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re: Latest Updates: Russia-Ukraine Conflict

Posted on 9/13/24 at 12:35 am to
Posted by Lee B
Member since Dec 2018
3945 posts
Posted on 9/13/24 at 12:35 am to
The ACLU, actually... the rest all have interest in what is allowed to be said. This isn't a corporate fight.

And Elon's complaints about Twitter never made much sense... Twitter was private company, do I have free speech maximalist rights in the living room of your private home if I come over? No... you're going to tell me to shut up in your house if you don't like what I'm saying. He got pissed that he was fined for making statements that equate to stock manipulation all the time, and he bizarrely (he is on the spectrum and often doesn't make sense) focused his anger on the platform. Twitter had a "left" bias because it was full of leftists... the same way this site has a right bias because it's more full of Conservatives than Leftists... He's succeeded in running a lot of those people off, which equates to running his customers off, and there's just something about the site and the way it functions that Conservatives don't really get into as much for some reason. No copycat site created for Conservatives has prospered as far as users...
Posted by dallastigers
Member since Dec 2003
10594 posts
Posted on 9/13/24 at 12:39 am to
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Trump negotiated the withdrawal from Afghanistan NOT WITH THE AFGHAN GOVERNMENT, but WITH THE TALIBAN!!! He resurrected The Taliban... he handed Afghanistan over to the Taliban..

That was common sense. afghan govt only in power because of the US military presence and US money. The only way the Taliban wound not have taken over is if we stayed another 20 years. Did you want that?

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Well I believe that Trump was supposed to cripple NATO if he was re-elected to make it possible for Putin the invade Ukraine, and beyond, virtually uncontested

Ignorant take. Trump was about the others in NATO paying their share of the military costs. That is not crippling NATO.

Trump’s plan had goals that had to be accomplished for each stage of withdrawal and that included not killing of American soldiers or personnel. Date wasn’t set in stone if taliban didn’t comply. Biden let them not comply, still left, and left a ton of weapons and military equipment. Sadly Biden’s implementation helped get US soldiers murdered, failed the withdrawal process, and armed the taliban. Biden and Harris FUBAR’d it.

Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
120445 posts
Posted on 9/13/24 at 12:47 am to
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I've seen some good melts from you but saying dick size equates to geopolitical knowledge is a new one


Yall are making up for something is all I can say. I don’t think people that are secure act like yall.
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
120445 posts
Posted on 9/13/24 at 12:50 am to
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... and Braun? Who cares what Braun says? He loves Putin and Russia and hates Ukraine, America and Jews... so you and he have all that in common


Yeah, a man standing up for his citizens and not wanting them to die is an antisemite for getting in the way of your LARP and exceptionally small penis getting off.
Posted by Chromdome35
Fast lane, behind a slow driver
Member since Nov 2010
8163 posts
Posted on 9/13/24 at 12:55 am to
You seem to have Penis on your mind tonight; maybe you and Sir Winston should hook up.
Posted by Lee B
Member since Dec 2018
3945 posts
Posted on 9/13/24 at 1:03 am to
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Yeah, a man standing up for his citizens and not wanting them to die is an antisemite for getting in the way of your LARP and exceptionally small penis getting off.



You don't even look into the people you're reposting...

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Posted by Lee B
Member since Dec 2018
3945 posts
Posted on 9/13/24 at 1:07 am to
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I've seen some good melts from you but saying dick size equates to geopolitical knowledge is a new one


It might explain why his geographical measurements are off, perception-wise... "Russia made huge advances on this map (compared to what's in my pants)"
Posted by Lee B
Member since Dec 2018
3945 posts
Posted on 9/13/24 at 1:11 am to
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Ignorant take. Trump was about the others in NATO paying their share of the military costs. That is not crippling NATO.


Politico: Why John Bolton Is Certain Trump Really Wants to Blow Up NATO
The hawkish former national security adviser on Trump’s real plans.

“Look, I was there when he almost withdrew, and he’s not negotiating,” said Bolton, who served as Trump’s national security adviser. “His goal here is not to strengthen NATO, it’s to lay the groundwork to get out.”

“I think there are some Republicans who support Trump out there saying, ‘Oh, it’s, you know, it’s not a big deal. He’s not going to do it, so on and so forth.’ I’m telling you, I was there in Brussels when he damn near did it,” Bolton said.

