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re: Latest Updates: Russia-Ukraine Conflict

Posted on 9/13/24 at 10:18 am to
Posted by CitizenK
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Posted on 9/13/24 at 10:18 am to
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This thread has turned into nothing but a leftist circle jerk.


Not at all.

I don't agree with Bolton but I have listened to points he makes. He has made some good ones. IMO, dead arse wrong on Trump.

Bolton succeeded McMaster who has stated that Trump had great conservative instincts and did a lot for the military as part of that. Also,in supplying Ukraine with some weapons. One problem which McMaster thought was the constant crap from Bannon and Priebus who seemed to all about political gains for themselves. I could spot that with Bannon during the 2016 campaign. He had already phucked up the reliability of Breitbart to mimic the Alex Jones stories to get more website hits and generate more ad revenue from basement dwelling incels like OMLandshark.

Cheney is mostly pissed that he is no longer relevant which can be a problem with has beens like Woody Jenkins in Baton Rouge and Col. MacGregor now the military expert for Judge Napolitano and Tucker the Stupid Phucker.

FWIW, it bothers me that Trump referred to Phat Phuck Orban. I want to believe that this is pandering to a part of our voters, with 95% of all voters actually being clueless.
This post was edited on 9/13/24 at 10:20 am
Posted by cypher
Member since Sep 2014
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Posted on 9/13/24 at 10:25 am to
Posted by WestCoastAg
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 9/13/24 at 10:44 am to
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I don’t think people that are secure act like yall.
remember that time you wished a girl who worked for linkedin was forced into sexual slavery?
Posted by Lima Whiskey
Member since Apr 2013
22594 posts
Posted on 9/13/24 at 10:56 am to
NATO personnel would be the ones programming the targets.
Posted by No Colors
Sandbar
Member since Sep 2010
13312 posts
Posted on 9/13/24 at 11:01 am to
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NATO personnel would be the ones programming the targets.


Is this something you know independently?

Or are you literally just parroting what Putin said yesterday?
Posted by lsu777
Lake Charles
Member since Jan 2004
37983 posts
Posted on 9/13/24 at 11:13 am to
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remember that time you wished a girl who worked for linkedin was forced into sexual slavery?


im no fan of the war but also not a fan of russia and believe Ukraine has a right to defend itself

but on the subject of OMlandshark.......rememebr when he uses to tell us how we had to send troops to ukraine and to taiwan as we had to protect them at all cost?

now he is he has flip flopped over and over again.

frick him, frick putin, frick ukraine. all three suck dick but

all this shite ends real quick, russia goes home, period.
Posted by lsu777
Lake Charles
Member since Jan 2004
37983 posts
Posted on 9/13/24 at 11:19 am to
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Yall are making up for something is all I can say. I don’t think people that are secure act like yall.


you used to be the main mother fricker in here talking about sending troops to taiwan and ukraine

stupid frick

now you want to throw out stupid shite like everyone that doesnt have Putins dick in their mouth has a small penis...

some day you are going to overload your mouth on here and a fellow OM tailgater is gonna find your arse in the grove and slap the frick out of your dumbass.

and im not even a supporter of this fricking war. but you are a flip flopping ole miss fig as usual
Posted by lsu777
Lake Charles
Member since Jan 2004
37983 posts
Posted on 9/13/24 at 11:22 am to
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A DMZ is a stilly solution and kind of a cop out. Say how you would handle the land in question and give us your version of a solution that won't have us back in this same spot in a decade or two.

Its absolutely silly that anyone would still be considering NATO membership for Ukraine though.

"We have to get them in so we can protect them" Then why not just protect them right now?

My house burned down, but at least next time I'll have a fire extinguisher.


agreed

why the frick do we need ukraine in nato...frick them. they are as corrupt as russia

that being said...this war so far as been a good ROI for the US in terms of weakening russia. it has been good foreign policy strictly on ROI

now the human cost has been terrible. insanely costly if you believe in that, which i do. ukraine as a country is screwed for decades.

but I dont think DMZ is the solution either.
Posted by Lee B
Member since Dec 2018
3945 posts
Posted on 9/13/24 at 11:30 am to
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He did but he sent the blankets and 1st aid kits for comfort


If you know the history of our country and the Pentagon and aid to governments or groups we support...

The initial goal is to get "AID" going to them... humanitarian aid and personnel transport vehicles... then, "oh my... did someone mistakenly pack some weapons that can't specifically be traced back to the US in those vehicles or crates? It's so hard to keep track of this stuff!" And that's independent of the CIA's stuff that is not even reported.
Posted by Auburn1968
NYC
Member since Mar 2019
26468 posts
Posted on 9/13/24 at 11:36 am to
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The group went on to attack former President Trump for allegedly setting up President Biden and Harris to fail in Afghanistan. They say the Trump administration negotiated a deal "without involving the Afghan government" and released 5,000 Taliban fighters back onto the battlefield.


That's dem BS. Only Biden and his minions were dumb enough to abandon Afghanistan in the middle of fighting season. All previous draw downs took place in the winter when the Taliban were in Pakistan licking their wounds.

