re: Matthew Naquin - LSU Phi Delt who killed pledge - Sentenced to 5 years in prison

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Does partial responsibility not lie with alcohol companies for making alcohol in general? Does partial responsibility not lie with movie makers for making hard partying and hazing look fun? etc etc

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Remember, it's cool to sue Remington for school shootings.

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This is amazingly misleading

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BR media is the worst.

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explain this use of force.

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Not too much different than coercing someone to commit suicide. Did they kill them? Not directly. Did they have a serious impact on whether the person lived or died? Absolutely. That's a crime and it deserves to be punished.

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Remember, it's cool to sue Remington for school shootings.

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That would be the same thing he is trying to argue with the alcohol company. Suing the gun company or alcohol company is absolutely absurd, but they are both inanimate objects. Naquin should have known better, rather he wanted Max out of the fraternity or not, that anyone drinking that much is going to a hospital one way or another.

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Suing the gun company or alcohol company is absolutely absurd

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Not according to your logic train

If alcohol wasnt made, would Gruver have died from alcohol? Hard to argue they arent "partially" responsible

Orange jumpsuit
No belt
Standard haircut
Plain black shoes with no laces

Frat level 0/10

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His dorm roommate said he saw Gruver completely drugged up and on alcohol for all 10 days they lived together. The dude was a complete mess on his own

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Here's another example for you...drug dealer sells drugs and gets caught. He gets charged with distribution of a controlled substance.

Drug dealer sells drugs and junkie overdoses and dies, he slammed with a manslaughter or homicide charge.

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PORTLAND, Ore. — Joseph Richard Caruso, 34, a prolific darknet narcotics vendor residing in Lake Oswego, Oregon, was sentenced today to 87 months in federal prison and three years’ supervised release for illegally distributing fentanyl that was linked to a 2017 fatal overdose in Wisconsin.

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This is not uncommon and there are lots of laws on the books for just this type of situation.

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Not according to your logic train

If alcohol wasnt made, would Gruver have died from alcohol? Hard to argue they arent "partially" responsible

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Still an inanimate object. A gun nor alcohol have consciousness to make decisions. I am agreeing with you that this is more so Max's fault than Naquin's, but to argue he had no fault is incorrect. If you want to play the straw man of the alcohol or gun, you can argue God is at fault for everything. I get you are saying where is the line, but it's impossible to argue Naquin didn't play a major role in Max's death.

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Naquin seems like a complete tool and does shoulder some blame....5 years seems pretty heavy handed though

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Yea, this is a bit much.

I think the dude, RIP, that was doing the drinking needs to be accountable for himself. Unless he was literally forced, he wasn't, it's tough to hold other accountable, basically others should know his tolerance and he has no responsibility for his own tolerance.

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Drug dealer sells drugs and junkie overdoses and dies, he slammed with a manslaughter or homicide charge.

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So the liquor store and Jack Daniels is liable?