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re: Latest Updates: Russia-Ukraine Conflict

Posted on 2/5/24 at 6:36 am to
Posted by beerJeep
Louisiana
Member since Nov 2016
38727 posts
Posted on 2/5/24 at 6:36 am to
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One that many overlook but should really pay attention to is India. They have built up their forces to a formidable level and would be a serious adversary.


their mountaineer units that fight with sticks, stones, and shields with China up in the mountains are legit hilarious
Posted by Bunk Moreland
Member since Dec 2010
69195 posts
Posted on 2/5/24 at 8:54 am to
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Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy said he is thinking about dismissing the country’s top military officer as part of a broader leadership shakeup, a possibility that has shocked the nation fighting a war to end Russia’s invasion and also worried Ukraine’s Western allies.

Zelenskyy confirmed in an interview with Italian broadcaster RAI TV released late Sunday that he was thinking about removing Gen. Valerii Zaluzhnyi, the popular commander-in-chief of Ukraine’s armed forces. He said he was contemplating the move to ensure the country remains led by individuals who are “convinced of victory” against Russia.

“A reset, a new beginning is necessary,” Zelenskyy said. The review is “not about a single person but about the direction of the country’s leadership.”

“I’m thinking about this replacement, but you can’t say here we replaced a single person,” Zelenskyy said. “When we talk about this, I mean a replacement of a series of state leaders, not just in a single sector like the military. If we want to win, we must all push in the same direction, convinced of victory. We cannot be discouraged, let our arms fall. We must have the right positive energy.”

LINK
Posted by Harry Rex Vonner
Foggy Bottom Law School
Member since Nov 2013
50542 posts
Posted on 2/5/24 at 9:37 am to
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It's good to see that people are finally waking up to that fact. It has been clear as the nose on your face for at least a year. Biden and his group of incompetent limp wrists are a disaster. Look at the Afghanistan fiasco.

Ukraine is going to pay a tough price for putting any reliance/trust in that corrupt administration.



Stop trying to backtrack.

US involvement began under Biden, and you supported it more than anyone on this board.

the US began poking Russia in 1997, after James Baker had told Yeltsen around 1992 that NATO would never move one more inch eastward - pretty sure he told Gorbechev too, but Gorbechev has always been a corrupt dick sucking POS, so I don't keep track of everyone Gorbechev has thrown under the bus

you've been told that, and you would not listen, now you've got the nerve to act now, like you weren't then, the little MIC lackey that you are


Stop trying to backtrack
This post was edited on 2/5/24 at 9:40 am
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
42759 posts
Posted on 2/5/24 at 9:48 am to
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the US began poking Russia in 1997, after James Baker had told Yeltsen around 1992 that NATO would never move one more inch eastward - pretty sure he told Gorbechev too, but Gorbechev has always been a corrupt dick sucking POS, so I don't keep track of everyone Gorbechev has thrown under the bus


This never happened.
Posted by TigersnJeeps
FL Panhandle
Member since Jan 2021
2878 posts
Posted on 2/5/24 at 11:38 am to
at some point these will add up... ISW uses this language every day...

quote:

Russian forces made confirmed advances near Bakhmut, Avdiivka, and Marinka amid continued positional engagements along the entire frontline.
Posted by ticklechain
Forgotten coast
Member since Mar 2018
834 posts
Posted on 2/5/24 at 11:43 am to
It didn't?

"Washington D.C., December 12, 2017 – U.S. Secretary of State James Baker’s famous “not one inch eastward” assurance about NATO expansion in his meeting with Soviet leader Mikhail Gorbachev on February 9, 1990, was part of a cascade of assurances about Soviet security given by Western leaders to Gorbachev and other Soviet officials throughout the process of German unification in 1990 and on into 1991, according to declassified U.S., Soviet, German, British and French documents posted today by the National Security Archive at George Washington University (LINK
Posted by StormyMcMan
USA
Member since Oct 2016
4691 posts
Posted on 2/5/24 at 12:52 pm to
Jesus are we back on this shite again.

Yes, not one inch eastward was TALKED about. They realized it was unenforceable and impractical so they REMOVED it from anything that was actually SIGNED. Can we move on now?
Posted by GOP_Tiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2005
21042 posts
Posted on 2/5/24 at 2:07 pm to
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Are you talking about the S-400 which failed to stop western cruise missiles from hitting a shipyard 2 km away from an S-400 battery?


