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re: Latest Updates: Russia-Ukraine Conflict

Posted on 8/31/23 at 7:11 am to
Posted by No Colors
Sandbar
Member since Sep 2010
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Posted on 8/31/23 at 7:11 am to
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you understand how anything works or is it just emoting all the way down?


He knows. He's just trolling.
Posted by CitizenK
BR
Member since Aug 2019
15671 posts
Posted on 8/31/23 at 8:09 am to
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He knows. He's just trolling.


Nah, he lies. Like the time he was all, "I know a guy who married a Ukrainian..." When I mentioned his first name and that he was all, "Mever ever saw any sign of Nazis in Ukraine and Slava Ukraine." Stout STFU.
Posted by NOLATiger163
Insane State of NOLA
Member since Aug 2018
620 posts
Posted on 8/31/23 at 8:50 am to
In the category of: consider the source:



Direct link: https://www.tigerdroppings.com/rant/o-t-lounge/it-happened-again-re-me-thinking-dylan-mulvaney-was-a-pretty-girl/108965228/

So that sheds a little light on SirWinston's posts here.
Posted by WeeWee
Member since Aug 2012
45551 posts
Posted on 8/31/23 at 10:45 am to
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Hey guys just curious about how much money do you all think we send to Ukraine as relief from Hurricane Idalia?



tree fiddy trillion in BRICS currency
Posted by WeeWee
Member since Aug 2012
45551 posts
Posted on 8/31/23 at 10:55 am to
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or ride the high ground almost to the Sea of Azov



That would allow Ukraine to break the Russian land bridge to Crimea without facing the heaviest of the defenses which are around Melitpolol. That would also cut the Russian forces in half and prevent Russia from reinforcing or supplying the Zap oblast. Especially if Ukraine uses its newly modified Neptune missiles to knock out the Kerch Straits Bridge and the rail ferry facilites in Berdyansk and Kerch.
Posted by StormyMcMan
USA
Member since Oct 2016
4669 posts
Posted on 8/31/23 at 11:35 am to
Ukrainian Counteroffensive Pierces Main Russian Defensive Line in Southeast(WSJ)

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Describing the advance, the Ukrainian officer held up three fingers representing lines of attack through entrenched Russian positions on the western flank of Verbove, an agricultural village of some 1,000 residents before the war. The significance of the advance is that it marks the first time Ukraine has penetrated the main Russian defensive line, an extensive system of minefields, trenches and antitank obstacles covered by artillery.

Ukrainian forces are now working to expand the cracks in the line to create a hole large enough for Western-provided armored vehicles to push through with sufficient logistical support.

“It’s like inflating a ball,” the officer said.


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Ukrainian advances in recent days have led to cautious optimism among Western intelligence services that Ukraine can retake the occupied city of Tokmak, a logistical hub for Russia, according to senior Western intelligence officials.

To be sure, there are still serious obstacles to turning the current penetration into a full-fledged breach. Russia is targeting Ukrainian troops there with heavy artillery fire directed by aerial drones, and there is no sign of a collapse in Russian lines. Russia appears to be sending reinforcements, including paratroopers, to help hold their positions.

Any breakthrough would be a major boost for Ukraine’s three-month-old counteroffensive, which has turned into a grinding, field-by-field advance rather than the lightning operation that Kyiv and its allies had envisaged.


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The advance is facing fierce resistance. The Ukrainian officer said the Russians were so well dug in that his men found carpets and pictures hung on the walls of dugouts that they captured. They are facing elite Russian forces, including the 7th Guards Air Assault Division.

Russia is targeting Ukrainian troops and vehicles using heavy artillery fire guided by aerial drones and explosive drones directed from the ground by pilots wearing video goggles. In some places, there are so many drones flying that the Ukrainians call the phenomenon “Boryspil,” after the country’s main international airport in Kyiv.

U.S.-supplied cluster bombs are having a significant impact, soldiers said. Ukrainians on the offensive are using the munitions—which release dozens of smaller bomblets and can cause devastation over a broader area than ordinary artillery shells—to target Russian troops running across open ground, either to flee or to provide reinforcements.


Posted by LSUPilot07
Member since Feb 2022
8596 posts
Posted on 8/31/23 at 12:13 pm to
BAE Systems and Ukraine have signed a contract to set up a production facility in country to produce the L119 105 mm light howitzer. These have been of great use to Ukraine especially as they advance since they are deadly accurate and are quick to set up or move while only needing a Humvee to pull the gun instead of a 2 1/2 ton truck that most towed artillery requires.

LINK
Posted by ned nederlander
Member since Dec 2012
5895 posts
Posted on 8/31/23 at 12:28 pm to
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My question is where does the 82nd go from here? Would they try to push north of the town and collapse Russians positions to the north of the Russian fortified line in that area, dramatically widening the salient, or would they try to skirt the town to the south and push further south? I'm thinking that it's the former.


I think Ukraine at this point flows wherever they find a weakness. It’s a terrible way to conduct on field operations, but simply Ukraine can’t end this offensive banging its head against a Russian wall and needs to somewhat avoid risk.

