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re: Latest Updates: Russia-Ukraine Conflict

Posted on 8/31/23 at 7:11 pm to
Posted by nitwit
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Posted on 8/31/23 at 7:11 pm to
I suggest they have used and negotiated KGB and FSB. Those places are not exactly nurseries for entrepreneurs.
Posted by crazy4lsu
Member since May 2005
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Posted on 8/31/23 at 7:12 pm to
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Yet they are the product of the KGB and FSB.



Yeah, but geopolitics exists outside ideology. Power is power and operates the same way.
Posted by StormyMcMan
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Posted on 8/31/23 at 8:00 pm to
ISW Update

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Ukrainian forces continued counteroffensive operations near Bakhmut in Donetsk Oblast and in western Zaporizhia Oblast on August 31 and reportedly advanced in both sectors of the front. The Ukrainian General Staff and Ukrainian Deputy Defense Minister Hanna Malyar reported that Ukrainian forces continued offensive operations in the Bakhmut and Melitopol (western Zaporizhia Oblast) directions and achieved unspecified success in the direction of Novodanylivka-Novoprokopivka (5km to 13km south of Orikhiv) in western Zaporizhia Oblast

Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky highlighted Ukraine’s domestic production of long-range missiles on August 31, likely as part of a coordinated Ukrainian campaign promoting increased Ukrainian strike capabilities against Russian deep rear areas. Zelensky stated that a Ukrainian-produced long-range weapon successfully hit a target 700 kilometers away, but did not provide further details about the strike or the weapon.

Russian authorities arrested a notable fringe ultranationalist Russian milblogger on accusations of discrediting the Russian military, likely as part of centralized efforts to silence some critical milblogger voices without prompting a general backlash. Russian authorities arrested Andrei Kurshin, who reportedly runs the Telegram channel “Moscow Calling,” on August 31 but did not specify what content Kurshin posted that prompted the charges

Russian military authorities allegedly ordered the detention of three Russian milbloggers who have recently criticized the Russian MoD – a move that sparked a backlash in only a small corner of the Russian information space. Russian milbloggers claimed that the commander of the 205th Separate Motorized Rifle Brigade (49th Combined Arms Army, Southern Military District) and possibly a high-level Russian military official ordered Russian Military Counterintelligence to detain the three Russian milbloggers who have recently been critical of the Russian MoD’s handling of issues within the 205th Separate Motorized Rifle Brigade.

Imprisoned Russian ultranationalist Igor Girkin and his associates conducted likely futile political maneuvers intended to coalesce into a coherent and meaningful political opposition group. Girkin announced on August 31 that he intends to run for president in the 2024 Russian presidential elections, but primarily used the announcement to reiterate his longstanding critiques of Russian President Vladimir Putin.[16] Girkin’s theoretical “campaign” will have little to no impact and should not be construed as a direct political threat to the Kremlin. Girkin criticized Putin for being an ineffective military leader, failing to remove inept senior officials, and for prioritizing rich billionaires and longtime friends over the needs of Russia - all of which are longstanding rhetorical points from Girkin



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Key Takeaways:

Ukrainian forces continued counteroffensive operations near Bakhmut in Donetsk Oblast and in western Zaporizhia Oblast on August 31 and reportedly advanced in both sectors of the front.

Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky highlighted Ukraine’s domestic production of long-range missiles on August 31, likely as part of a coordinated Ukrainian campaign promoting increased Ukrainian strike capabilities against Russian deep rear areas.

Russian authorities arrested a notable fringe ultranationalist Russian milblogger on accusations of discrediting the Russian military, likely as part of centralized efforts to silence some critical milblogger voices without prompting a general backlash.

Russian military authorities allegedly ordered the detention of three Russian milbloggers who have recently criticized the Russian MoD – a move that sparked a backlash in only a small corner of the Russian information space.

Imprisoned Russian ultranationalist Igor Girkin and his associates conducted likely futile political maneuvers intended to coalesce into a coherent and meaningful political opposition group.

Russian forces continued offensive operations along the Kupyansk-Svatove-Kreminna line, near Bakhmut, along the Avdiivka-Donetsk City line and unsuccessfully counterattacked in the Donetsk-Zaporizhia Oblast border area and in western Zaporizhia Oblast on August 31.

