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re: Latest Updates: Russia-Ukraine Conflict
Posted on 2/3/24 at 11:27 am to Lima Whiskey
Posted on 2/3/24 at 11:27 am to Lima Whiskey
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The drones aren't being launched from Ukraine, if that's what you're thinking? They're being launched from inside of Russia. Ukraine sends saboteurs over the border.
You're wrong. Tell your comrades to get ready.
Ukraine’s new long-range strike drone a real threat to Russia – expert interview
Posted on 2/3/24 at 11:50 am to RuLSU
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If true, Zelensky is digging his own grave, politically and potentially literally.
That may not be factual. Zaluzhny was definitely the guy for the first months but may not be the right guy for more surgical offensive operations.
Posted on 2/3/24 at 1:03 pm to GOP_Tiger
There should be far more special forces raids on high value targets in Russia. Ukrainian commandos are obviously skilled. I would cause as much trouble behind the lines while at the same time regularly launching long range kamikaze drones like the cheap ones Ukraine is making out of cardboard with a 750 km range all
the while digging defenses along the entire line and waiting for more aid to come in, which it will.
The deal needs to be made to bail out the EU promise of a million shells by March which they will be lucky to hit by Christmas now. Make the Czech deal to get 450,000 shells to Ukraine with the caveat that there might not be another delivery of artillery ammo for awhile so don’t burn through it at 7,000-10,000 a day like Russia, they just can’t. If they played full defense and had good defense lines firing 3,000 shells it would give Ukraine enough ammo to get to summer and give time for factories to produce more shells. Then I would do every deal with every country that has old soviet equipment wether it be tanks, APCs, BMPs or air defense systems and I would buy them out or ofer a deal for them. Ukraine will still get western gear and vehicles but they need everything they can get and their mechanics know soviet vehicles well and their soldiers know how to operate them.
The last part would be I would continue hitting every target in Crimea I could wether it be by cruise missile or sea drone. Ukraine has to show the Russian people by the use of force that they will lose hundred of thousands more lives on top of the dead already to continue Putin’s nostalgic dream of reforming the Soviet Union’s old borders.
On a side not, I can’t wait to see how Ukraine integrates its Mig-29s, Su-27s and Su-25s the F-16s that are coming. It’s going to be a big hodgepodge of different aircraft but I bet they deploy them in a very interesting way.
the while digging defenses along the entire line and waiting for more aid to come in, which it will.
The deal needs to be made to bail out the EU promise of a million shells by March which they will be lucky to hit by Christmas now. Make the Czech deal to get 450,000 shells to Ukraine with the caveat that there might not be another delivery of artillery ammo for awhile so don’t burn through it at 7,000-10,000 a day like Russia, they just can’t. If they played full defense and had good defense lines firing 3,000 shells it would give Ukraine enough ammo to get to summer and give time for factories to produce more shells. Then I would do every deal with every country that has old soviet equipment wether it be tanks, APCs, BMPs or air defense systems and I would buy them out or ofer a deal for them. Ukraine will still get western gear and vehicles but they need everything they can get and their mechanics know soviet vehicles well and their soldiers know how to operate them.
The last part would be I would continue hitting every target in Crimea I could wether it be by cruise missile or sea drone. Ukraine has to show the Russian people by the use of force that they will lose hundred of thousands more lives on top of the dead already to continue Putin’s nostalgic dream of reforming the Soviet Union’s old borders.
On a side not, I can’t wait to see how Ukraine integrates its Mig-29s, Su-27s and Su-25s the F-16s that are coming. It’s going to be a big hodgepodge of different aircraft but I bet they deploy them in a very interesting way.
This post was edited on 2/3/24 at 1:09 pm
Posted on 2/3/24 at 1:58 pm to LSUPilot07
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The fact that Budanov, the guy Zelensky really wants as the face of Ukraine’s military, turned it down should be all Zelensky needed to know. Budanov is right where he needs to be in intelligence and special ops, not worrying about broad front situations or talking with other heads of friendly militaries. He making a big mistake firing a general that is liked by pretty much all. It’s all over mobilization numbers. Zaluzhny wants 500,000, Zelenskyy 70,00. I say come to a compromise of 175,000 to 200,000 men and put this to drama to an end.
I disagree that it's all about mobilization. I think it's more accurate to say that mobilization was the final straw that broke the camel's back. And Budanov has been just as vocal as Zaluzhny that 400-500k mobilization is needed.
I think that Zelensky's problems with Zaluzhny include several other things:
* The perception among some that Zaluzhny is working behind the scenes to build a political operation that could ultimately oppose Zelensky.
