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re: Latest Updates: Russia-Ukraine Conflict

Posted on 4/1/24 at 11:19 am to
Posted by No Colors
Sandbar
Member since Sep 2010
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Posted on 4/1/24 at 11:19 am to
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But I haven't decided whether I will vote for him this year, or whether I will vote 3rd party (which I did in 2016 and 2020). I will not vote for Trump.


Feel the same way. Except I won't vote for either Biden or Trump. Their ages disqualify them for me if nothing else.

I spent about 15 mins on the RFK rabbit hole before dismissing that as well. If Nikki Haley is on the ballot somewhere I'll probably give her my vote. If not then I may skip the Pres race and just vote down ticket
Posted by cypher
Member since Sep 2014
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Posted on 4/1/24 at 11:20 am to
Ukraine repels Russia's largest tank attack since start of full-scale invasion – photo

Yevhen Kizilov — Monday, 1 April 2024, 17:54

Russian forces launched what may have been one of the largest tank attacks on Ukrainian positions since 24 February 2022 on the Avdiivka front on Saturday, 30 March. Having lost a third of their tanks, the Russians made no progress.

Source: Forbes, citing Ukrainian military sources

Quote: "When the smoke cleared, the Russians had left behind – on a road west of the ruins of Avdiivka in eastern Ukraine – a third of their tanks."

Details: Forbes noted that in the weeks leading up to Saturday's assault, the Russians had been using infantry to advance west of the town. The reason was that they lacked vehicles after suffering heavy losses during the assault on Avdiivka in mid-February.

The situation has changed in recent days. Russian troops again used armoured vehicles, including tanks, on the Avdiivka front. As many as 36 tanks and 12 infantry fighting vehicles from Russia's 6th Tank Regiment, which is part of the 90th Tank Division, launched an attack along the road leading from Russian-occupied Tonenke to the Ukrainian-controlled village of Umanske, two miles to the west.

Ukraine's 25th Brigade spotted the convoy and delivered a robust response, hitting 12 tanks and 8 infantry fighting vehicles.

The next day after the assault, Ukraine's Centre for Defence Strategies described the fighting around Tonenke as "positional", meaning that neither side had made significant progress.

Forbes suggests that despite problems with the supply of essential ammunition, Ukrainian brigades are still able to mount a fierce defence using land mines, artillery, anti-tank missiles and attack drones.

Ukrainska Pravda
Posted by SteelerBravesDawg
Member since Sep 2020
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Posted on 4/1/24 at 11:28 am to
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Feel the same way. Except I won't vote for either Biden or Trump. Their ages disqualify them for me if nothing else.

I spent about 15 mins on the RFK rabbit hole before dismissing that as well. If Nikki Haley is on the ballot somewhere I'll probably give her my vote. If not then I may skip the Pres race and just vote down ticket


This is exactly where I stand, also.
Posted by VolSquatch
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Member since Sep 2023
8428 posts
Posted on 4/1/24 at 11:41 am to
Nice reverse melt. Or maybe you’re just too dumb to realize I was insulting the logic of posters like you. Either way, oh well.
Posted by StormyMcMan
USA
Member since Oct 2016
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Posted on 4/1/24 at 11:43 am to
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VolSquatch


You really get your panties in a wad fast for posting on an internet board
Posted by VolSquatch
First Coast
Member since Sep 2023
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Posted on 4/1/24 at 11:44 am to
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Once Russia is seen as weak, there is no way it can defend all of that. Its neighbors will jump in and carve out chunks of territory and lay claim to significant natural resources.


Yall will be wanting to send them billions too
Posted by VolSquatch
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Posted on 4/1/24 at 11:45 am to
I admittedly get flustered by obvious and excessive stupidity. It’s a personal flaw, I’m working on it. Getting better each day
Posted by VolSquatch
First Coast
Member since Sep 2023
8428 posts
Posted on 4/1/24 at 11:46 am to
I couldn’t imagine ever supporting Haley, but given the options I kind of get it
Posted by Coeur du Tigre
It was just outside of Barstow...
Member since Nov 2008
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Posted on 4/1/24 at 12:34 pm to
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On several occasions Trump has stated in interviews that he would give Ukraine the most modern weapons and more than it could use.
Yes, he makes statements like this every week, but what is he actually doing? He's instructing Johnson to block the Ukrainian aid bill.

A.) What Trump says; and

B.) what Trump does.

Posted by soccerfüt
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Member since May 2013
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Posted on 4/1/24 at 12:45 pm to
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I spent about 15 mins on the RFK rabbit hole before dismissing that as well.
15 nanoseconds maybe

I could last longer in Elizabeth Hurley than it should take a human to dismiss that arse clown.
Posted by XenScott
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Member since Oct 2016
4171 posts
Posted on 4/1/24 at 2:16 pm to
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I definitely don't "back" Biden, I detest his LGBT and abortion policies, for example. And his Ukraine policy is one of weakness, compounding the weakness demonstrated in Afghanistan.

But I haven't decided whether I will vote for him this year, or whether I will vote 3rd party (which I did in 2016 and 2020). I will not vote for Trump


This is the most RINO thing ever said on this board. As a matter of fact, this could have came from Liz Cheney.
Posted by ColtRange
Member since May 2023
1002 posts
Posted on 4/1/24 at 2:35 pm to
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This is the most RINO thing ever said on this board. As a matter of fact, this could have came from Liz Cheney.


He's already admitted that he campaigned for her dad, so that's pretty spot on.

