a great QB, probably should have played a different position.

But he started 2.5 seasons, and went 24-8.
Freshman: 1-1, including dominant bowl win, in the Jarrett Lee Pick 6 disaster year.
Soph: 8-4, missed a game, 9-4 season
Junior: 11-2, started every game
Senior: 5 game suspension for a bar fight. He went 4-1 as a starter, in a 13-1 season; loss was in the BCS championship. QB was never the factor in those games, so it's safe to say he would have went 13-1 had he started all year.

Dude's W/L record was pretty damn good.
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That may not be hal. 14 alien species can copy humans.

I grew up a big GL fan in the 70s, reading GL/GA. Hal Jordan was my favorite hero, not just lantern or DC hero. Favorite hero.

But I think he's dead in this. And I think it's him in the stands. 14 alien species can copy human anatomy to appear human, that doesn't mean they can mimic a specific person. Just means they don't look like a different species.

Checking for the ring is nothing, as if he's dead the ring will go find another.

This all changes if we learn John is already the chosen replacement in the event Hal dies (hence the training), AND he doesn't have the ring. That would instantly change things to "we know he isn't dead, because the ring is missing".

Now, going back to the interrogation, what was the alien going on about, other than blowing up the town? He did know the oath, he had knowledge of the timeframe to recharge, and a serious disdain for the Corps (and for Earth, too). But obviously not Sinestro himself. I guess a flunkie?

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You’re gonna take a fat fine for some depth pieces? Sounds financially retarded enough for LSU to pursue.

I don't care about this from an LSU perspective.

We've had judges ruling that guys can get extended eligibility (see: Chambliss), now we have someone ruling that a guy who's signed with an NFL team and was in camp can go back to college. Somewhere.

It's an SEC rule, fine. Let's say the Big 10 lets Ohio State or Michigan take these guys in. At that point, the SEC screams foul, but then allows it to avoid getting left behind.

Unless things somehow return to a semblance of sanity, you're likely going to see guys who make the practice squad get a chance to return to the game. Maybe a little raw to break into the NFL (that particular team), but good players. They will argue that their own development and personal growth are being hindered by not being allowed to keep playing D1 football until they are ready, and some judge will rule in their favor.

I don't like that, don't want it, but can see it coming down the road.

re: Ole Miss, give me your linemen.

Posted by Scoob on 8/19/26 at 10:14 pm to
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It's been an SEC rule a while now that a player can't transfer inter-conference after the Winter transfer portal.

Even when their was a spring portal, that was an SEC rule.
Umm, who cares if it's "an SEC rule"?

I mean, seriously. Somebody just got a judge to allow guys that were in NFL preseason camps, to go back to college and play. You had to sign contracts to get to go to camps.

That used to be the biggest no-no rule around, and it's getting bypassed.

At this rate, it might not be a surprise for someone to be able to stay on an NFL practice squad, and still play college that same season.

I just don't think some conference rule will stand up vs the courts, the way things are now.
I like teams being able to wear whatever jersey they want.

I'm good with LSU always wearing white, it makes them distinctive. It would look significantly worse if they had white pants too, btw. The signature gold pants and helmets stand out.

It would be weird for Bama-OU-Arkansas, or Miss State-A&M. Those teams seem to blur into each other.

Hell, if Boise can make the field not green, there really shouldn't be any restrictions on actual uniforms.
The timing of this is just silly :lol:

I mean, they headline it with Jack Pyburn, who had 2 sacks all of last season for LSU.
But he's coming off an NFL preseason game where he just got 2 sacks vs the Jets. He may have initially decided he needed a fallback plan, but I bet right now he's wanting to have a big game 2 for the Bucs. Another multi-sack game, and he's on somebody's opening day roster.
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like, voluntarily leaving an nfl team to go back to college is mind blowing to me.


That isn’t what’s happening

Well... the Saints cut Harris before their first preseason game. (Guy with the Scrabble name). He could definitely use a fallback plan.

But Pyburn? I had that game on in the background, he got 2 sacks in the Bucs-Jets game. Perspective, he got 2 sacks for LSU all of last year. He might just need to play in a different defense than what Baker runs.
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It’s crazy how the media and fanbase blew this out. Tag team champions over here acting like he murdered someone, or broke laws.

All I see here is a kid who wanted more than 3 years no jersey rotation for a whole fricking Heisman that is sitting in Football Ops for all the 5 stars to take pictures with (they don’t grab Burrow’s I checked).

That's all you see?

Regarding Burrow's #9, I don't think anyone asked for it. If there was a consensus 5 star recruit who projected as the best at his position in that class (like Pickett), that had worn said number his whole pre-college career (like Pickett), expected to come in and start day one, and to become an All American (like Pickett), who asked for that number- yeah, I think we issue it.
Lane didn't randomly hand out #5 to a backup.

And note- I just did some google digging...

Apparently DJ Pickett has a #5 tattoo on his left arm, and has had it since before he came here. So that wasn't just a casual request.