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re: Latest Updates: Russia-Ukraine Conflict

Posted on 5/3/22 at 8:45 pm to
Posted by Easye921
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Member since Jan 2013
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Posted on 5/3/22 at 8:45 pm to
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BRIllini07

F22is obviously a big pile of shite. No reason why it has never been used extensively.




What a dumb take. It is most likely the greatest fighter jet of all time. It hasn't been used more because we haven't needed it and they cost 300 million a piece.
Posted by Capt ST
High Plains
Member since Aug 2011
13689 posts
Posted on 5/3/22 at 8:50 pm to
So all that to say you built a relationship with someone.
Posted by Lakeboy7
New Orleans
Member since Jul 2011
28324 posts
Posted on 5/3/22 at 8:51 pm to
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is the worst fighter plane take of all time


I think people are conflating the 35 and 22.

As you mentioned earlier the 22 is not allowed to be sold, not even to our best pals the Israelis.
Posted by StraightCashHomey21
Aberdeen,NC
Member since Jul 2009
126752 posts
Posted on 5/3/22 at 8:53 pm to
They are loud as frick taking off

Like B-1 loud

Can hear it miles away
Posted by Lakeboy7
New Orleans
Member since Jul 2011
28324 posts
Posted on 5/3/22 at 8:55 pm to
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They are loud as frick taking off



Like F4 loud?
Posted by BRIllini07
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2015
3208 posts
Posted on 5/3/22 at 8:55 pm to
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As you mentioned earlier the 22 is not allowed to be sold, not even to our best pals the Israelis


Like this one F-22 doing literal Top Gun shiite…

LINK
Posted by StraightCashHomey21
Aberdeen,NC
Member since Jul 2009
126752 posts
Posted on 5/3/22 at 9:09 pm to
I’m not that old
Posted by Easye921
Mobile
Member since Jan 2013
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Posted on 5/3/22 at 9:13 pm to
Posted by MikeyFL
Member since Sep 2010
10357 posts
Posted on 5/3/22 at 9:17 pm to
The only fair conclusion is for Russia to be split into three countries - and for each of those three countries to become puppet states of Poland, Ukraine, and the Czech Republic for the next 50 years.
Posted by aTmTexas Dillo
East Texas Lake
Member since Sep 2018
24356 posts
Posted on 5/3/22 at 9:25 pm to
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Sorry for the rant, just get irritated when I see people question the value of spending the time and money conducting training with foreign nations. And consequently this is also why I'm so vested in Ukraine's fight against Russia. I met some great Ukrainians during my time participating in Rapid Trident, and I wonder if those officers I made friends with are even still alive.

A lot of people in this country think we should just sit at home and keep to ourselves and not participate in problems around the world. It ain't our fight. I just ignore that opinion because we have to act around the world or the world events will overtake us. I mean should we sit at home while Russia invades or China invades sovereign nations? Then there is the argument they all are corrupt and our politicians launder money there. And it goes on and on.
Posted by Kentucker
Rabbit Hash, KY
Member since Apr 2013
20055 posts
Posted on 5/3/22 at 9:28 pm to
“You really oughta go home.”

Posted by Mr Happy
Member since May 2019
2763 posts
Posted on 5/3/22 at 9:46 pm to
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So I'm wanting to expound on this thought, and how it plays in to why we conduct training exercises not only with our NATO allies, but other nations like Israel, Japan, Kuwait, Jordan, Saudi Arabia, etc.

This is the best post on this board that I can remember. It's posts like these that makes me plough through all the other idiotic nonsense.
Posted by PhilipMarlowe
Member since Mar 2013
22003 posts
Posted on 5/3/22 at 10:00 pm to
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“We tested against F-15s, F-16s and then people realised it wasn’t a joke or a theory: the F-22 worked. My favourite time was a Raptor four-ship versus 12 F-15Cs and we’re like, ‘Let’s see how quick we can kill these guys’ So we hook up way up high and supersonic and they can’t take a shot and they’re running away at Mach 1 and we kill them in two minutes or so. I was thinking, ‘This thing is unbelievable.’ When the sensors work and each plane talks to each other, the Raptor is nearly untouchable when things are right. The F-22 versus a 4th-generation fighter is like having two football teams against each other and one of them [the F-22] is invisible!”