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GOP_Tiger


I'm confused how you vote third party the last two elections, disagree with Biden's policies, think this presidency is an abject failure, and yet you're still considering voting for him?
Posted by Auburn1968
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Member since Mar 2019
26931 posts
Posted on 4/1/24 at 2:53 pm to
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That comes from the Russia Collusion Hoax. On several occasions Trump has stated in interviews that he would give Ukraine the most modern weapons and more than it could use.


Trump is a problem solver, not an ideologue. Giving Ukraine what it needs to expel Putin's minions rather than a feeble trickle of this and that is what is needed to get it done.
Posted by WeeWee
Member since Aug 2012
45728 posts
Posted on 4/1/24 at 2:58 pm to
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I know when I see this...things are going really poorly for Ukraine.


quote:

On Saturday, the Russian army launched what may have been one of the largest-scale tank assaults of Russia’s 25-month wider war on Ukraine.

It ended in one of the largest-scale tank massacres of Russia’s 25-month wider war on Ukraine. When the smoke cleared, the Russians had left behind—on a road west of the ruins of Avdiivka in eastern Ukraine—a third of their tanks.


quote:

Thirty-six tanks and 12 BMP fighting vehicles from the Russian army’s 6th Tank Regiment—part of the 90th Tank Division—attacked along a road threading from Russian-occupied Tonen’ke toward the free village of Uman’ske, two miles to the west.

The Ukrainian 25th Brigade spotted the 48-vehicle column—and hit it hard. “Twelve tanks and eight BMPs were taken out,” wrote “Kriegsforscher,” a drone-operator with the Ukrainian 36th Marine Brigade. “Pure madness.”
LINK

Mighty Mother Russia just got kicked in the teeth.
Posted by CitizenK
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Member since Aug 2019
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Posted on 4/1/24 at 3:26 pm to
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I spent about 15 mins on the RFK rabbit hole before dismissing that as well.
15 nanoseconds maybe

I could last longer in Elizabeth Hurley than it should take a human to dismiss that arse clown.



Knowing that he wants to basically shutdown all chemical manufacturing and refining in the USA along with his past support for Fidel Castro and Hugo Chavez, it didn't take me a single nanosecond.
Posted by SneezyBeltranIsHere
Member since Jul 2021
4320 posts
Posted on 4/1/24 at 3:29 pm to
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Ukraine will end up losing a lot of people because Biden was timid and slow-dripped equipment.


The GOP is constantly inventing new ways & excuses to delay/avoid getting weapons to Ukraine.

The Biden administration is jumping through hoops, doing anything and everything to get military aid to Ukraine:

LINK

quote:

The White House has been scrambling to find ways to send more military assistance given the situation on the battlefield and the resistance to the funding from Republican hardliners.


quote:

Pentagon Press Secretary Major General Pat Ryder said the package included anti-aircraft missiles and artillery rounds. He said providing weapons to Ukraine through Pentagon contract savings was likely a one-time situation and not a sustainable way of funding Kyiv.


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U.S. officials have also looked at options for seizing some $285 billion in Russian assets immobilized in 2022 and using the money to pay for Ukraine weaponry.


To blame this on timidity from Biden is to show a complete psychological disconnect from reality that, while not uncommon in this board, is still disturbing.
Posted by No Colors
Sandbar
Member since Sep 2010
13527 posts
Posted on 4/1/24 at 3:31 pm to
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Knowing that he wants to basically shutdown all chemical manufacturing and refining in the USA along with his past support for Fidel Castro and Hugo Chavez, it didn't take me a single nanosecond.



To be accurate, it took me 90 seconds to figure out I wasn't going to vote for him. But then I spent another 13 minutes or so reading through the train wreck of his policies and beliefs in abject horror and fascination. What a nut job.
Posted by bigjoe1
Member since Jan 2024
1948 posts
Posted on 4/1/24 at 3:40 pm to
I think many of us feel he could have done far more earlier.Longer range artillery plus training on f16's in the summer of 2022 for example.
Posted by AU86
Member since Aug 2009
26257 posts
Posted on 4/1/24 at 3:45 pm to
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I'm confused how you vote third party the last two elections, disagree with Biden's policies, think this presidency is an abject failure, and yet you're still considering voting for him?



This x 1000

Biden is a total failure. Corrupt family and incompetent administration. Just look at his foreign policy: Afghanistan, Ukraine, Israel, etc. His border policy and his promotion of degenerate wokeness is weakening this nation. Another four years of this an where will we be?
This post was edited on 4/1/24 at 3:46 pm
Posted by WeeWee
Member since Aug 2012
45728 posts
Posted on 4/1/24 at 4:34 pm to
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The GOP is constantly inventing new ways & excuses to delay/avoid getting weapons to Ukraine.

The Biden administration is jumping through hoops, doing anything and everything to get military aid to Ukraine:



bullshite! The Biden administration is jumping through hoops to make it look like it is aiding Ukraine and jumping through hoops to keep from pissing off Russia. My cousin is an aid for Steve Scalise (you know the HOR majority leader) and I asked her if this past weekend if the Biden administration ever presented Johnson, Scalise, and the other republican leadership with a plan for Ukraine to win the war. She just laughed. They don't have one. They are just throwing stuff against the wall. Even the $60 billion in aid is just random things pulled from the list of things Ukraine asked for. When the supplemental aid package is packed Ukraine still is not going to get enough tanks to go on a major offensive. Enough ATACAMs to really hurt Russia, or enough air defense missiles to close it skies to Russian missiles and planes. It will replenish it stockpiles of missiles but no additional Patriot batteries will be heading to Ukraine. Biden's strategy is to delay a Russian victory until after the election. That is it.
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