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Posted on 3/19/24 at 2:31 pm to
Posted by CoachChappy
Member since May 2013
32569 posts
Posted on 3/19/24 at 2:31 pm to
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Why would they have even stopped teaching phonics?

The people in charge are idiots and grifters.
Posted by High C
viewing the fall....
Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 3/19/24 at 2:36 pm to
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How pathetic is public education in Louisiana that we had to copy Mississippi?

Congrats, I guess.


I’m pretty sure that Mississippi didn’t invent phonics.
Posted by VetteGuy
Member since Feb 2008
28222 posts
Posted on 3/19/24 at 2:41 pm to
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Louisiana implemented Mississippi's reading curriculum that teaches the original phonics based reading curriculum.

RIF
Posted by 4x4tiger
Louisiana
Member since Feb 2006
2915 posts
Posted on 3/19/24 at 2:43 pm to
1970's education here. I was so good at spelling bees in class it got to the point I would misspell words on purpose just so I could sit and chill
Posted by Slammy
Member since Feb 2023
126 posts
Posted on 3/19/24 at 2:49 pm to
My son has a weekly phonograms test (1st Grade). I was shocked how well he has progressed this year with this reading.
Posted by dgnx6
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2006
68761 posts
Posted on 3/19/24 at 3:08 pm to
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Same. We also have a first grader and she's reading really well. We've started phonics with her two younger sisters as well to get them a head start on reading and they're doing great with letter recognition and sounds. Can't believe we ever moved away from phonics-based learning.


If you are reading with your kid and having them read to you, you are way ahead of most Louisiana parents.
Posted by Philzilla
Member since Nov 2011
1392 posts
Posted on 3/19/24 at 3:09 pm to
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I have a 1st grader, so I imagine she is in the midst of this.

You imagine?
You should probably know.
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I don't remember learning to read as early as she has.

1st grade?

Posted by dgnx6
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2006
68761 posts
Posted on 3/19/24 at 3:11 pm to
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Landry will f this up when he cuts funding to public education


Only left-wing idiots call school choice cutting funding.

Increase funding and the scores keep going down.

Implement common sense instead of money, kids read better.


People like you would hear a kid say, let me axe you something, and never correct them. Oh let them speak how they want you bigot.



Posted by WylieTiger
Member since Nov 2006
12965 posts
Posted on 3/19/24 at 3:13 pm to
I can second this.
Posted by PGAOLDBawNeVaBroke
Member since Dec 2023
721 posts
Posted on 3/19/24 at 3:13 pm to
Good it needs to make a full come back. They have been trying to teach kids to read by not sounding out words - just looking at some illustrations in the book and making it up as they go. This is why kids can’t fricken read, some lowest common denominator technique, common core type bullshite. Even in Texas this was going on and they are now switching back to phonics and sounding words out - you know , learning how to actually decode words and read. That “new way” was some DEI no dumbass left behind business.
Posted by etm512
Mandeville, LA
Member since Aug 2005
20757 posts
Posted on 3/19/24 at 3:19 pm to
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How'd you get her interested. I have a PK4 kid that loves the idea of reading and plays around with the sight words; but doesn't seem to want to put the two thoughts together and actually work on reading. At least not at home, teachers say she's doing great, but I don't know what metric they are comparing her to.


For my kids at the preschool level these type books helped. It's a pad that comes with 8 books that the pad reads aloud and they can follow along. My kids started to really get more site words from going through these books so many times
Posted by LSUFanHouston
NOLA
Member since Jul 2009
37139 posts
Posted on 3/19/24 at 3:27 pm to
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Just wait till common core math gets canceled


What's ironic is that EurekaMath is basically the phonics of math. It's a building block based system, like phonics is.

The problem is most of our math teachers in this state are pretty terrible. and parents aren't being given the resources to support kids at home.
Posted by TigerDeacon
West Monroe, LA
Member since Sep 2003
29318 posts
Posted on 3/19/24 at 3:28 pm to
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Louisiana records nation's highest growth in reading


Probably because are having two hour blocks of English/Language Arts/Reading everyday as opposed to the traditional one hour class. This is because of the devastating damage to our kids when we made them stay at home for school for most of a school year. Scores plummeted after that.

They used to make them take two hours blocks of math too but I guess those scores finally improved enough to drop it back to one hour this year.
Posted by LSUFanHouston
NOLA
Member since Jul 2009
37139 posts
Posted on 3/19/24 at 3:36 pm to
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Probably because are having two hour blocks of English/Language Arts/Reading everyday as opposed to the traditional one hour class. This is because of the devastating damage to our kids when we made them stay at home for school for most of a school year. Scores plummeted after that.


Schools were doubling blocking ELA for many years before COVID.

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They used to make them take two hours blocks of math too but I guess those scores finally improved enough to drop it back to one hour this year


Our schools double block ELA and Math through 6th grade, then double block ELA and single block Math for 7th and 8th grade.

Then, in high school, we use a 4 class a day / change at semester schedule. We do a full year of math and a full year of ELA in years where there is a state test.
Posted by Jake88
Member since Apr 2005
68346 posts
Posted on 3/19/24 at 3:40 pm to
You're a boob...
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In the 1970s and 1980s, the Dick-and-Jane method was replaced by the whole-language approach, which was vaguely associated with the left. The theory was, essentially, that if you surround children with high-quality, engaging children’s literature, they will acquire the ability to read. The approach proved wildly popular with teachers, but the movement encountered a serious obstacle in the 1990s when reading scores in California—which had adopted whole language statewide—took a serious plunge.
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Leaders of the whole language movement charged that those who advocated phonics were allies of the “far right.” As Diane Ravitch recounts in her book Left Back, one of them, Kenneth Goodman, argued that opponents of whole language were afraid it would work too well. They wanted to use phonics, he said, to keep people from becoming empowered through literacy.
Posted by HuskyPanda
Philly
Member since Feb 2018
1742 posts
Posted on 3/19/24 at 4:01 pm to
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and parents aren't being given the resources to support kids at home.


That was my biggest hurdle with it, but once I figured it out I agree that it was a better way to look at numbers.
Posted by Oneforthemoney
New Iberia, La
Member since Dec 2013
1795 posts
Posted on 3/19/24 at 4:18 pm to
It is amazing that most public schools do not teach phonics. Rather, they teach memorization. That is crazy. Wife homeschools our son and the curriculum she uses gives a strong foundation based off of phonics. His friends, some two or three grades higher cannot pronounce or spell basic words. My son on the other hand through phonics can pronounce and spell words correctly that he has never heard before because of phonics. One of the many reasons we homeschool instead of opting for the public education system.
Posted by High C
viewing the fall....
Member since Nov 2012
53854 posts
Posted on 3/19/24 at 5:10 pm to
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I’m pretty sure that Mississippi didn’t invent phonics.


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Louisiana implemented Mississippi's reading curriculum that teaches the original phonics based reading curriculum.

RIF


Louisiana implemented Mississippi's reading curriculum that teaches the original phonics based reading curriculum.

Louisiana borrowed what Mississippi borrowed that Louisiana used for years before switching to a less effective reading curriculum. Semantics.

Posted by Out da box
Member since Feb 2018
402 posts
Posted on 3/19/24 at 5:44 pm to
I know Cade Brumley. State superintendent, he’s a treasure for our state. His son is at Hillsdale College. A great college promoting freedom and not indoctrination.
Could be our future governor.
Posted by Corinthians420
Iowa
Member since Jun 2022
6655 posts
Posted on 3/19/24 at 6:02 pm to
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