And if Trump does destroy NATO, he warned, the consequences would be dire.
Posted by VolSquatch
First Coast
Member since Sep 2023
8364 posts
Posted on 9/13/24 at 7:16 am to
Glad to see everything is completely normal in the Ukraine thread
Posted by LSU7096
Member since May 2004
3008 posts
Posted on 9/13/24 at 7:27 am to
He did but he sent the blankets and 1st aid kits for comfort
Posted by bigjoe1
Member since Jan 2024
1861 posts
Posted on 9/13/24 at 7:30 am to
LINK from oilprice.com

Russian oil refining capacity drops 14.5% in August

In recent months, Russia has seen higher-than-expected maintenance and repairs at its refineries after Ukraine stepped up its drone attacks early this year on the Russian refining capacity. In addition to unplanned repairs to fix damages from the drones, some refineries have been undergoing planned maintenance. This dragged down Russia’s fuel output and exports earlier this year.
This post was edited on 9/13/24 at 7:32 am
Posted by DMAN1968
Member since Apr 2019
13216 posts
Posted on 9/13/24 at 7:40 am to
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Well I believe that Trump was supposed to cripple NATO if he was re-elected to make it possible for Putin the invade Ukraine

Wow...head first, off the high dive, into the deep end of bullshite.
Posted by VolSquatch
First Coast
Member since Sep 2023
8364 posts
Posted on 9/13/24 at 7:52 am to
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Trump's plan to end the war may include the creation of a "demilitarised zone" on the Ukrainian territories occupied by russia. Meanwhile, Ukraine would have to give up its NATO membership


A DMZ is a stilly solution and kind of a cop out. Say how you would handle the land in question and give us your version of a solution that won't have us back in this same spot in a decade or two.

Its absolutely silly that anyone would still be considering NATO membership for Ukraine though.

"We have to get them in so we can protect them" Then why not just protect them right now?

My house burned down, but at least next time I'll have a fire extinguisher.
Posted by CitizenK
BR
Member since Aug 2019
15666 posts
Posted on 9/13/24 at 8:17 am to
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Russian oil refining capacity drops 14.5% in August


The website based in London is owned by Russians. The drop could be more than this. It's a good site for price indexes to various grades of crude oil as well as natural gas hubs. Those are accurate, but historically articles are sometimes not accurate at all. Most articles are accurate though
Posted by AU86
Member since Aug 2009
26257 posts
Posted on 9/13/24 at 8:47 am to
My God.

You are as brainwashed as those Putin diots.on the PB. Just to the other side. It is unbelievable what some of them believe, but you and some of the hard leftists in this thread are just as bad.

Just the other side of the same coin.

Both sides: disgusting idiots. Hypocrites to the 10th degree.

This thread has turned into nothing but a leftist circle jerk.


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The ACLU, actually... the rest all have interest in what is allowed to be said.


My God. What about the Southern Poverty Law Center? You are probably a paid up member of that corrupt, lying, grifting group of whores.

Chicken needs to move this thread to the PB. It would be entertainment. But you hard leftists wouldn't have the balls to post over there. You stay over here to post in your safespace.
This post was edited on 9/13/24 at 9:16 am
Posted by VolSquatch
First Coast
Member since Sep 2023
8364 posts
Posted on 9/13/24 at 9:04 am to
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John Bolton


You lefties are really in a bad way lately.

Using John Bolton to attempt to back up your points on foreign policy.

Your candidate name dropping a Dick Cheney endorsement.

Your candidate openly bragging about GOLDMAN SACHS backing her economic plan (which definitely exists, source: Trust us).

Posted by AU86
Member since Aug 2009
26257 posts
Posted on 9/13/24 at 9:11 am to
They love John Bolton now!!!
They love Dick Cheney now!!!
They love John McCain now!!!!




The Dems are the party of Trotsky now.
This post was edited on 9/13/24 at 9:50 am
Posted by cypher
Member since Sep 2014
5645 posts
Posted on 9/13/24 at 9:45 am to
British Defence Intelligence
INTELLIGENCE UPDATE
UPDATE ON UKRAINE 13 September 2024

Iran has recently delivered Fath-360 close range ballistic missiles to Russia. First publicly displayed in 2020, the Iranian Fath-360 (also known as the BM-120) can deliver a 150kg warhead to a range 120 km with a claimed accuracy of less than 30 metres. It can be deployed on a variety of road-mobile launchers including one capable of launching up to six missiles.

To date, Iranian military aid to Russia's campaign in Ukraine has included the supply of hundreds of one-way attack (OWA) uncrewed aerial vehicles (UAVs), artillery munitions and extensive support to Russian OWA UAV domestic production. The supply of ballistic missiles represents a further deepening of Iran's and Russia's military relationship.

The supply of Iranian ballistic missiles will supplement and enhance Russia's ability to conduct precision strikes against Ukrainian military or civilian infrastructure targets close to front lines, whilst also enabling Russia to preserve more of its longer-range capabilities for use against targets deeper inside Ukraine.
Posted by No Colors
Sandbar
Member since Sep 2010
13312 posts
Posted on 9/13/24 at 10:06 am to
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Using John Bolton to attempt to back up your points on foreign policy


That's not 1% as bad as hiring John Bolton as your National Security Advisor.

What kind of idiots would have done that? Two come to mind....
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
42606 posts
Posted on 9/13/24 at 10:13 am to
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The supply of Iranian ballistic missiles will supplement and enhance Russia's ability to conduct precision strikes against Ukrainian military or civilian infrastructure targets close to front lines, whilst also enabling Russia to preserve more of its longer-range capabilities for use against targets deeper inside Ukraine.


But we are going to be the bad guy if we let Ukraine use our missiles to defend themselves?
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