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re: Man charged for wiping his phone with "duress password" during airport search
Posted on 7/27/26 at 12:17 am to Obtuse1
Posted on 7/27/26 at 12:17 am to Obtuse1
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giving a code that results in the destruction of potential evidence is an overt act that constitutes destruction of evidence.
if he used that same program that the journalist used and just wiped the phone for 18 hours, is it really destruction? or just locking down what he didn't have to give them access to in the first place?
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Posted on 7/27/26 at 12:23 am to jnethe1
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I’m not supportive of the police state. I wasn’t a supporter of the patriot act either when it was proposed and implemented. But what necessitates someone to have something like this?
Because if you annoy a cop by not licking his boot he’ll do everything he can to dig to inconvenience you as much as possible to validate his power.
It’s why I don’t understand the “if you have nothing to hide” crew.
You aren’t dealing with people mostly seeking to serve the community. You are dealing with folks on a power trip.
EVERYONE breaks a law everyday. Every time you assume you have a 5mph leeway on the speed limit it’s a law broken. Every swerve reaching for your phone is a law broken. Stopping on the line at a red light rather than behind it is a law broken.
Posted on 7/27/26 at 12:25 am to jnethe1
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But what necessitates someone to have something like this?
Knowing you've been put on a terrorist watch list because you participated in protests? Feels like the govt saying he might have CP is the govt admitting to what they wanted to plant onto his phone.
Posted on 7/27/26 at 12:26 am to JohnnyKilroy
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If you have nothing to hide, you shouldn’t have a problem with the government accessing your phone upon demand.
Ok then hopefully we find out that you are right. Was there probable cause?
Edit- and is wiping your phone illegal?
This post was edited on 7/27/26 at 12:29 am
Posted on 7/27/26 at 12:29 am to JohnnyKilroy
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If you have nothing to hide, you shouldn’t have a problem with the government accessing your phone upon demand.
So you think we should turn over all our private information just because “we have nothing to hide”? I’m sure that’s what the Jews thought when the Gestapo knocked on their doors.
Posted on 7/27/26 at 12:40 am to georgia
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if he used that same program that the journalist used and just wiped the phone for 18 hours, is it really destruction? or just locking down what he didn't have to give them access to in the first place?
I didn't see anything to suggest they were the same, if he did use something that was temporary then it becomes a different question.
In that case the government would probably argue in part the exigent circumstances doctrine. The issue is if he did destroy evidence then he broke the law, whether that law is constitutional or not is a different story. As I pointed out before prior to getting your passport back you are still technically in international travel. Constitutional issues have a different lens when someone is not technically in the US.
Posted on 7/27/26 at 10:52 am to Obtuse1
US citizens have rights that cannot be violated by the US govt.
Are you not a US citizen when returning from outside of the US borders?
Are you not a US citizen when returning from outside of the US borders?
Posted on 7/27/26 at 11:04 am to JohnnyKilroy
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If you have nothing to hide, you shouldn’t have a problem with the government accessing your phone upon demand.
Nah, I'm good.
Maybe you could make an argument for such warrantless searches for a foreign national attempting to cross into the US, but that's bullshite to try to pull on an American citizen. No warrant = frick off
Posted on 7/27/26 at 11:35 am to LSUBoo
The moment he stepped off the airplane, he's an American citizen with Constitutional rights. Those rights dont magically disappear. He asked for an attorney and was denied access to one.
Posted on 7/27/26 at 11:44 am to JohnnyKilroy
quote:This is true. Also, frick the government and their desire to violate my rights and invade my privacy. #internetisforporn
If you have nothing to hide, you shouldn’t have a problem with the government accessing your phone upon demand.
This post was edited on 7/27/26 at 11:46 am
Posted on 7/27/26 at 12:53 pm to America250
He’s a USA citizen no matter where he is.
Posted on 7/27/26 at 1:06 pm to JohnnyKilroy
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If you have nothing to hide,
I agree in principle, but what is to stop the government from planting stuff on your phone as they go through it in a separate room away from you?
Posted on 7/27/26 at 1:51 pm to Obtuse1
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The issue is if he did destroy evidence
Did he destroy evidence? Or did the person entering the code destroy evidence?
Posted on 7/27/26 at 2:11 pm to JohnnyKilroy
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If you have nothing to hide, you shouldn’t have a problem with the government accessing your phone upon demand.
Posted on 7/27/26 at 2:30 pm to Green Chili Tiger
Your honor, I had to shite real, real bad. They was holding me up and it just
got worse. In between me having shite pains and trying to remember my
code I forgot one of the numbers.
Posted on 7/27/26 at 2:55 pm to FliesByNight
Somebody should’ve told the founding fathers that the authorities are always the good guys
Posted on 7/27/26 at 2:56 pm to JohnnyKilroy
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If you have nothing to hide, you shouldn’t have a problem with the government accessing your phone upon demand.
I was hoping to protect your mom’s dignity but whatever
Posted on 7/27/26 at 3:01 pm to JohnnyKilroy
nah dawg
Posted on 7/27/26 at 4:11 pm to JohnnyKilroy
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you have nothing to hide, you shouldn’t have a problem with the government accessing your phone upon demand.
It is the governments responsibility to prove reasonable suspicion and proof to violate rights, not on the citizens to present proof of his innocence.
This man very well may be a pedo and deserve to be executed, but if we allow governments to run over the rights of someone we disagree with, we have nothing to stop them from doing the same thing when the government doesn’t like us.
Posted on 7/27/26 at 7:05 pm to Oilfieldbiology
Well said
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