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re: Liberty Safes is going the way of Bud Light on Twitter. Update: Liberty has responded
Posted on 9/7/23 at 10:22 pm to Klark Kent
Posted on 9/7/23 at 10:22 pm to Klark Kent
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BeepNode is a “realist”
meaning he only abides by his own reality.
I may have to take the "L" on it, but I just don't see AB Inbev being in a bad spot in a few years, and I don't see them ever being more scared of conservatives or red pilled liberals than democrats and the Blackrock ESG types.
The fact of thte matter is that these Eat Bugs and Own Nothing people are really fricking powerful and can boost companies and hurt competitors when they need to. If any of the big competitors try to capitalize on it then they probably get a lot of bad PR thrown their way in the media and so on. I don't think people on this board understand how coordinated and ruthless the cathedral is.
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Posted on 9/7/23 at 11:08 pm to Hateradedrink
Why would anyone buy a safe that can be remotely unlocked?
Like… ignoring the whole FBI narc aspect of this, Liberty can apparently unlock any of their safes at any time.
frick. That."
Reading comprehension-you fail.
Like… ignoring the whole FBI narc aspect of this, Liberty can apparently unlock any of their safes at any time.
frick. That."
Reading comprehension-you fail.
Posted on 9/7/23 at 11:14 pm to boxcarbarney
It’s not like a gun safe is going to stop the FBI from getting in. Liberty probably saved the guys gun safe.
The feds could easily get an angle grinder and cut the damn thing open in 5 minutes. You know the fbi isn’t going to pay for his totaled safe.
The feds could easily get an angle grinder and cut the damn thing open in 5 minutes. You know the fbi isn’t going to pay for his totaled safe.
Posted on 9/8/23 at 5:12 am to BeepNode
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I don't think people on this board understand how coordinated and ruthless the cathedral is.
You nailed it. It is like thinking you can get in the ring with Mike Tyson. But if you watch 10k hours of him training you would think otherwise. Someone wrote a great article making this analogy to the global elitist cabal. They have been practicing for the last 50 years.
Posted on 9/8/23 at 5:40 am to TheSadvocate
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You have got to be trolling at this point. No rational person would type something like that.
You're misunderstanding what I'm saying. I'm not defending Liberty, I'm asking the question bc people are saying they secretly kept backdoor access codes. If they were doing this secretly I'm much less eager to forgive them based on what I thought was a pretty good course correction. But it sounds like from what I read that a lot of people knew about this access because it seems to have been commonly used by customers who forgot their codes or whatever. I'm honestly curious.
Posted on 9/8/23 at 6:01 am to BeepNode
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What if there's child porn in there? You saying we shouldn't give police a backdoor to protect our children?
That's where the MAGA child porn network keeps all of their child porn.
Posted on 9/8/23 at 6:37 am to BeepNode
quote:
If you have nothing to hide..
quote:
You saying we shouldn't give police a backdoor to protect our children?
Front door.
In your scenario, the FBI should destroy the safe to save children.
The homeowner should be given the option to open it themselves. If they refuse, destroy the safe. If the homeowner is innocent, the Feds buy him a new safe within 30 days.
We all know this isn’t how it would work, but it beats a private company being put in the middle.
Besides, the Feds can always issue a warrant to the private company.
It limits the authority of the government to a degree.
On another note, were you one of the proponents of lockdowns, mask mandates, and vaccine mandates?
All are instances of government overreach.
Posted on 9/8/23 at 7:32 am to Corinthians420
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I guess now we know to only buy our safes second hand, scratch off the serial number so the manufacturer can't tell which one it is, and to get one without electronic passkey entry, go with the metal turn handle.
Why?
It can still be popped open in under a min which is exactly what they will do sans combo.
Posted on 9/8/23 at 7:48 am to BeepNode
quote:...or a noose.
What if there's child porn in there? You saying we shouldn't give police a backdoor to protect our children?
Posted on 9/8/23 at 7:49 am to jimmy the leg
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The homeowner should be given the option to open it themselves. If they refuse, destroy the safe. If the homeowner is innocent, the Feds buy him a new safe within 30 days.
We all know this isn’t how it would work, but it beats a private company being put in the middle.
Besides, the Feds can always issue a warrant to the private company.
It limits the authority of the government to a degree.
Yep. We need less govt
Posted on 9/8/23 at 7:53 am to boxcarbarney
Without a warrant or with a warrant? Because I have heard both. Can someone clarify?
Posted on 9/8/23 at 7:54 am to windmill
What the frick are you rambling about?
Posted on 9/8/23 at 9:28 am to sabbertooth
quote:
It’s not like a gun safe is going to stop the FBI from getting in. Liberty probably saved the guys gun safe.
The feds could easily get an angle grinder and cut the damn thing open in 5 minutes. You know the fbi isn’t going to pay for his totaled safe.
Damn if some of y'all just miss the point altogether.
Posted on 9/8/23 at 9:30 am to Lsupimp
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Without a warrant or with a warrant? Because I have heard both. Can someone clarify?
Liberty has mentioned nothing about the company being served with a warrant. There was no warrant compelling them (Liberty) to do anything. The only warrant was for the search of the guy's property.
This post was edited on 9/8/23 at 9:32 am
Posted on 9/8/23 at 9:52 am to WhereisAtlanta
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It can still be popped open in under a min which is exactly what they will do sans combo.
Then why bother going through the process with Liberty? Surely that took longer than a minute?
Posted on 9/8/23 at 12:08 pm to Lsupimp
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Without a warrant or with a warrant? Because I have heard both. Can someone clarify?
Liberty's first press release, they were being coy, stating that their policy is to release to the codes to law enforcement if there is a valid warrant, not stating who the warrant was addressed to.
People called them out on this, saying that a warrant for one of their customers is not the same as Liberty receiving a court order to release the access codes.
Within a day, Liberty changed their company policies to no longer release access codes to anyone if they do not receive a court order to do so.
So, basically, Liberty admitted that they did not receive a court order directing them to release the codes; they basically got a phone call from the FBI saying "hey bro help us out" and instantly knuckled under.
Posted on 9/8/23 at 12:10 pm to LegendInMyMind
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Damn if some of y'all just miss the point altogether.
Right? It almost seems deliberate.
Posted on 9/8/23 at 10:19 pm to boxcarbarney
Posted on 9/8/23 at 10:31 pm to SantaFe
quote:
Any safe is a target
All safes are abled to be cracked.
Posted on 9/9/23 at 1:48 pm to OweO
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I doubt its one master code for every safe Liberty built. That'd have been too big of a risk if that one code ever got leaked, it would have rendered every Liberty safe worthless.
Not quite all, just those with electronic locks. It's already suspected that there may be multiple master codes, the lock manufacturer and the reseller.
As soon as my new Group 1 mechanical lock arrives and I install it, the old electronic one goes on the bench for some fun and learning. It seems there is a non-destructive electrical bypass possible to trigger the lock open.
For those wanting to keep the electronic lock but don't trust Liberty to actually permanently destroy ALL of the records upon request. Simply arrange a keypad swap with another person, remove the serial number stickers, with no safe serial number trail Liberty's bypass code should not work if it's based on serial numbers. Any other backdoor code is still in the wild.
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