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re: Mass Shooting in Lewiston Maine! (At least 18 dead) SUSPECT FOUND DEAD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted on 10/26/23 at 8:39 am to
Posted by Jcorye1
Tom Brady = GoAT
Member since Dec 2007
76373 posts
Posted on 10/26/23 at 8:39 am to
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ABC News lead article for fricks sake. This isn’t hard.




Sorry for only reading the CNN and FOX news articles on the situation, and other people here have mentioned as well it may be erroneous.
Posted by PikesPeak
The Penalty Box
Member since Apr 2022
985 posts
Posted on 10/26/23 at 8:40 am to
Yeah, the reservists are getting the same range time and training as 2/75 or CAG. Cut the shite. You're being disingenuous
Posted by bikerack
NH
Member since Sep 2011
2550 posts
Posted on 10/26/23 at 8:41 am to
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Just because people have cell phones in their hand 247 doesn’t mean they’re going to try to get social media famous while a shooting spree is happening lol.


What about after? I'm not necessarily talking about during the attack...

People record everything now when something is happening. During the Boston bombing lockdown, people were recording the police from their living room windows. Nothing like that here from what I have seen from a town with a population of 36K.

Whatever. Maybe it all makes sense to you.
Posted by momentoftruth87
Your mom
Member since Oct 2013
86110 posts
Posted on 10/26/23 at 8:43 am to
You think people involved in an attack are going to want to post shite right after like dead bodies or chaos they just lived through?
Posted by AUstar
Member since Dec 2012
19617 posts
Posted on 10/26/23 at 8:43 am to
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People that are a threat to themselves and others are routinely kept against their wishes in mental facilities, and people can be deemed incompetent where guns and other rights are removed.


He voluntarily committed himself. Usually you only lose gun rights if the state commits you against your will. It takes a judge to "adjudicate" a person as "mentally defective" and that likely won't happen if a guy goes in voluntarily. The state wouldn't even know about it, in fact.

However, this wasn't a normal circumstance of some depressed guy. He told people he had homicidal ideation and wanted to "shoot up" a base. I am not clear whether he only told doctors this or whether he made the threat publicly. The two circumstances are different. If he made the threat publicly, I doubt he would be allowed to go in voluntarily. (But again, I don't know for sure how all that went down).

Doctors are supposed to report to Police if they feel a guy's threats are significant. We don't know exactly what went down here between the facility and Cops. I do know mental health is private and Cops won't even know a guy is in the hospital unless he was forced to go against his will. Cops can force a guy on a 72 hour hold without a warrant. After that a judge has to get involved if they want to hold him longer.
Posted by bikerack
NH
Member since Sep 2011
2550 posts
Posted on 10/26/23 at 8:45 am to
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You think people involved in an attack are going to want to post shite right after like dead bodies or chaos they just lived through?


Other people live in town. 36,000 weren't all in the bowling alley.

But to answer your question, have you not seen the videos uploaded after other attacks? Unfortunately, it happens all the time!
Posted by tigerpimpbot
Chairman of the Pool Board
Member since Nov 2011
69087 posts
Posted on 10/26/23 at 8:45 am to
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You think people involved in an attack are going to want to post shite right after like dead bodies or chaos they just lived through?


“This is my dead family. World Star!”
This post was edited on 10/26/23 at 8:46 am
Posted by Pfft
Member since Jul 2014
5074 posts
Posted on 10/26/23 at 8:45 am to
one thing is for certain. Alex Jones ain't gonna say shite about this shooting.
Posted by RealDawg
Dawgville
Member since Nov 2012
11315 posts
Posted on 10/26/23 at 8:45 am to
Related… for all the talk of social services…the funding and actual places people can go get help has severely diminished from 10-20 years ago.

They pump funds into BS non profits that don’t do shite. The only facilities are essentially prisons or homeless.

Day treatment and short stay state funded facilities are non existent.

Posted by mdomingue
Lafayette, LA
Member since Nov 2010
47474 posts
Posted on 10/26/23 at 8:49 am to
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Shooting unarmed civilians inside is not exactly difficult. Any Tom dick or harry that has ever shot a couple hundred rounds could easily pull this off.