Russian occupation authorities continue to forcibly deport Ukrainian children to Russia and Russify Ukrainian youth.
Posted by GOP_Tiger
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Posted on 8/31/23 at 8:12 pm to
Politico:

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Ukraine is slated to receive the first ten of 31 promised Abrams tanks in mid-September, according to a Defense Department official and another person familiar with the discussions,
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Ten of the 70-ton tanks are currently in Germany undergoing final refurbishments, said the DOD official. Once that is complete, they will be shipped to Ukraine.

“The U.S. is committed to expedite delivery of the 31 tanks to Ukraine by the fall,” said O’Donnell. He declined to provide a specific timeline.


Posted by StormyMcMan
USA
Member since Oct 2016
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Posted on 8/31/23 at 8:24 pm to
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Multiple air defense missile systems deployed by Russia on two disputed islands off northern Japan in 2020 have been moved off the isles, raising the possibility that Moscow is repurposing weapons from its Far East for use in the war against Ukraine.

LINK

Posted by Darth_Vader
A galaxy far, far away
Member since Dec 2011
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Posted on 8/31/23 at 8:35 pm to
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Ukraine is slated to receive the first ten of 31 promised Abrams tanks in mid-September,


A tank platoon is 4 tanks.

A tank company is 3 platoons + one tank for the CO and one for the XO, so 14 tanks.

A tank battalion is (usually) made up of 4 companies + 1 tank for the battalion CO and another for the XO, so 58 in a 4 company battalion or 44 tanks in a three company battalion.

So, we’re giving them enough Abrams to equip a little over 1/2 of an armor battalion. And while the Abrams is the best damned tank to ever see the battlefield, at least in my biased opinion as an old CDAT Abrams tanker, but 31 of them isn’t going to have much more than a localized effect.
This post was edited on 8/31/23 at 8:42 pm
Posted by Jim Rockford
Member since May 2011
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Posted on 8/31/23 at 8:41 pm to
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Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky highlighted Ukraine’s domestic production of long-range missiles on August 31, likely as part of a coordinated Ukrainian campaign promoting increased Ukrainian strike capabilities against Russian deep rear areas.



Refusing to give Ukraine ATACAMS incentivized them to develop their own long range strike capability, which they will use as they see fit without any influence by us.
Posted by TigerFanatic99
South Bend, Indiana
Member since Jan 2007
35916 posts
Posted on 8/31/23 at 8:46 pm to
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Refusing to give Ukraine ATACAMS incentivized them to develop their own long range strike capability, which they will use as they see fit without any influence by us.


Good. That's gotta be worth at least a few billions to American taxpayers.
Posted by Hateradedrink
Member since May 2023
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Posted on 8/31/23 at 8:47 pm to
I expect the tanks to be used to train for more Abrams shipments and keep forces around Belarus “just in case”.
Posted by WestCoastAg
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Posted on 8/31/23 at 8:49 pm to
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This post was edited on 8/31/23 at 8:51 pm
Posted by Darth_Vader
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Posted on 8/31/23 at 9:06 pm to
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I expect the tanks to be used to train for more Abrams shipments and keep forces around Belarus “just in case”.


That would be the best use for them. If they want to make a real difference they’ll need at least a couple (more would be better) armor brigades worth of them.
Posted by tigeraddict
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Posted on 8/31/23 at 9:10 pm to
I think I read a while back that for Ukraine it’s 10/10/10 + 1 for the commander. This is the reason for 31
Posted by CitizenK
BR
Member since Aug 2019
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Posted on 8/31/23 at 9:24 pm to
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Erl will do that

None in Sweden or Finland
Posted by Darth_Vader
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Member since Dec 2011
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Posted on 8/31/23 at 9:24 pm to
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I think I read a while back that for Ukraine it’s 10/10/10 + 1 for the commander. This is the reason for 31


According to this link a Ukrainian tank company is structured like a US armor company except the company XO doesn’t have a tank. So while we usually have 14 tanks in a company, they have 13. And their tank battalions are made up of three companies + 1 tank for the battalion commander, so a total of 40 tanks in a Ukrainian tank battalion.

battleorder.com

This could have changed though due to tank losses since the start of the war.