Posted by TigersnJeeps
FL Panhandle
Member since Jan 2021
2890 posts
Posted on 5/3/22 at 10:05 pm to
I thought this was an interesting comment...
quote:

When the sensors work
Posted by DownshiftAndFloorIt
Here
Member since Jan 2011
72482 posts
Posted on 5/3/22 at 10:17 pm to
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F22is obviously a big pile of shite




I dont believe an F15 has ever been shot down in combat, and the F22 is wayyyyyyy better than that.
Posted by 1BamaRTR
In Your Head Blvd
Member since Apr 2015
24873 posts
Posted on 5/3/22 at 10:37 pm to
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F22 is a ducking total pos

Based on what?
Posted by dgnx6
Member since Feb 2006
90609 posts
Posted on 5/4/22 at 12:10 am to
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I mean should we sit at home while Russia invades or China invades sovereign nations?



The largest group of Asians in America are the Chinese. The Chinese also killed 65000 people within our borders with fentanyl last year. And then there is covid.

We’ve been sitting our arse at home for China.
This post was edited on 5/4/22 at 12:10 am
Posted by StormyMcMan
USA
Member since Oct 2016
4694 posts
Posted on 5/4/22 at 6:28 am to
ISW last night
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Ukrainian officials reported with increasing confidence that the Kremlin will announce mobilization on May 9. Ukraine’s Main Military Intelligence Directorate Chief Kyrylo Budanov said on May 2 that the Kremlin has begun to prepare mobilization processes and personnel ahead of the expected May 9 announcement and has already carried out covert mobilization.[1] Ukraine’s National Security and Defense Council said that high-ranking Russian officials are trying to legitimize a prolonged war effort as the Third World War against the West, rather than the "special military operation” against Ukraine, as Russian President Vladimir Putin has hitherto framed Russia’s invasion.[2] ISW has no independent confirmation of Russian preparations for mobilization.

A significant Ukrainian counteroffensive pushed Russian forces roughly 40 km east of Kharkiv City.[3] A senior American defense official reported the Ukrainian operation, which is consistent with social media reports from both Ukrainian and Russian sources that Ukrainian troops took control of Staryi Saltiv on May 2.[4] This Ukrainian counteroffensive is very unlikely to affect Russian ground lines of communication (GLOCs) to Izyum, as the Russians have not been relying on GLOCs from Kharkiv to support their operations in Izyum but have been using routes further to the east and well beyond the most recent Ukrainian counteroffensive’s limit of advance. The Ukrainian counteroffensive may, however, unhinge the Russian positions northeast of Kharkiv and could set conditions for a broader operation to drive the Russians from most of their positions around the city. This possibility may pose a dilemma for the Russians—whether to reinforce their positions near Kharkiv to prevent such a broader Ukrainian operation or to risk losing most or all of their positions in artillery range of the city.

Russia’s long-term intentions regarding the status of Mariupol and other occupied areas seem confused. Some anecdotes from Mariupol indicate that Russia may plan to incorporate Mariupol and the surrounding environs into the Donetsk People’s Republic (DNR), and possibly annex the DNR to the Russian Federation. Other anecdotes suggest that Russia could directly absorb Mariupol into Rostov Oblast. These inconsistencies could simply be artifacts of reporting or confusion on the ground, but they could also indicate actual confusion about Russia’s long-term plans for governing the Ukrainian regions that Moscow’s forces currently occupy. These anecdotes clearly support the assessment that Putin has no intention of ceding occupied territories back to an independent Ukraine and is, at most, considering exactly how he intends to govern regions that Russia has illegally seized.



Posted by Centinel
Idaho
Member since Sep 2016
46575 posts
Posted on 5/4/22 at 6:58 am to
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So all that to say you built a relationship with someone.


Way to miss the entire point jackass.
Posted by Chromdome35
Fast lane, behind a slow driver
Member since Nov 2010
8202 posts
Posted on 5/4/22 at 7:37 am to
Was in Alaska to visit my grandkids, their father is a Capt in the army who was stationed at JBER (Combined army / Air Force base).. The F22 is based there. From their house on base which was about a mile from the runway, you could see and hear the F22s practicing combat take offs. They are loud as frick, but oh so sexy. I drove past the flight line several times to look at them…12 of them parked in a row is one bad arse display of power.
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