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re: Latest Updates: Russia-Ukraine Conflict

Posted on 4/1/24 at 6:40 am to
Posted by SteelerBravesDawg
Member since Sep 2020
43337 posts
Posted on 4/1/24 at 6:40 am to
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Just check the ISW updates or just get your info straight from the Ukucks Colt, they don’t even need those guys. Ukraine has lost like 2 soldiers during the entire war and Russia has lost probably a million, and Putin is gay, retarded, and has brain and arse cancer and will probably croak any day now.

Strange melt.
Posted by StormyMcMan
USA
Member since Oct 2016
4691 posts
Posted on 4/1/24 at 6:49 am to
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ust check the ISW updates or just get your info straight from the Ukucks Colt, they don’t even need those guys. Ukraine has lost like 2 soldiers during the entire war and Russia has lost probably a million, and Putin is gay, retarded, and has brain and arse cancer and will probably croak any day now.


melt much?

This is funny for a few reasons
1) most frequent posters ITT have all stated at one point or another that both Ukraine and Russia have likely had over 100k KIA each with Russia being higher being the aggressor.

2) you're responding to Colt. Both him and Lima have posted how Ukraine has over 650k KIA whereas Russia is under 100k
Posted by No Colors
Sandbar
Member since Sep 2010
13527 posts
Posted on 4/1/24 at 6:58 am to
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The best case scenario for the west at this point is some spineless stooge succeeded Putin and Russia essentially becoming a Chinese vassal state.


Russia has 14 direct land neighbors -- all of whom are adverse to it -- with something like 35,000 miles (not a misprint) of land border. Once Russia is seen as weak, there is no way it can defend all of that. Its neighbors will jump in and carve out chunks of territory and lay claim to significant natural resources.

Russia has been expanding and contracting in fairly predictable cycles for hundreds of years. No reason to think we're not in the midst of another contraction that began in 1990.
Posted by CitizenK
BR
Member since Aug 2019
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Posted on 4/1/24 at 6:59 am to
Russia has an estimated 2-2.5 years left of reserve armor. From Day 1, the Biden Admin has dribbled arms to Ukraine to keep it from decisively winning.

IMO, bleeding Russia dry has been their goal, at the expense of Ukraine.
Posted by No Colors
Sandbar
Member since Sep 2010
13527 posts
Posted on 4/1/24 at 7:01 am to
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Both him and Lima have posted how Ukraine has over 650k KIA whereas Russia is under 100k


Didn't Tucker Carlson say it was 8:1 in Russia's favor?
Posted by No Colors
Sandbar
Member since Sep 2010
13527 posts
Posted on 4/1/24 at 7:08 am to
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bleeding Russia dry has been their goal, at the expense of Ukraine.


Exactly. It's such a weird argument when the Putin Army comes in here accusing posters here of being Ukraine "fan boys" etc. I couldn't give a shite about Ukraine. I want Russia punished for waging an aggressive war. Just like I want every country -- USA included -- punished for waging an aggressive war.

It's glaringly obvious to even the Putin apologists that Putin terribly miscalculated this war. And even ramping up military production can only buy him so much time. He has plenty of men. He can make plenty of artillery shells. But he will mathematically run out of artillery tubes and armored vehicles in another 2 years. Maybe 3 if he holds his army back. Or maybe 1.5 if he goes full tilt. He cannot replace those items as fast as he is consuming them.

And the US intelligence community has the data. And everyone in Washington -- Johnson included -- has the same data. They all know the end game is a Russian bleed out.
Posted by doubleb
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Member since Aug 2006
42764 posts
Posted on 4/1/24 at 7:14 am to
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Russia has probably lost 60k to 80k dead. Ukraine, at minimum around 300k, and figures of 500k are possible.


Complete fiction. You have any reliable sources????
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Ukraine had the second largest army in Europe, and one that had a fair bit combat experience. They also grossly outnumbered the Russian force at the outset of the war. At one point the Russians force was just 125k.


Wrong.