ETA: I do find it odd they give both the company and battalion a tank but don’t give either of them a wingman tank.
This post was edited on 8/31/23 at 9:28 pm
Posted by cypher
Member since Sep 2014
5645 posts
Posted on 9/1/23 at 4:48 am to
British Defence Intelligence
INTELLIGENCE UPDATE
UPDATE ON UKRAINE
1 September 2023

The Kerch Strait is a bottleneck for military logistics support to Russian forces in occupied areas of Kherson and Zaporizhzhia Oblasts. Russia is heavily reliant on the Crimean bridge and ferries to cross the Straits.

Russia is employing a range of passive defences such as smoke generators and underwater barriers, alongside active defence measures such as air defence systems, to strengthen the survivability of water crossings and minimise damage from future attacks. The bridge's importance for both logistics and symbolism of Russian occupation mandates these extensive protection measures.

As of 29 August 2023, imagery confirms Russia has created an underwater barrier of submerged ships and containment booms to deter against Uncrewed Surface Vehicle (USV) attacks against the Crimean Bridge. At the southern part of the bridge, this includes several vessels 160 metres apart. These are located at the same place as the Ukrainian "Sea Baby" USV attacks on 17 July 2023.

Previously, in September 2022, the Russian Navy briefly trialled radar decoys on barges for several days, likely to deter radar seeking missiles. Other countermeasures to protect the bridge include the use of TDA-3 truck-mounted smoke generators, with an exercise conducted on 24 May 2023. This smoke was activated to deter incoming air threats on 12 August 2023.
Posted by GOP_Tiger
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Posted on 9/1/23 at 4:53 am to
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I think I read a while back that for Ukraine it’s 10/10/10 + 1 for the commander. This is the reason for 31


That was indeed what we were told at the time the donation was announced. And it was the same with the "Leopard coalition": the goal was to get Ukraine two battalions of 31 tanks each.

I think that the main immediate impact of the Abrams delivery is that it allows Ukraine to more comfortably risk its Challengers and Leopards.
Posted by GOP_Tiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2005
20967 posts
Posted on 9/1/23 at 5:08 am to
Interesting report in the Ukrainian Euromaidan Press about the breach and the attack towards Verbove, but I don't have time right now to quote and link pics.
Posted by Darth_Vader
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Member since Dec 2011
73588 posts
Posted on 9/1/23 at 7:33 am to
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I think that the main immediate impact of the Abrams delivery is that it allows Ukraine to more comfortably risk its Challengers and Leopards.


The logistics challenges for supporting all the different tank types in use has to be a nightmare. The Leo II and Abrams do share basically the same main gun, but not the Challenger. They all have different power plants, different hydraulic systems, different fire control systems, different tracks (though they all have the basic same design), different everything. The spare parts requirements is huge. And being trained to maintain one doesn’t translate entirely to the other.

When you add in the myriad of other various vehicles, both Western & Russian designs, the Ukrainians are operating, it boggles the mind when thinking of what it takes to maintain it all.
This post was edited on 9/1/23 at 7:38 am
Posted by Darth_Vader
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Member since Dec 2011
73588 posts
Posted on 9/1/23 at 7:35 am to
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Interesting report in the Ukrainian Euromaidan Press about the breach and the attack towards Verbove, but I don't have time right now to quote and link pics.


I’ll help you out..

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Ukrainian troops have launched their offensive in the direction of Verbove, a village located on the Russian second line of defense in Zaporizhzhia Oblast. Following the liberation of Robotyne, Ukrainians are continuing to advance towards nearby settlements.


Posted by beerJeep
Louisiana
Member since Nov 2016
38442 posts
Posted on 9/1/23 at 9:04 am to
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Erl will do that
None in Sweden or Finland

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About. Exports In 2021, Sweden exported $220M in Crude Petroleum, making it the 64th largest exporter of Crude Petroleum in the world.

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About. Exports In 2021, Finland exported $4.48B in Refined Petroleum, making it the 31st largest exporter of Refined Petroleum in the world.


Quoi?
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