re: Latest Updates: Russia-Ukraine Conflict

so i get you have changed your stance but less than a year ago you were on here willing to commit massive amounts of american forces to protect ukraine and taiwan and in your own words "at all cost"

you were called out on it and shown the cracks in why that was wrong

instead of doing some research you turned into a scared child who essentially thinks we have to give putin whatever he wants. In that time frame you have had massive mental breakdowns and have admitted to having mental health issues

ill be honest, you need to take a step back from all politics for your health. half the shite we discuss on PT and even the OT has very little effect on day to day life.

i am not typing this as someone lecturing you or someone that is a foe or even someone who doesnt respect your opinion. i am saying this as a friend...if this shite starts getting to you and effecting your day to day life, take a break from this shite and just focus on ole miss baseabll and football....that should be bringing a smile to your face daily.

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This never ends with Putin in a U.S. or any prison for that matter. This ends with Putin either admitting his mistake invading and pulling his troops back to pre invasion lines or he gets thrown from office living or not really doesn’t matter.


now on to this post

Yeah, well it’s not going to happen. Maybe Putin is killed by his underlings, but neither of those is going to happen.

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ok so how does this end? because unless they go nuclear...russia doesnt make the summer. it will be over. and honestly if ukraine wanted to, they could march to moscow eventually, US/Nato will not let them though.

so how do you see this ending?

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Such arrogance. Yeah I would tell Putin to frick off with nuclear launch if I was in that position, but he may have the people in line who will do it. Such fricking arrogance thinking it can’t happen.

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here is why it cant or wont happen....because that 100% invokes article 5 and russia is wiped off the face of the earth in a matter of 6 months. the country ceases to exist and would be broken up into pieces and he is hanging in red square.

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What if he doesn’t give a frick and his underlings don’t give a frick? You refuse to acknowledge this.

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fine then there is nothing we could or ever could have done to stop it except just let him have what he wanted.

have we not learned anythign from the past? should we have let hitler and stalin just take what they wanted too? crazy people are crazy and will do crazy things but eventually good men have to stand up to them.

now i know you bring up their nuclear arsenal....have you looked at their budgetary spending on nuclear maintenance and compared on what it cost to maintain a nuke? I have. i didnt just read articles put out by inspectors who just looked at the missles....im telling you they have not maintained and do not have nearly the launch ready nukes tha is claimed.

be honest, knowing what you know now about the maintainance of thier equipment and their capabilities do you really feel that they have more than a dozen launch ready nukes?

and before you call me crazy, remember i didnt want any of this shite from the start. but that is too late now and we have a chance to take down our biggest historical geopolitical foe for a 2nd time without loss of american lives and more than likely stop aggression by our current biggest political foe due to them being scared.

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and honestly if ukraine wanted to, they could march to moscow eventually

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wow

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but I have no special knowledge.

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We are well aware. Why haven’t you commented on my magic tricks? You know, it’s rude to not comment when someone shows you something cool.

Why are you so rude? Why don’t you like my tricks?

There's been a ton of stupidity in saying that this war is about NATO or something. If you want to understand why Russians are fighting, then you should listen to them. They repeatedly say stuff like this:

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These [Ukrainians] are Russian people possessed by a demon. And we are not coming to kill them, but to change their mind. But if you don't want to change your mind, we will kill you. We will kill as many as necessary: 1 million, 5 million -- we will exterminate everyone, until you realize that you are possessed and need healing. The most possessed person they have is Zelensky. He's a possessed spawn: Hitler 2.0.

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Click the link and watch the actual video, because there's more. This is why we say that Russia is committing genocide in Ukraine: not because they want to kill all Ukrainians (they don't, but they also don't care if they die), but rather because Russia wants to eliminate the very idea of being Ukrainian -- they want to destroy the identity of an entire people.

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SDV, Strannix, Brian, etc... they conduct drive-by criticisms of other POVs, never actually making a counterpoint. Rinse and repeat.

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Exactly. OML beats the horse over and over again, but at least he debates his POV. And yes he goes over the top, but these other guys bring nothing. It’s as if they are programmed and don’t have an original thought.

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OML is alright with me

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would be cool if he stopped calling people genocidal warmongers

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But Ukraine is still the terrorists right? Ukraine didn’t invade anyone. Ukraine isn’t terror bombing civilians or infrastructure inside Russia. But Ukraine is still the bad guy here , right? Russia is just their savior coming to the rescue I suppose. No matter all the dead bodies and mass civilian graves they have left along the way, that’s just their way of showing they care maybe? Tell me, when Russia keeps getting pushed back further and further and further what will your excuse be for them then?

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Here’s the pro Russian logic.
The US orchestrated an overthrow of the Ukranian govt. in 2014; consequently, Russia invaded. First Crimea, then the Donbas and now this year.

It’s all our fault.

They ignore the entirety of Russian history of attacking their neighbors and dominating their governments.

OML is such a drama queen he could get a job in drag show in New Orleans

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Vladimir Putin met with UAE President Mohammed bin Zayed Al Nahyan in St. Petersburg.

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Sheikh Mohamed said on Twitter about his meeting with Putin: “We discussed several issues of mutual concern, including the Ukraine crisis, and the importance of engaging in dialogue to reduce tensions and arrive at a diplomatic solution.”

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And discussing a possible extradition-proof bolt hole for Putin. LINK

Putin's blunder means Moscow is running out of ammunition, says UK spy chief

Tue, October 11, 2022 at 6:33 AM

Months of crippling economic sanctions may be eroding Russia’s ability to wage war against Ukraine, with stockpiles of weapons, ammunition and heavy ordnance like the cruise missiles that hit Kyiv Monday running low.

In an address scheduled for Tuesday, the director of a U.K. intelligence agency best known for cracking Nazi Germany’s Enigma encryption machine says he believes Russian President Vladimir Putin has committed “strategic errors in judgement” that have imposed a “staggering” cost in people and equipment. Diminished capabilities to wage war could shorten the conflict, now running for nearly eight months.

"We know—and Russian commanders on the ground know—that their supplies and munitions are running out," Sir Jeremy Fleming will say during an annual lecture at a U.K. security think tank, according to a speech provided in advance to Fortune.

Fleming heads the Government Communications Headquarters, or GCHQ, which forms the backbone of the country’s intelligence services together with MI5 and MI6—the U.K. equivalent of the Federal Bureau of Investigation and the Central Intelligence Agency, respectively.

Fortune article via yahoo..

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