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Mr Zelensky said Russia had positioned almost 200,000 troops and thousands of combat vehicles on Ukraine's borders ahead of Thursday's invasion.


And that didn’t include tge thousands of Russian soldiers in Crimea.
Posted by WeeWee
Member since Aug 2012
45728 posts
Posted on 4/1/24 at 8:00 am to
Has Russia conquered Kyiv yet?
Posted by No Colors
Sandbar
Member since Sep 2010
13527 posts
Posted on 4/1/24 at 8:01 am to
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Medazona found 49k Russian obituaries


In Russia you must pay for an obituary to be run in the local paper. Most of the combat power is drawn from poor, isolated areas of Siberia and the far east . Lots of families are illiterate not to mention don't have the money to run a paid obituary. It's usually the officers and men from populated areas that run obituaries. So that number is a baseline that is probably half of reality.


And then of course there's the "missing". If Russia doesn't retrieve a body, they don't have to pay death benefits. How many tens of thousands lie rotting in no man's land that won't be recovered until this is over, if ever?

And then there's Wagner. Dead Man Cooking admitted to 20,000 prisoners dying in one battle trying to take one city last year.

The number is probbaly 150,000 dead and x2.5 wounded. 500,000 total casualties of which 300,000 will never return to combat.
Posted by ColtRange
Member since May 2023
1002 posts
Posted on 4/1/24 at 8:10 am to
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2) you're responding to Colt. Both him and Lima have posted how Ukraine has over 650k KIA whereas Russia is under 100k


Yeah, I have never said that before.

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Has Russia conquered Kyiv yet?


I know when I see this...things are going really poorly for Ukraine.
Posted by WeeWee
Member since Aug 2012
45728 posts
Posted on 4/1/24 at 8:11 am to
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Russia has an estimated 2-2.5 years left of reserve armor.


That armor is 1950s-1970s armor. Russia is not even upgrading those tanks. They are vulnerable to rpgs and recoilless rifles which Ukraine has plenty of.
Posted by Coeur du Tigre
It was just outside of Barstow...
Member since Nov 2008
4635 posts
Posted on 4/1/24 at 8:21 am to
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Why did Trump suggest publicy that Johnson should structure Ukraine aid as a loan, thus giving Johnson the political cover he needs to get Ukraine funded with MAGA consent?

Because in spite of Trump's best efforts, there are still a few people in the RNC with a grasp of reality. They recognize that Trump's anti-Ukraine (and more significantly, pro-Russian) position is going to cost the GOP in November.

Every US poll taken to date clearly show a minimum of 55 - 60% support for aid to Ukraine. That's across all demographics and is stable under all questionnaire construction. The only consistent segments against this aid are the GOP MAGA wing and the radical left wing. The solid majority of voters between these extremes are the pro-Ukrainian block.

Trump and Johnson are trying to string along voters with constant talk of delays with a Ukrainian aid solution 'coming soon'. But voters can now see through this as nothing but more lies.

The three biggest issues nationally now are abortion, the border and Ukraine. The abortion demographic is split fairly evenly and is extremely stable. Nothing either candidate can do will change that.

But Biden can do something dramatic about the border to give the closed-border voters a reason to vote for him. Like in Sept. / October move the available National Guard units down there. On the other hand, Trump is helpless to change anything on this issue before November.

In regards to Ukraine, Trump has irretrievably lost the pro-Ukrainian electorate. He is clearly the one person that is taking the mantle of 'surrender monkeys' away from the French and giving it to us. There is nothing he can do to change that viewpoint. Any nonsense about loans or adding to the national debt will just make it worse for him. This is where the Democrats will club Trump and more importantly, the downballot Republicans in November. Biden holds all the cards and Trump has maneuvered himself into a corner with no way out on this issue.

Don't get me wrong, I'm not crazy about the Biden White House, especially Jake Sullivan. Another spineless failure going from one disaster to another on the back of his Ivy League degrees. I can't see any way to vote for Biden if Sullivan is still in the White House in November.