* Communication issues between Zelensky and Zaluzhny. This goes back well over a year, but it's clear that the two men do not get along and the chain of command is unclear. Zelensky has been known to work around Zaluzhny and directly give orders to generals on the battlefield. With Zelensky lacking confidence in Zaluzhny, it damages military cohesion.
* The failed counteroffensive. On the one hand, people like our WeeWee will say that Zelensky succumbed to political pressure and pushed the military into beginning the counteroffensive before it was ready.
But on the other hand, the design flaws of the offensive are clearly visible in retrospect.
1) It was senseless to waste significant manpower and equipment in the attempt to retake Bakhmut. That should only have been attempted if they were extremely confident of success (obviously not). If those forces had been employed in the south, it's certainly possible that the Ukrainian advance in that sector could have been significantly greater, and the increased strain on Russian supply lines would have altered the entire logistical battle.
2) The decision to attack exactly where Russia expected (in the Robotyne area), where Russia had the deepest minefields and fortifications, and where Russia had positioned its best defenders? That was obviously a poor decision.
3) The attack in the Robotyne was led by the newly-formed and untested 47th brigade. While I certainly understand why Zaluzhny made the decision to give all the new Western equipment to newly-formed brigades, it was disastrous, as the lack of combat experience doomed the offensive to failure. If a brigade such as Azov had instead been given Bradleys and Leopards and trained on them and been employed in Robotyne, then I'm confident that they would've enjoyed much more success.
Personally, I fail to see much evidence for military greatness in Zaluzhny. On the other hand, who would replace him? Budanov would be out of his element and is likely not ready for such a role. Gen. Syrsky could certainly be a candidate, but he's a bit of a jerk and is disliked by the rank and file.
Posted on 2/3/24 at 6:17 pm to LSUPilot07
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Zaluzhny wants 500,000, Zelenskyy 70,00. I say come to a compromise of 175,000 to 200,000 men and put this to drama to an end. 175,000 new men would be more than enough to help build up ground down units and even start a few new brigades.
Ukraine needs more than a few new brigades. Last summer's counteroffensive showed that western equipment and western tactics can't pierce the Russian defenses. Ukraine is going to have to resort to slow and steady advances using Soviet style tactics to break the Russian defenses. That is going to cost a lot of men. I do not know if 500,000 is the right number or not, but I do know that Ukraine needs enough soldiers to sustain the losses, be able to defend the rest of the fronts, and exploit a breakthrough when/if it is ever achieved. My sauce(s) in Ukraine believe that the West especially the USA under the Biden administration just want to keep Ukraine from losing until after 2025 or 2026 when NATO has had enough time to rearm and Biden can avoid a foreign policy embarrassment before this November's election. They do not believe the West actually cares if Ukraine regains its territory or not. My sauce(s) in Ukraine believe that Zelensky is listening too much to American and NATO leaders and not listening to his own military and it will cost Ukraine the war in the long term. Unfortunately I agree with them.
Posted on 2/3/24 at 7:05 pm to cypher
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That is an extremely small footprint and not sure how much actual damage that caused which isn't easily repairable.
I'm impressed with their long range drone progress. In May of 2023 all they could do was scratch the Kremlin roof with a drone. Now, less than 9 months later, they are conducting 1 or 2 refinery strikes per week hundreds of Km away.
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The Swiss Company Destinus has been secretly sending hundreds of drones to Ukraine ???? every month, according to the company CEO. Destinus plans to build a factory in Ukraine (Challenges)
Destinus's CEO is Mikhail Kokorich who is a Russian who renounced his Russian citizenship because of the war. The dude definitely knows drones and rockets and stuff. It does not hurt for Ukraine to have one of Russia's best minds on their side.
Posted on 2/4/24 at 6:24 am to CitizenK
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That is an extremely small footprint and not sure how much actual damage that caused which isn't easily repairable.
Long ago I worked for BASF and visited their Ludwigshafen site a few times. They still had engineers that were at Ludwigshafen during WWII and hearing about it was fascinating. We bombed the hell out of Ludwigshafen - in Churchill's bunker there is a display that shows that the US dropped more bombs on Ludwigshafen than on Berlin. What the BASF engineers told me is that fixing the plants really wasn't that difficult. The piping is designed for high pressure service, mostly, and it took a direct hit to do any serious damage. They usually had the plants up and going in a day or two. The big problem they had was that the bombing also targeted the housing for the plant operators and killed them faster than they could train them. By the end of the war they had a hard time running the plants mostly because of the lack of capable operators.