Ukraine wants to retake all of their territory. Ukraine can’t accomplish that in 2023. Ukraine needs continued robust support from the West to continue offensive operations in 2024 and achieve its ultimate goal. That support is best ensured by retaking land wherever they can and avoiding any major losses of men and equipment to conclude this offensive.
Posted by cypher
Member since Sep 2014
5645 posts
Posted on 8/31/23 at 12:48 pm to
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Ukraine uses its newly modified Neptune missiles


Given the advertised 250 mile range, all of Crimea, Rostov-on-Don, Krasnador, Novorossiysk are within range.
Posted by lsuoilengr
Member since Aug 2008
5434 posts
Posted on 8/31/23 at 1:09 pm to
Honestly this entire conflict is so damn depressing. USA and Russia should be Alliies. I have a ton of Russian friends and they are all great people. Same with Iran tbh. It’s almost like politicians are the ones friggin up this whole situation
Posted by GOP_Tiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2005
20967 posts
Posted on 8/31/23 at 2:28 pm to
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Honestly this entire conflict is so damn depressing. USA and Russia should be Alliies. I have a ton of Russian friends and they are all great people. Same with Iran tbh. It’s almost like politicians are the ones friggin up this whole situation



I mean, yes, the whole world should be at peace. Nations should resolve their differences peacefully, instead of invading their neighbors.

But the problem with blaming only "the politicians" is that Putin enjoys massive public support in Russia. Most of the Russian public supports the war, because they long for the old days of Russian empire. Blaming only Putin and leaving the Russian public out of the equation won't work.
Posted by XenScott
Pensacola
Member since Oct 2016
4152 posts
Posted on 8/31/23 at 3:22 pm to
Our sticking our noses in the business of Ukraine in 2014 didn't help either.
Posted by ColtRange
Member since May 2023
1002 posts
Posted on 8/31/23 at 3:41 pm to
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Honestly this entire conflict is so damn depressing. USA and Russia should be Alliies. I have a ton of Russian friends and they are all great people. Same with Iran tbh. It’s almost like politicians are the ones friggin up this whole situation


I only know two Russians, an old couple who runs a local store and they're two of the nicest people I have ever met. The only recent president who didn't treat the Russians like shite was impeached for "Russian collusion". It could be an incredible alliance for numerous reasons but politicians and decades of brainwashing have led us to hot takes like these (which are shared by a majority of participants in this thread)




We have no problem being allies with Germany and Japan...but Russia is the devil. Not denying stuff happened in the past but continuously stoking this resentment is beyond pointless and is of no benefit to Americans.
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
42606 posts
Posted on 8/31/23 at 3:54 pm to
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Our sticking our noses in the business of Ukraine in 2014 didn't help either.


We had been in Ukraine’s business a couple of decades before then. So was Russia. We didn’t invade, Russia did.
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
42606 posts
Posted on 8/31/23 at 4:00 pm to
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We have no problem being allies with Germany and Japan...but Russia is the devil.


Did Germany and Japan “capture” nations post WWII?
Did Germany or Japan oppose the United Nations in Korea and kill Americans?
Did Germany or Japan threaten send their military into foreign nations to subdue them after WWII?
Did Germany or Japan arm themselves to the teeth and build a nuclear Arsenal and aim it at the US?

There are plenty of Reasons to hate Russia and Russia is proving that in Ukraine.
Posted by TheOtherWhiteMeat
Fort Smith
Member since Nov 2009
20654 posts
Posted on 8/31/23 at 4:06 pm to
I know just 2 Russians, very good people. One I use to date. Both have a distaste for what Russia has done. They're both American citizens now and they both want the US to enter the war. A little too much for my taste.
Posted by Dr RC
The Money Pit
Member since Aug 2011
61475 posts
Posted on 8/31/23 at 4:12 pm to
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Our sticking our noses in the business of Ukraine in 2014 didn't help either.


So if Mexico ousts their president and we don't like the new guy b/c he's too friendly w/Putin and Xi we are justified in invading and occupying Baja California, Sonora, and Chihuahua?
This post was edited on 8/31/23 at 4:16 pm
Posted by ned nederlander
Member since Dec 2012
5895 posts
Posted on 8/31/23 at 4:16 pm to
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We have no problem being allies with Germany and Japan


It’s amazing what happens when you fully commit to being a liberal, Democratic society.

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Not denying stuff happened in the past


When is the past for you? You think the west should have been pals with Kruschev or Brezhnev? I assume Stalin is in the past?

Russia is currently governed by a 20+ year dictator and invades neighboring countries in wars of conquest. The Russian head of state wants to bring back the past and all that happening stuff.

This is why people say you troll the thread. Which is a shame because you post some good info. But then can’t distinguish 1950 - present Germany/Japan with 1950 - present Russia?
Posted by TheOtherWhiteMeat
Fort Smith
Member since Nov 2009
20654 posts
Posted on 8/31/23 at 4:17 pm to
Hell yes, all of Mexico, they have resources (kind of a joke).
Posted by GeauxxxTigers23
TeamBunt General Manager
Member since Apr 2013
62514 posts
Posted on 8/31/23 at 4:28 pm to
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We have no problem being allies with Germany and Japan


Meh, Germany sucks. I think we ought to kick them out of NATO
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