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re: LSU's war on Greeks continues

Posted on 2/28/18 at 8:48 am to
Posted by LSUGrad9295
Baton Rouge
Member since May 2007
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Posted on 2/28/18 at 8:48 am to
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we did abandon some pledges on the causeway though


How, on any civilized planet, is this a "cool" thing to do? And what idiot in his right mind would want to join a group of people who would do this to them?
Posted by STEVED00
Member since May 2007
23216 posts
Posted on 2/28/18 at 8:56 am to
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That's what happens when you kill somebody


Killing someone as a result of hazing is one thing. Having a pledge run to Taco Bell at midnight type of “hazing” is another.

I could see LSU not differentiating between the different levels of “hazing”.
Posted by cajunTiger22
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2008
381 posts
Posted on 2/28/18 at 9:10 am to
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The tricky part is defining hazing.


That is the real issue I have. Most people will see this as hazing is forced drinking, paddling, or something of that nature. However the current language states that if a pledge goes to Taco Bell, and offers to pick up something for an active, its still hazing. Hell an argument could be made that requiring pledges to learn about fraternity history is hazing.
This post was edited on 2/28/18 at 9:15 am
Posted by TigerJeff
the Emerald Coast
Member since Oct 2006
16356 posts
Posted on 2/28/18 at 9:19 am to
Aw crap! When I need an elitist worthless douchebag, where am I going to go?
Posted by TigersSEC2010
Warren, Michigan
Member since Jan 2010
38535 posts
Posted on 2/28/18 at 9:20 am to
If LSU is going to implement this, they have to define hazing. Making kids wear a tie is not hazing by any sensible person, however, if going by the vague arse definition in place, it would be considered hazing.

And LSU already bans common source alcohol and hard liquor at house parties. If they’re trying to ban it at bars and third party events, they’ll quickly realize that rule will never be followed. The bars don’t give a shite what LSU bullshite policy says.
Posted by GetBackToWork
Member since Dec 2007
6607 posts
Posted on 2/28/18 at 9:21 am to
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Hell an argument could be made that requiring pledges to learn about fraternity history is hazing.


At some schools, any activity stated to be required is redefined as hazing. You can argue such a policy may be trying to get ahead of this situation, but its clearly taken to an unworkable extreme.

Will Wade kicked the basketball players out of the locker room following a few bad losses. He made them eat inferior food, and suffer humiliating consequences. A greek organization doing something similar would be charged with hazing.
Posted by TheCaterpillar
Member since Jan 2004
76774 posts
Posted on 2/28/18 at 9:22 am to
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It's always a good idea to alienate and eliminate the portion of the alumni with the highest donation rate.


LSU is last in the SEC in academic donations



So maybe they should be the last to attack the organizations their few donors care about?

Posted by dixiechick
Member since Sep 2017
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Posted on 2/28/18 at 9:23 am to
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Posted by cgrand
HAMMOND
Member since Oct 2009
50853 posts
Posted on 2/28/18 at 9:26 am to
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How, on any civilized planet, is this a "cool" thing to do?

i don't think you read me saying it was "cool", you read me saying we did it. and we paid the price for it

which if i'm not mistaken is what this thread is about
Posted by TheCaterpillar
Member since Jan 2004
76774 posts
Posted on 2/28/18 at 9:28 am to
The majority of rich, white kids from rich, white families that pump money into schools want to be members of a Greek organization.

Its why so many rich kids go to Ole Miss and Alabama from all over the Southeast, for the Greek scene.

You might not like those people, but they are the ones that end up inheriting their parents' money and connections, and they are the ones that donate later in life. It is just the way it is.

Destroying the Greek system at LSU will have very negative financial consequences.
Posted by TigersSEC2010
Warren, Michigan
Member since Jan 2010
38535 posts
Posted on 2/28/18 at 9:30 am to
LSU is losing kids by the dozen to other SEC schools and this will only make it worse
Posted by Fewer Kilometers
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2007
38699 posts
Posted on 2/28/18 at 9:31 am to
They want the money generator that is the fraternity system (Greek alumni donate in a much greater proportion to the other alumni) but they don't want the current fraternity system.

So if you guys could continue churning out Greek alumni while having the least amount of fun while you're actually in college... that would be great... m'kay?
Posted by the LSUSaint
Member since Nov 2009
15444 posts
Posted on 2/28/18 at 9:33 am to
My God...what's so hard about not hazing in a violent manner and not serving drinks to underage kids?

Just fricking stop and you'll be left alone, you rent a friend idiots..and yes, I was in a fraternity but never put a pledge in danger or humiliated him so he'd "respect" me.

Posted by TheCaterpillar
Member since Jan 2004
76774 posts
Posted on 2/28/18 at 9:34 am to
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and not serving drinks to underage kids?



Oh frick off

Its college. Parties serve booze to 18-20 year olds and they get drunk. It shouldn't even be illegal.

Forcing a kid to chug everclear led to a death and a crime and they are being punished for it. That is not the same as having parties with alcohol where people voluntarily have fun.

Posted by TigersSEC2010
Warren, Michigan
Member since Jan 2010
38535 posts
Posted on 2/28/18 at 9:37 am to
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Just fricking stop and you'll be left alone, you rent a friend idiots..and yes, I was in a fraternity but never put a pledge in danger or humiliated him so he'd "respect" me.


I would bet that you were in a shite chapter.

Just because you were in a fraternity doesn’t make your opinion relevant. 85% of chapters nationally are fricking embarrassing.
Posted by Big_Slim
Mogadishu
Member since Apr 2016
3979 posts
Posted on 2/28/18 at 9:37 am to
Poor some out for the homies. The march to a vanilla, uniform world continues.
Posted by the LSUSaint
Member since Nov 2009
15444 posts
Posted on 2/28/18 at 9:46 am to
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That is not the same as having parties with alcohol where people voluntarily have fun.



Oh, so thats what hazing is? Who knew


quote:

Its college. Parties serve booze to 18-20 year olds and they get drunk. It shouldn't even be illegal.


It's not illegal! It's illegal to be the one yo SUPPLY it to underage kids them with the expectation if having no responsibility for their actions.

Sorry you have no concepts of what happens to LSU and the insurances that have yo pay off these wrongful death claims, or rape claims, etc. You really expect LSU or other colleges to do nothing? Just accept it?

You're just so damn dumb thinking that nothing should be done. And for every 1 story put in the papers, there are probably 10 x's the amount of violations and lawsuits that are happening on a smaller scale. Well guess what. LSU is named in every single one of them, costing our school and state millions per year.
This post was edited on 2/28/18 at 9:53 am
Posted by Lake Vegas Tiger
Lake Vegas
Member since Jun 2014
3299 posts
Posted on 2/28/18 at 9:47 am to
frick the greeks
Posted by the LSUSaint
Member since Nov 2009
15444 posts
Posted on 2/28/18 at 9:50 am to
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TigersSEC2010


2010? So cute

So since you want to bet, let's do it...ban bet?
Posted by LSUGrad9295
Baton Rouge
Member since May 2007
38335 posts
Posted on 2/28/18 at 9:52 am to
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How, on any civilized planet, is this a "cool" thing to do?

i don't think you read me saying it was "cool", you read me saying we did it. and we paid the price for it

which if i'm not mistaken is what this thread is about



You are correct.

I guess the question should be "why didn't someone step up and say hey, this is going a little too far over the edge...let's scale it down a notch" Is the peer pressure within a group so great that people lose all of their common sense?
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