I agree with you that for most of these drone strikes the damage can be repaired fairly quickly (but not always). But I think the main point is to force Russia to spread their air defense over a huge area which then thins it out at the front and allows a better chance to hit military targets in the combat zones.
Posted on 2/4/24 at 6:58 am to Tigris
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I agree with you that for most of these drone strikes the damage can be repaired fairly quickly (but not always). But I think the main point is to force Russia to spread their air defense over a huge area which then thins it out at the front and allows a better chance to hit military targets in the combat zones.
Crude units don't have high pressure piping, due they operate at just above atmospheric pressure but they are insulated, just as all the equipment is except for condensers. The vacuum column operates as the name signifies. Generally, there is a crude column to initial fractionation, a diesel column, a kerosene column, and a stabilizer column for the naphtha. Along with this is a vacuum column for a secondary split of the crude bottoms. Since this is likely an intermediate of heavy crude feed, I doubt that there is a first preflash column. Steam would be at a higher pressure though, as used to turn turbine driven pumps.
You are correct that piping is more easily prepared if equipment is not damaged directly.
Since the plant was modernized, there would damage to process control cables and of course electricity.
Posted on 2/4/24 at 7:34 am to CitizenK
British Defence Intelligence
INTELLIGENCE UPDATE
UPDATE ON UKRAINE 4 February 2024
It is highly likely that fewer than 1,000 Russian Wagner mercenaries remain in Belarus. They have been present in the country since June 2023, at which point there were 8,000 Wagner mercenaries. Wagner almost certainly continues to provide training to Belarusian military and security forces.
It is unlikely that Belarusian President Aleksandr Lukashenko would use the Wagner mercenaries beyond their current remit. They are involved in the training of Ministry of Interior troops but are highly unlikely to participate directly in maintaining domestic or border security in Belarus. The continued presence of Wagner mercenaries in Belarus almost certainly also benefits Russia's war effort by compelling Ukraine to maintain defensive positions and personnel along its northern border with Belarus to protect from potential future incursions.
INTELLIGENCE UPDATE
UPDATE ON UKRAINE 4 February 2024
It is highly likely that fewer than 1,000 Russian Wagner mercenaries remain in Belarus. They have been present in the country since June 2023, at which point there were 8,000 Wagner mercenaries. Wagner almost certainly continues to provide training to Belarusian military and security forces.
It is unlikely that Belarusian President Aleksandr Lukashenko would use the Wagner mercenaries beyond their current remit. They are involved in the training of Ministry of Interior troops but are highly unlikely to participate directly in maintaining domestic or border security in Belarus. The continued presence of Wagner mercenaries in Belarus almost certainly also benefits Russia's war effort by compelling Ukraine to maintain defensive positions and personnel along its northern border with Belarus to protect from potential future incursions.
Posted on 2/4/24 at 8:00 am to cypher
ANALYSIS: Small Drones, Big Booms, Destroyed Russian Tanks
The Battle of Novomykhailivka was important because it confirmed that yes, in Ukraine we are witnessing a military technological revolution. Right now.
by Stefan Korshak | February 4, 2024, 3:24 pm
The (latest) Battle of Novomykhailivka for me was important because it confirmed, with sufficient data that I can point to it and use what the data shows to back up my conclusion, that yes, in Ukraine we are witnessing a military technological revolution. Right now.
Small drones carrying explosives have become so ubiquitous, and so cheap, and operators are becoming so practiced, that we can see that technology, at this very moment, on real battlefields with real battlefield results, supplanting conventional (and often orders-of-magnitude more expensive) weapons like anti-tank missiles, mortars, aircraft firing precision-guided munitions and, to a lesser extent, even artillery.
Now for the qualifications.
I’m not to the point of declaring we are watching a tech change on par with the introduction of the tank. Not yet anyway. It’s apples and oranges when you start talking ranges, and likewise size of explosion. Conventional artillery obviously isn’t going to get replaced if you need a massive explosion in a general area more than, say, three kilometers behind the front lines.
There is also a section at the end where he discusses the ongoing Zelensky - Zaluzhny tension.
The Kyiv Post
The Battle of Novomykhailivka was important because it confirmed that yes, in Ukraine we are witnessing a military technological revolution. Right now.
by Stefan Korshak | February 4, 2024, 3:24 pm
The (latest) Battle of Novomykhailivka for me was important because it confirmed, with sufficient data that I can point to it and use what the data shows to back up my conclusion, that yes, in Ukraine we are witnessing a military technological revolution. Right now.
