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re: LSU's war on Greeks continues
Posted on 2/28/18 at 9:55 am to LSUGrad9295
Posted on 2/28/18 at 9:55 am to LSUGrad9295
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why didn't someone step up and say hey, this is going a little too far over the edge...let's scale it down a notch"
They have been screaming this at the Greek system for years, if not decades!
You and every one else on earth knows it
Posted on 2/28/18 at 9:57 am to udtiger
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LSU's war on Greeks continues
Good...maybe if the "Greeks" stop killing people then maybe LSU will back off.
Posted on 2/28/18 at 10:04 am to udtiger
Time to move off campus & break free of the over regulation.
Posted on 2/28/18 at 10:06 am to forever lsu30
quote:Isn't this what the black fraternities did?
Time to move off campus & break free of the over regulation.
Posted on 2/28/18 at 10:13 am to choupiquesushi
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Isn't this what the black fraternities did?
Yeah, and those dudes brand each other all while giving LSU a giant "frick off".
Interdasting.
Posted on 2/28/18 at 10:16 am to udtiger
Hazing has gotten out of hand. It was once all fun and games and then it started to get too depraved.
Posted on 2/28/18 at 10:17 am to udtiger
Didn’t notice the “spot checking” for Greek parties at first glance. That will absolutely kill Greek on campus parties. Greeks will have to do more out of town bus trips instead. In my experience more people over drink and more health issues happen on bus trips than in-house parties, so LSU will regret their decision
Posted on 2/28/18 at 10:18 am to forever lsu30
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Time to move off campus & break free of the over regulation.
Not feasible, for any number of economic and other reasons. Finding a suitable, affordable house in a residential area near campus would be difficult to impossible. If you do, good luck finding a mortgage lender, insurer, etc. willing to work with an unaffiliated group. They'd laugh you out of the office. If you think the university is tough on you, wait until the neighbors call the cops every time somebody raises their voice or slams a car door after 10 PM, much less having a party.
There are colleges where greeks are off campus. At those places, they're tiny, exist on a shoestring basis, and are mostly irrelevant to campus life. Like it or not, the Greeks need to be in LSU's good graces, and if LSU decides the Greek system needs to be deemphasized, it will be deemphasized.
As far as the alums saving the day with a boycott or somesuch, undergrads overestimate how much they matter to most alums. After you've been out a few years, it just doesn't cross your mind that much. Certainly not enough to launch a campaign over it.
I am a greek alum, and it's a shame what's happening, but I'm trying to inject a little reality into the conversation.
This post was edited on 2/28/18 at 10:19 am
Posted on 2/28/18 at 10:33 am to lsuhunt555
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Over half of the greeks I know that went to LSU live out of state and don't give any money back to the University. They may give money to their Frat/Sorority, but not the school itself.
Good luck drawing out of state kids that can’t get into the UTs and UGAs of the world.
Posted on 2/28/18 at 10:34 am to udtiger
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The administration has had a Dean Wormer hard-on for the Greeks since the early 90s.
Its gone on longer than that.
Posted on 2/28/18 at 10:37 am to the LSUSaint
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It's not illegal! It's illegal to be the one yo SUPPLY it to underage kids them with the expectation if having no responsibility for their actio
Are you saying a 20 year old drinking is legal?
Posted on 2/28/18 at 10:37 am to Jim Rockford
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As far as the alums saving the day with a boycott or somesuch, undergrads overestimate how much they matter to most alums. After you've been out a few years, it just doesn't cross your mind that much. Certainly not enough to launch a campaign over it.
I am a greek alum, and it's a shame what's happening, but I'm trying to inject a little reality into the conversation.
That is a reality. My 3 roommates freshmen year at LSU were all Greek.
They have no affiliation with it anymore and I guarantee I know more about the present Greek situation than them (because of here). They just treated it as some stupid shite they did in college to get fricked up and laid
Posted on 2/28/18 at 10:39 am to udtiger
It's long been a goal to destroy frats. Frats are generally composed of rich, white, right leaning students with conservative parents while college administrations are full of left leaning blowhards. Destroy frats and one way of life for the political right.
This post was edited on 2/28/18 at 10:40 am
Posted on 2/28/18 at 10:41 am to PhilipMarlowe
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PhilipMarlowe
>Aggie
>hates frats
>accepts the core, if not loves the core
I bet you got married at 22-24 years old too, listen to bad county and think you are “county” when you grew up in the burbs
This post was edited on 2/28/18 at 10:42 am
Posted on 2/28/18 at 10:46 am to udtiger
Eventually, schools are going to cut all formal ties with the Greek system. What will happen then is basically an "Old School" scenario where fraternities will exist "underground" and be subject to no regulations. Basically, it will just revert back to how fraternities started in the first place...a group of students will form a social club with selective membership.
Posted on 2/28/18 at 10:47 am to BigPerm30
This is the result of about 30 years of trying to limit liability due to drinking and it has been supported by the national offices of the fraternities. here's the rub though, when the drinking age was 18 and they allowed beer trucks on campus for big frat parties you almost never heard of kids dying from too much alcohol.
Louisiana raised the age and then in the mid 90's LSU started forcing the fraternities and their big parties like South Seas and Bid Night off campus....so they went to the bars where they got drink specials with incredibly bad results like the Ben Wynn thing in 1997.
Louisiana raised the age and then in the mid 90's LSU started forcing the fraternities and their big parties like South Seas and Bid Night off campus....so they went to the bars where they got drink specials with incredibly bad results like the Ben Wynn thing in 1997.
Posted on 2/28/18 at 10:49 am to The Boat
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Frats are generally composed of rich
That's a pretty big generalization for LSU.
Posted on 2/28/18 at 10:49 am to udtiger
This truly is the dumbest shite...
Good luck increasing trust between student organizations and Greek life with this garbage. Student orgs will NEVER self report a violation of rules because doing so will result in that org getting kicked off of campus.
Basically, this is like police setting the speed limit on I-10 to 35 and sentencing anyone that speeds to death.
The result of that sort of policy is that everyone will just take another road. If LSU's goal here is to increase transparency between its administration and student orgs, this is a massive administrative failure.
Things will just go more underground and the administration will move in exactly the opposite direction it needs to. Maybe there is a culture problem here at LSU... but this doesn't work to FIX that. Fixing it would be providing an avenue for orgs to self report violations and providing an avenue for them to put internal policies in place to ensure that they don't happen again.
This is what happens when people that know nothing about Greek life try to change it... (I'm looking at you, King).
Good luck increasing trust between student organizations and Greek life with this garbage. Student orgs will NEVER self report a violation of rules because doing so will result in that org getting kicked off of campus.
Basically, this is like police setting the speed limit on I-10 to 35 and sentencing anyone that speeds to death.
The result of that sort of policy is that everyone will just take another road. If LSU's goal here is to increase transparency between its administration and student orgs, this is a massive administrative failure.
Things will just go more underground and the administration will move in exactly the opposite direction it needs to. Maybe there is a culture problem here at LSU... but this doesn't work to FIX that. Fixing it would be providing an avenue for orgs to self report violations and providing an avenue for them to put internal policies in place to ensure that they don't happen again.
This is what happens when people that know nothing about Greek life try to change it... (I'm looking at you, King).
Posted on 2/28/18 at 10:53 am to udtiger
Like it or not this is a CYA move from the administrators and I can't say I blame them. If this were to happen again and they didn't put out a policy like this and warn these Greek organizations than they open themselves up for a huge lawsuit. The first one that gets caught I guarantee they will make an example out of them.
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