Of course, these problems have a way of working themselves out. Let's remember that among Sullivan's many career frick-ups was as one of Hillary Clinton's chief advisers during her 2016 campaign. How did that work out Jake? So Biden may lose yet. But that's a post for another day.
Posted by CitizenK
BR
Member since Aug 2019
16147 posts
Posted on 4/1/24 at 8:22 am to
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That armor is 1950s-1970s armor. Russia is not even upgrading those tanks. They are vulnerable to rpgs and recoilless rifles which Ukraine has plenty of.


Putin has been the best salesman for the US arms industry the last two years. He has also been the worst salesman for the Russian arms industry for the last decade.
Posted by ColtRange
Member since May 2023
1002 posts
Posted on 4/1/24 at 8:27 am to
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He is clearly the one person that is taking the mantle of 'surrender monkeys' away from the French and giving it to us.


That's retarded

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The three biggest issues nationally now are abortion, the border and Ukraine.


Ukraine > inflation? Nah
Posted by AU86
Member since Aug 2009
26257 posts
Posted on 4/1/24 at 9:53 am to
Biden has literally violated his oath and IMO committed treason by allowing the invasion of the border. He is unwilling to defend the US border!!! Imagine the damage that this has brought on this nation and it's citizens. Anyone that places Ukraine's borders over the defense of ours is a fool. Anyone that would vote for a man that willingly allowed this to happen to our own country must hate America. I don't know another way to see this. I can't wrap my mind around how anyone could support this and is unwilling to see this for what it is. This is third term of that pos Obama.

If you support Ukraine, how can anyone defend the Biden policy and actions thus far? It is a miserable failure. He has used Ukraine. He has Ukrainian blood on his hands.
This post was edited on 4/1/24 at 9:58 am
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
42764 posts
Posted on 4/1/24 at 10:10 am to
None of the regulars in this thread back Biden. Now I could be mistaken.

I for one believe the border problem outranks the Ukraine war in importance.
Posted by CitizenK
BR
Member since Aug 2019
16147 posts
Posted on 4/1/24 at 10:40 am to
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They recognize that Trump's anti-Ukraine (and more significantly, pro-Russian) position is going to cost the GOP in November.


That comes from the Russia Collusion Hoax. On several occasions Trump has stated in interviews that he would give Ukraine the most modern weapons and more than it could use.
This post was edited on 4/1/24 at 10:51 am
Posted by RuLSU
Chicago, IL
Member since Nov 2007
8131 posts
Posted on 4/1/24 at 10:45 am to
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I know when I see this...things are going really poorly for Ukraine.

You've convinced me, Ukraine's odds of success are sinking.

The real question is how badly are the Ukrainians sinking. Are they sinking like Venice (2mm per year) or the Russian Black Sea Fleet ( ) ???
Posted by RuLSU
Chicago, IL
Member since Nov 2007
8131 posts
Posted on 4/1/24 at 10:48 am to
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Russia has an estimated 2-2.5 years left of reserve armor. From Day 1, the Biden Admin has dribbled arms to Ukraine to keep it from decisively winning.

IMO, bleeding Russia dry has been their goal, at the expense of Ukraine.

It's been terrible. Ukraine will end up losing a lot of people because Biden was timid and slow-dripped equipment.

IDK where you're seeing 2.5 years left of armor, but we see Russian equipment get older and older as time goes on. If Ukraine gets enough 155mm shells to sustain its defense, we'll see fewer IFV/Tanks and more ATVs.

But whether Ukraine gets enough 155mm shells is the question.
Posted by GOP_Tiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2005
21047 posts
Posted on 4/1/24 at 11:10 am to
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None of the regulars in this thread back Biden. Now I could be mistaken.


I definitely don't "back" Biden, I detest his LGBT and abortion policies, for example. And his Ukraine policy is one of weakness, compounding the weakness demonstrated in Afghanistan.

But I haven't decided whether I will vote for him this year, or whether I will vote 3rd party (which I did in 2016 and 2020). I will not vote for Trump.
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