No reason to judge this guys abilities until he is engaged by armed LE.

Let’s be honest here, our current FBI is most likely not interested in confronting this guy randomly. My guess is this morning they are working more on finding the guy without alarming him and putting as many factors in their favor as possible to prevent LE injuries. Which is not entirely bad as long as there is no risk to the public like he is hiding out in the country. Tons of rural cabins in Maine.




All true. I haven't read the accounts of what happened so cannot really comment on what his apparent capabilities were.
Posted by bikerack
NH
Member since Sep 2011
2550 posts
Posted on 10/26/23 at 8:50 am to
For the record, I believe the attacks happened and dozens of real people died. The guy in the security footage most likely is the Card guy.

I'm just surprised my timelines aren't filled with people talking about their loved ones that are missing or died. No videos of police cars rushing to and fro.

If not for "Maine" being in the trending topics of my twitter feed, I wouldn't have known anything happened there last night...and I follow hundreds of news people/accounts.
Posted by Geaux23
Member since Sep 2012
5980 posts
Posted on 10/26/23 at 8:53 am to
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If not for "Maine" being in the trending topics of my twitter feed, I wouldn't have known anything happened there last night...and I follow hundreds of news people/accounts.



same
noone said anything at work this morning
didn't hear anything last night
nothing on the radio this morning
just finding out by logging into tigerdroppings
Posted by oogabooga68
Member since Nov 2018
27194 posts
Posted on 10/26/23 at 8:53 am to
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ABC News lead article for fricks sake.


Then chances of it being accurate are at less than 50%.
Posted by Corinthians420
Iowa
Member since Jun 2022
16104 posts
Posted on 10/26/23 at 8:55 am to
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Yeah, the reservists are getting the same range time and training as 2/75 or CAG. Cut the shite. You're being disingenuous


I'm sure the reservists that enjoy shooting guns don't do the bare minimum required range time to keep their reserve status.

Actually I know from having a friend that is a reserve (previously active duty) and owns 10+ rifles and goes and shoots them all the time.

Of course I have other friends that were never active or reserve that do that as well.
This post was edited on 10/26/23 at 8:56 am
Posted by IAmNERD
Member since May 2017
24240 posts
Posted on 10/26/23 at 8:55 am to
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The issue here is not enforcing BASIC laws already on the books.

Yet again.

That's what gets me too. There are laws that could have, and should have in this case, prevented this from happening. But, again, here we are with a person who had known mental issues, had made credible threats, and spent time in a me tal institution just a couple months ago perpetrating a violent crime on a community where law enforcement and medical professionals failed to protect them with the apparatus already in place.

So nobody should be talking about any gun control legislation or anything else until they address how they start enforcing and using the things already in place to deal with this kind of situation.
Posted by GetCocky11
Calgary, AB
Member since Oct 2012
53509 posts
Posted on 10/26/23 at 8:56 am to
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noone said anything at work this morning
didn't hear anything last night
nothing on the radio this morning
just finding out by logging into tigerdroppings


It is the top story on literally every single news website
Posted by auggie
Opelika, Alabama
Member since Aug 2013
31578 posts
Posted on 10/26/23 at 9:01 am to
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Not sure it has been mentioned but a good amount of the people killed were Deaf individuals at the bowling alley

They were having a cornhole tournament


If that's true, it seems this guy was out to maximize body count. He may not be done yet. They need to get his arse quick.
Posted by Geaux23
Member since Sep 2012
5980 posts
Posted on 10/26/23 at 9:01 am to
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It is the top story on literally every single news website



ok? doesn't change what I said
Posted by VABuckeye
NOVA
Member since Dec 2007
38283 posts
Posted on 10/26/23 at 9:03 am to
I just communicated with a friend who lives in Maine. He's traveling today but said he and his are all safe and that everyone is on lockdown.
Posted by baldona
Florida
Member since Feb 2016
24206 posts
Posted on 10/26/23 at 9:06 am to
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If that's true, it seems this guy was out to maximize body count. He may not be done yet. They need to get his arse quick.


I’m sure LE knows more but if he wanted to continue this I would have expected him to be active already.

I believe I have read that most people that ‘plan’ these things don’t really plan beyond the initial evac.
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