Small drones carrying explosives have become so ubiquitous, and so cheap, and operators are becoming so practiced, that we can see that technology, at this very moment, on real battlefields with real battlefield results, supplanting conventional (and often orders-of-magnitude more expensive) weapons like anti-tank missiles, mortars, aircraft firing precision-guided munitions and, to a lesser extent, even artillery.
Now for the qualifications.
I’m not to the point of declaring we are watching a tech change on par with the introduction of the tank. Not yet anyway. It’s apples and oranges when you start talking ranges, and likewise size of explosion. Conventional artillery obviously isn’t going to get replaced if you need a massive explosion in a general area more than, say, three kilometers behind the front lines.
There is also a section at the end where he discusses the ongoing Zelensky - Zaluzhny tension.
The Kyiv Post
Posted on 2/4/24 at 8:31 am to cypher
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The (latest) Battle of Novomykhailivka for me was important because it confirmed, with sufficient data that I can point to it and use what the data shows to back up my conclusion, that yes, in Ukraine we are witnessing a military technological revolution. Right now.
Maybe, the caveat is poor Russian tank formations which seem to be columns with tanks bunched up rather than spaced out.
While drones are taking out tanks, they are also disabling then artillery pounds the no longer mobile formation to smithereens..
Posted on 2/4/24 at 8:38 am to cypher
quote:Nominated for “Understatement of the Year”.
It is likely that corruption significantly undermines the effectiveness of the Russian military. There is only a remote chance that significant progress will be made in reducing corruption levels.
Posted on 2/4/24 at 10:06 am to WeeWee
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My sauce(s) in Ukraine believe that the West especially the USA under the Biden administration just want to keep Ukraine from losing until after 2025 or 2026 when NATO has had enough time to rearm and Biden can avoid a foreign policy embarrassment before this November's election. They do not believe the West actually cares if Ukraine regains its territory or not.
100%
Posted on 2/4/24 at 10:48 am to WeeWee
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Biden administration just want to keep Ukraine from losing until after 2025 or 2026
More like until November 2024 election. After the election, no party/president will want Ukraine to fall under their watch. If one party controls the legislature and the presidency, then they'll want Ukraine to be victorious under their watch.
Posted on 2/4/24 at 10:51 am to CitizenK
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After the election, no party/president will want Ukraine to fall under their watch. I
Biden wants Ukraine support as an election issue this year. And he should. It's one place where his policy has strong popular support. And Trump is working from a far less popular position.
Posted on 2/4/24 at 3:12 pm to No Colors
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Biden wants Ukraine support as an election issue this year. And he should. It's one place where his policy has strong popular support. And Trump is working from a far less popular position.
Trump always leaves an out. He has stated in two separate major media interviews that he would give Ukraine modern weapons and more off them than they could use if Russia didn't negotiate in good faith. He also knows that his core base of support will buy whatever he sells to them. The GOP legislators are overwhelmingly in favor of the present or future admin presenting a plan to defeat Russia. Otherwise, they don't want to just throw money at an inevitable victory over a decade or two for Russia.
Posted on 2/4/24 at 3:51 pm to CitizenK
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The GOP legislators are overwhelmingly in favor of the present or future admin presenting a plan to defeat Russia.
According to my cousin who works for Steve Scalise the administration doesn’t have a plan to help Ukraine win. They are just wanting to spend more money to help delay defeat. According to my sauce(s) in Ukraine western advisors are being handicapped by this. My sauce in Ukrainian intelligence said they are growing frustrated because they know that they have to spend 2024 building up a large army and training it so it’s not just a bunch of conscripts holding AKs on the front line, but Zelensky is listening to the Americans who are telling him just to increase the size of the army by < 100,000 to hold Russia at bay and eventually the sanctions will make Russia collapse. That might happen but it should be plan B or even plan D for how to win the war not plan A.
Posted on 2/4/24 at 4:11 pm to GOP_Tiger
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2) The decision to attack exactly where Russia expected (in the Robotyne area), where Russia had the deepest minefields and fortifications, and where Russia had positioned its best defenders? That was obviously a poor decision.
What is needed is a far better means of de-mining those static defenses. Perhaps, a swarm of ground drones could be equipped to detect mines and deposit a little explosive on each one it finds to all be remotely triggered prior to an attack.
Posted on 2/4/24 at 4:14 pm to WeeWee
Our policy is being lead by the "master mind" who surrendered Afghanistan in the dumbest time and way possible.
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