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Maybe we can solve that housing inventory issue by killing AirBNB

Posted on 10/6/23 at 9:08 am
Posted by stout
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Posted on 10/6/23 at 9:08 am
LEFT: Homes for Sale in Broward Co, FL

RIGHT: Airbnbs listed in Broward Co, FL







Some other interesting updates:





Housing affordability is the worst on record, per the National Association of Realtors.





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Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 10/6/23 at 9:08 am to
THIS is the housing porn on Fridays I love
Posted by MyRockstarComplex
The airport
Member since Nov 2009
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Posted on 10/6/23 at 9:09 am to
But is that issue unique to tourism destinations?

Houses are still flying off the shelf north of Atlanta and the AirBNB inventory is sparse.

Granted, this bubble goes bust when recession hits and middle managers are cut.
Posted by stout
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Posted on 10/6/23 at 9:10 am to
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Houses are still flying off the shelf north of Atlanta and the AirBNB inventory is sparse.




Are they?





Everyone comes into these threads and says this but the national numbers say differently. Where is the slow down happening if everyone says it's not happening in their city?
This post was edited on 10/6/23 at 9:12 am
Posted by teke184
Zachary, LA
Member since Jan 2007
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Posted on 10/6/23 at 9:11 am to
Can’t legally kill AirBnB but I’m sure a lot of states and municipalities are going to legislate them to death in an attempt to tax them.


In Florida’s case specifically, there are laws on the book regarding commercial property and how it is taxed. The state brought in a ton of money by data mining at one point by buying a database of all commercial property listed as available in the state and cross referencing it with the tax rolls to see who was paying taxes on those properties.

Anyone not paying the commercial property tax received a bill and likely a bunch of interest and penalties as well.
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
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Posted on 10/6/23 at 9:11 am to
I'd rather the market kill airbnb if there's no need for it.

Airbnb is not doing well. Oversaturation, and now it costs more than just getting a hotel.

Posted by YOURADHERE
Member since Dec 2006
8043 posts
Posted on 10/6/23 at 9:13 am to
I know Lafayette just voted to ban STRs in any neighborhood zoned RS1 and I believe plan to put strict permitting regulations on other locations. I'm sure lawsuits are incoming and it'll be a while before anything actually changes, lots of people who purchased properties around the Saint Streets with the intention of just STR'ing them are sweating.
Posted by Chicken
Jackassistan
Member since Aug 2003
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Posted on 10/6/23 at 9:14 am to
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Can’t legally kill AirBnB but I’m sure a lot of states and municipalities are going to legislate them to death in an attempt to tax them.
pretty sure New Orleans just moved to a system that limits how many short term rentals there can be on a block, there is a lottery system on who gets the permits to run a short term rental on that block, and there must be a property manager living on site...someone can correct me if I am wrong.
This post was edited on 10/6/23 at 9:15 am
Posted by Sheep
Neither here nor there
Member since Jun 2007
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Posted on 10/6/23 at 9:15 am to
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Can’t legally kill AirBnB


Sure you can - our legislators (local, state, national) just don't know how to make or pass laws anymore.

The entire job is fund raise > get re-elected > fling shite at the "other team", so the cycle takes less effort next time around.

Nowhere in that is "serve your constituents", which is what Civics class pretends the job is.
Posted by GetCocky11
Calgary, AB
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 10/6/23 at 9:15 am to
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Everyone comes into these threads and says this but the national numbers say differently.


Yeah, those posts confuse me also.

Houses are sitting for noticeably MUCH longer these days around me.
Posted by Bluefin
The Banana Stand
Member since Apr 2011
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Posted on 10/6/23 at 9:16 am to
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killing AirBNB

Good luck. I will always choose to stay in a 1 BR bungalow for $60/night that also has a $130 service fee and $300 cleaning fee before I'd stay in a $85/night 3-star hotel.
Posted by WDE24
Member since Oct 2010
54140 posts
Posted on 10/6/23 at 9:17 am to
I haven’t seen much softening in prices yet, but inventory is slowly increasing and hoses are sitting on the market longer. I’m guessing it’s a few more months before I start noticing softening in prices.
Posted by Epic Cajun
Lafayette, LA
Member since Feb 2013
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Posted on 10/6/23 at 9:17 am to
The thing is, STRs were already essentially outlawed in the neighborhood deed of the Saints streets, but if you’re operating without anyone bringing it up for 24 months you are “grandfathered” in.
This post was edited on 10/6/23 at 9:18 am
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
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Posted on 10/6/23 at 9:20 am to
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Good luck. I will always choose to stay in a 1 BR bungalow for $60/night that also has a $130 service fee and $300 cleaning fee before I'd stay in a $85/night 3-star hotel.



I am the exact opposite.

I have stopped even bothering looking at Airbnbs except under very specific circumstances.

I'd rather just be in a hotel with amenities and a concierge etc
Posted by stout
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Posted on 10/6/23 at 9:22 am to
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I haven’t seen much softening in prices yet, but inventory is slowly increasing and hoses are sitting on the market longer. I’m guessing it’s a few more months before I start noticing softening in prices.




The few markets I check on Zillow every week show price reductions happening. Anything in the median price or lower not so much but cuts are happening in homes above that. Saw one at the top of its market lower its price by $130K this week.
Posted by dgnx6
Baton Rouge
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Posted on 10/6/23 at 9:22 am to
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Airbnb is not doing well. Oversaturation, and now it costs more than just getting a hotel.


It depends.

I got a vrbo cheaper in orlando than any of the shite disney hotels.

2bed 2 bath. You aint getting that at a hotel for cheap. It was also in a country club. So golf course, bar and restaurant, multiple pools.








This post was edited on 10/6/23 at 9:25 am
Posted by MardiGrasCajun
Dirty Coast, MS
Member since Sep 2005
5367 posts
Posted on 10/6/23 at 9:23 am to
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Can’t legally kill AirBnB


Sure you can. STR's were banned in Grapevine, TX while I lived there.
Posted by MrLSU
Yellowstone, Val d'isere
Member since Jan 2004
25992 posts
Posted on 10/6/23 at 9:24 am to
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pretty sure New Orleans just moved to a system that limits how many short term rentals there can be on a block, there is a lottery system on who gets the permits to run a short term rental on that block, and there must be a property manager living on site...someone can correct me if I am wrong.


There are so many workarounds on this that it’s feel good legislation to appease the uneducated into thinking the problem is solved by the politicians. Reality is there is no way to shutdown AirBnBs
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
115962 posts
Posted on 10/6/23 at 9:25 am to
Orlando/Disney is probably one of the few exceptions to the rule, I agree.

There are some other places I have been with scant hotel options but great VRBO options.

Sedona is a place like that as well.
Posted by WDE24
Member since Oct 2010
54140 posts
Posted on 10/6/23 at 9:25 am to
I’m sure it’s already happening in a lot of markets. Price softening hasn’t hit mine yet that I’ve noticed, but the writing is on the wall. Although I typically only keep up with a couple of in demand zip codes, so it may be happening in my market broadly already.
This post was edited on 10/6/23 at 9:26 am
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