The Afghan commander of Bagram came in for work early in the morning only to discover that the US had bugged out unannounced. It was air power that kept the Afghan army backed up and was integral to their training and tactics.

Yeah, Putin saw his chance.

Posted by Lee B
Member since Dec 2018
3945 posts
Posted on 9/13/24 at 11:38 am to
Dem BS... from retired generals, reported by Fox News?
Posted by Pettifogger
I don't really care, Margaret
Member since Feb 2012
87316 posts
Posted on 9/13/24 at 11:41 am to
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FWIW, it bothers me that Trump referred to Phat Phuck Orban. I want to believe that this is pandering to a part of our voters, with 95% of all voters actually being clueless.



In all seriousness, you can't see how Orban would have at least some appeal to conservative Americans? Really?
Posted by texag7
College Station
Member since Apr 2014
41301 posts
Posted on 9/13/24 at 11:46 am to
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why the frick do we need ukraine in nato


Because if they join NATO they have to conform to all NATO weapons standards which would consist of revamping their entire military.

Who would provide this you may ask? Well good question. That would be Raytheon, Boeing, Northrop Grumman, General Dynamics, Lockheed. All partly owned by Blackrock.

Of course they wouldn’t benefit from Ukraine joining NATO. And any insinuation of that would be crazy!

Trust Zelensky bro
Posted by Dr RC
The Money Pit
Member since Aug 2011
61475 posts
Posted on 9/13/24 at 11:50 am to
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People who think exactly like you are. If 90% of people thought like me about this war, it would have been over by April 2022.




I needed a good laugh this morning.
Posted by CitizenK
BR
Member since Aug 2019
15670 posts
Posted on 9/13/24 at 11:52 am to
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In all seriousness, you can't see how Orban would have at least some appeal to conservative Americans? Really?


Putin owns him 100% lock stock and barrel. Stupid phucker has held up natural gas pipeline being built to tap into what is coming from Azerbaijan, since 2012, and remained 100% dependent on pipelines from Russia going through Ukraine.

Putin's cucks will never get this
Posted by Lee B
Member since Dec 2018
3945 posts
Posted on 9/13/24 at 11:55 am to
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The Afghan commander of Bagram came in for work early in the morning only to discover that the US had bugged out unannounced. It was air power that kept the Afghan army backed up and was integral to their training and tactics.


I agree... the reason the Afghan Army and government collapsed in 6 seconds was that they were reliant on aspects of our military and tech that crippled them the second it was gone. And I blame Biden for going along with whatever or whoever decided that was the course.

quote:

Yeah, Putin saw his chance.


Putin was always going to further invade Ukraine after they refused to be a puppet to him... he was more concerned with the success of campaigns to convince the Ukrainian people to accept him as a Liberator... which he was told had worked (and a lot of FSB people fell out of windows that first week of the invasion when it turned out to be otherwise).

But Putin did believe that the withdrawal from Afghanistan indicated that America was in the same shape as the USSR when they withdrew from Afghanistan... weakened militarily and in resolve and cohesion, and viewing the military as flawed and not all-powerful. But this is where he believes his own misinformation and does not understand America. Russians would revolt if he didn't have a military and security apparatus to keep them in line. He believes America is that same way (which is why Jan 6 is still replayed every day on Russian TV as proof that Americans are trying to overthrow their own government).

So the elephant in the room... do I believe Trump is a Russian asset?

No. He's even better for them... he's someone whose instincts just naturally align with helping Russia. All that's then needed is to plant seeds of ideas in his orbit through people around him or right-wing media... and I think it's proven that a lot of those people are on the take $ from Russia.
Posted by Pettifogger
I don't really care, Margaret
Member since Feb 2012
87316 posts
Posted on 9/13/24 at 11:56 am to
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Putin owns him 100% lock stock and barrel. Stupid phucker has held up natural gas pipeline being built to tap into what is coming from Azerbaijan, since 2012, and remained 100% dependent on pipelines from Russia going through Ukraine.

Putin's cucks will never get this


Ok

Still, many see him as a lone voice in the wilderness in Europe going "Hungary is for Hungarians, we're going to incentivize traditional families, etc."
Posted by Lee B
Member since Dec 2018
3945 posts
Posted on 9/13/24 at 11:57 am to
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In all seriousness, you can't see how Orban would have at least some appeal to conservative Americans? Really?


Is it the strongman appeal?
Posted by Lee B
Member since Dec 2018
3945 posts
Posted on 9/13/24 at 11:58 am to
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Because if they join NATO they have to conform to all NATO weapons standards which would consist of revamping their entire military.


Are you suggesting this isn't happening already?
Posted by CitizenK
BR
Member since Aug 2019
15670 posts
Posted on 9/13/24 at 12:04 pm to
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Still, many see him as a lone voice in the wilderness in Europe going "Hungary is for Hungarians, we're going to incentivize traditional families, etc."


Reality is that he could give a shite less. False bravado to cover up his corruption trying to blame everything on "woke" trying to get him
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