Hey, Turkey decided that getting the S-400 was more valuable than getting the F-35, so there's that, lol.
Posted by WestCoastAg
Member since Oct 2012
150449 posts
Posted on 2/5/24 at 2:15 pm to
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the US began poking Russia in 1997, after James Baker had told Yeltsen around 1992 that NATO would never move one more inch eastward - pretty sure he told Gorbechev too, but Gorbechev has always been a corrupt dick sucking POS, so I don't keep track of everyone Gorbechev has thrown under the bus

seriously

The US broke a treaty with Russia and people still don't think Putin has the right to fight back smh
Posted by ticklechain
Forgotten coast
Member since Mar 2018
834 posts
Posted on 2/5/24 at 2:20 pm to
Sorry never saw a discussion. Legit question. Why was it unenforceable?
Posted by Chromdome35
Fast lane, behind a slow driver
Member since Nov 2010
8186 posts
Posted on 2/5/24 at 2:39 pm to
quote:

The US broke a treaty with Russia and people still don't think Putin has the right to fight back



What TREATY did we break? Please provide a direct link.

Do you understand the difference between a conversation and a formal treaty?

Posted by GOP_Tiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2005
21042 posts
Posted on 2/5/24 at 3:45 pm to
Look at who you are replying to, and then turn the dial on your sarcasm meter to 11.
Posted by Tiger985
Member since Nov 2006
7712 posts
Posted on 2/5/24 at 3:48 pm to
Could we please get back to discussing the big Ukraine spring offensive with the Leopards and all that?

Either that or move this thread to the political board.
Posted by Hateradedrink
Member since May 2023
4156 posts
Posted on 2/5/24 at 4:05 pm to
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the US began poking Russia in 1997


actually the U.S. began poking Russia in 1947 when we basically told them to eat shite because they’re communist assholes. It was called the Truman Doctrine.


What has followed since then has been a series of Russia and the U.S. poking each other for 70 years.

You should read a history book sometime; some pretty wild stuff in there.
Posted by cypher
Member since Sep 2014
5740 posts
Posted on 2/5/24 at 4:11 pm to
Ukraine war latest: Netherlands to send 6 more F-16s to Ukraine

by The Kyiv Independent news desk February 5, 2024 11:01 PM

Key developments on Feb. 5:

Netherlands to send 6 more F-16 jets to Ukraine

Finnish plant to hike ammunition production fivefold due to Russia's war in Ukraine

Russian attacks on cities, settlements increased by 25 percent last week

Authorities ban foreign humanitarian workers from parts of Kherson Oblast

Russia claims senior official killed in alleged attack on occupied Lysychansk.

The Kyiv Independent
Posted by RuLSU
Chicago, IL
Member since Nov 2007
8131 posts
Posted on 2/5/24 at 5:02 pm to
It's a shame Ukraine is struggling with 155mm artillery shell shortages as they're nearing completion of F-16 training.
Posted by StormyMcMan
USA
Member since Oct 2016
4691 posts
Posted on 2/5/24 at 6:03 pm to
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ticklechain


LINK
Posted by cypher
Member since Sep 2014
5740 posts
Posted on 2/5/24 at 6:54 pm to
here is the summary of the national security supplemental being put forth in the senate.

1/19 Emergency National Security Supplemental Appropriations Act, 2024 Summary

TITLE I - Department of Defense
Assistance to Ukraine .
Provides $48.43 billion for continued U.S. support to Ukraine in its fight against Russia through
military training, intelligence sharing, increased presence in the European Command area of
responsibility, and other support activities through December 31, 2024—including:
• $19.85 billion to replenish U.S. military weapons and equipment provided to Ukraine
from Department of Defense (DoD) inventory;
• $13.8 billion to allow Ukraine to re-arm itself through the purchase of weapons and
munitions from the U.S. defense industrial base; and
• $14.8 billion for continued U.S. support to Ukraine through military training, intelligence
sharing, increased presence, and other support activities.
The bill also includes $8 million for the DoD Inspector General (IG), who serves as the Special
IG for Operation Atlantic Resolve, to continue to exercise oversight over U.S. assistance to
Ukraine.
Posted by LSUPilot07
Member since Feb 2022
8662 posts
Posted on 2/5/24 at 8:25 pm to
They aren’t near finishing though. Even the 6 pilots that Ukraine has above everyone as far as being ready will be ready this summer at the earliest. You’ll start to see the 2nd group behind them of about 10 guys is in the UK. Then you have rest in Belgium or Romania. Ukraine is going to be flying just those 6 F-16 pilots for several months alone.
Posted by Auburn1968
NYC
Member since Mar 2019
26928 posts
Posted on 2/5/24 at 9:06 pm to
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They aren’t near finishing though. Even the 6 pilots that Ukraine has above everyone as far as being ready will be ready this summer at the earliest. You’ll start to see the 2nd group behind them of about 10 guys is in the UK. Then you have rest in Belgium or Romania. Ukraine is going to be flying just those 6 F-16 pilots for several months alone.


I'm surprised that experienced pilots take that long to adapt to a new aircraft. My father flew so many from the time he was 14 until he retired working to keep Army air from killing itself.

Loved helicopters. I only head him complain about Lancasters because everything was backwards.
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