re: LSU's war on Greeks continues

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I guess the question should be "why didn't someone step up and say hey, this is going a little too far over the edge...let's scale it down a notch"

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i dont know man...it was 35 years ago.
my recollection of the planning phase of that particular operation is a little fuzzy

we were young, stupid, and a lot less visible than students of today are.

ETA: this was published in the yearbook that year. much smaller (and private) school, but admin vs greek has been going on in colleges forever. none of this is new

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And LSU already bans common source alcohol and hard liquor at house parties. If they’re trying to ban it at bars and third party events, they’ll quickly realize that rule will never be followed. The bars don’t give a shite what LSU bullshite policy says.

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What would keep the houses from leaving campus? I assume the national charters require them to be on campus.

They could call themselves the "Motorycycle less motorcycle club formerly named Delta Kappa Epsilon"

It is crazy to me, the lack of weight that greek alumni have at LSU. Here at Alabama it is really strong and that has created one of the largest greek systems in th country.

I was in a house in the late 80's. We were "hazed" a litle but nothing too bad. We did not consider the appearance conditions (decent clean clothes when on campus) hazing. We also were required to keep the house clean especially immediately after a party. Band quit playing and we got to work cleaning. When breakfast was served the house was spotless. But we only had to do it for one semester and then the next class did it.

When my son joined a house last fall I discovered that each house was required to have janitors and cleaning staff that are state employees. The pledges dont have to do anything. Hell we used to have to serve the food and refill tea glasses. We sang songs that the actives requested during supper.

It was no problem then but now the houses get in trouble if they tell the pledges to wear clean clothes to class. Its ridiculous.

As stated above, it's very hard for a Greek organization to maintain a presence off campus as an unrecognized group. Being affiliated with the university confers a plethora of advantages, financial and otherwise. They could hypothetically move off campus, but instead of 100-150 guys/girls with a mansion, you're a dozen or two at most, in a ramshackle house if you have a house at all, in some neighborhood where everybody else hates your presence and is constantly at odds with you.

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Meh. “Greeks” didn’t kill anyone, that specific group of losers did.

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It's funny how people on here use this narrative when the discussions of black crime rate are very different.

Went through rush and didn't even go back to see who I got a bid from.

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Over half of the greeks I know that went to LSU live out of state and don't give any money back to the University. They may give money to their Frat/Sorority, but not the school itself

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Yet they apparently still donate at a higher rate than not greeks...

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maybe if the "Greeks" stop killing people then maybe LSU will back off.

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I know my pledge ship was pretty rough. I probably only survived because 80% of the time was spent in ICU recovering. Even then, actives tried several times to assassinate me.

Hazing is mild. Stories of hazing are highly exaggerated. The times they even remotely resemble the tall tales of going over the line, it's when one guy (not the whole organization) was a drunk a-hole and they are usually checked for it very, very quickly. The drinking deaths do need to be addressed, but I definitely binge drank just as much outside of fraternity events than I did in the fraternity. In fact, my worst experiences are pretty much all outside of the fraternity. I was never once forced to drink because I was a pledge.

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Oh grow up...what would the perception be if administration did NOTHING after a kid died?

What's more important? Drinking your alcohol at your parties or possibly risking someone's life. LSU wants to minimize the risk of another kid dying and all you idiots care about is how it affects how cool your parties are.

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This is what happens when people that know nothing about Greek life try to change it..

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Case and point. I'm not saying that the university should have done nothing. What I'm saying is that the poor execution of this new plan will cause the Greek system to move backwards.

Phrasing this issue as even remotely close to being, "drinking alcohol vs risking someone's life" makes it all too clear that you know nothing at all about how the Greek system works.

It isn't that hard -- the problem in Greek life is a lack of transparency. This new set of rules will exacerbate that tenfold.

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very hard for a Greek organization to maintain a presence off campus as an unrecognized group. Being affiliated with the university confers a plethora of advantages, financial and otherwise.


There is no way a national Greek organization would even support a chapter that wasn't affiliated with a university.

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might want to check 74 miles down the road.. there are a couple doing quite well...