re: Latest Updates: Russia-Ukraine Conflict

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Why is this stickied now? Did the war escalate or something?

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Because I told them that if they didn’t sticky the thread, I was going to have to leave my keyboard, fly to Ukraine, and grab a rifle.

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Ukraine has passed a million then how many has Russia passed? 60k to 80k dead.

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So the attacker who typically has higher casualties than the defender actually has less casualties than the defender? Not only does the attacker have less, they have more than 10x less casualties than the defenders?



What kind of drugs are you on comrade and where do you buy them?

ETA: How much brain damage did you sustain in the military?

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So the attacker who typically has higher casualties than the defender actually has less casualties than the defender?

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Yes, because of the way they’re fighting, and because the Russians largely shifted to the defense in the fall of 22.

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The first of the four frigates that Turkey is building for the Ukrainian navy is supposed to be finished in the first part of next year. If Ukraine can use it as a mothership for drone attacks things could get interesting.

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Or, they can modify an existing USV to be a tug. Tow the attack USV half way there, for instance, then quick release and the tug returns home. Probably already working on it.

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They hit plenty of places, including a couple factories used for drone production. All of this without killing any civilians.

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He was speaking specifically about Kyiv getting "fricked" in response to Belgorod. Which didn't happen.

If you have proof, I'd love to see it.

The Pentagon estimate that showed up in The NY Times recently was 63k dead IIRC.

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The Pentagon estimate that showed up in The NY Times recently was 63k dead IIRC.

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Where are you getting the millions of casualties for Ukraine from?

ETA: I have researched this over the past few days and if you read the posted screenshots of the documents you will see that ~60,000 KIA is the estimate for the most conservative estimate. Also according to the “internet experts” on various sites, the methodology that the Pentagon used for that estimate only includes the number of KIAs on the battlefield that can be identified as deceased Russians using video and thermal imaging as well as estimates for casualties when equipment is destroyed (i.e 3 KIAs for a destroyed tank). It doesn’t include KIAs that are removed from the battlefield before their body temperature falls or WIA that later die.

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Casualty figures are also listed. One slide refers to as many as 223,000 Russian soldiers killed or wounded, and as many as 131,000 Ukrainians.

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This appears to be the most liberal or highest estimate of KIAs that I have seen in the documents that I have been able to review. I have also not been able to find any reliable information about the methodology for these estimates.

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Yes, because of the way they’re fighting, and because the Russians largely shifted to the defense in the fall of 22.

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Yes, very wise. Using this strategy against the Germans in WW2 saved millions of lives.

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Where are you getting the millions of casualties for Ukraine from?

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If you assume a 3:1 or 4:1 wounded to killed ratio, then your best case scenario is 900k wounded, 300k dead.

So i guess all those videos of mass Russians dead side by side in piles is just fake or created then right? I’m sure they all just stood right back up after the picture was taken. Russians really are the dumbest fricking people walking the planet. Do me a favor and go take a nice warm bath with your favorite bottle of vodka then throw the toaster in there with you. You’ll love it.