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re: Latest Updates: Russia-Ukraine Conflict

Posted on 10/10/22 at 9:06 am to
Posted by NC_Tigah
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Posted on 10/10/22 at 9:06 am to
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Learn how to read. Wells are being drilled like a mofo in Texas.
Domestic production declined in 2020, the year of "Two Weeks to Flatten the Curve". The 2020 decline was basically d/t diminished demand.

However, production declined 3.5% further in 2021. Got it?
Posted by Chromdome35
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Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 10/10/22 at 9:07 am to
Rybars thoughts on todays attacks on the Ukrainian infrastructure

https://twitter.com/rybar_en/status/1579472305612554243


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?????????? Russian Armed Forces strikes on Ukraine's energy system - Rybar's analysis

On the morning of October 10, Russian Armed Forces began massive missile strikes throughout Ukraine. In addition to the headquarters and control points of the AFU, SBU and National Guard being hit, Ukrainian energy infrastructure facilities were subjected to systemic strikes.

Neither nuclear power plants nor hydroelectric power plants were struck - and there is no need for that in the current case. Our map shows all significant substations and TPPs with thermal power plants, as well as 330kV high-voltage lines on the territory of Ukraine.

Some of the objects (as well as lines with 750kV substations) were intentionally omitted - otherwise the map would be extremely overcrowded. We focused on the 330kV lines - they were the first to be hit during the strikes.

?? The Rybar team has now been able to confirm the following strikes:

?? Kyiv: Massive hits on TPP-3, TPP-5, substation 110 Vokzalna, Darnytska TPP.

But no strikes confirmed on the Brovary and Sivirna substations, or Kyiv TPP-6. Either they were not included in the list of objects to be hit, or the Ukrainian air defense systems partially worked.

?? Rivne: Rivne 330 kV substation - hitting the facility caused overloading of 110 kV substations and loss of electricity in the city.

?? Khmelnytsky: Khmelnytsky 330/110 kV substation - since there is no power in the whole city, only the 330 kV substation could have been hit, which provoked disconnection of the Rakove, Stara, Termoplast, Ozirna, Dubove substations and the Grechany traction substation.

?? Ternopil: Ternopil 330/110/35 kV substation - no power in the whole city. It feeds: 110 kV Zahreblya, Ternopil support station, Halyts'ka, Promyslova, Plotycha, ZBV.

?? Sumy: 330kV Konotop substation - the hit caused power outages in the entire region.

?? Kharkiv: in the entire city there is no light, water, communications, and the subway stopped.

This could mean a simultaneous shutdown of substations Zalyutino, Kharkiv, Loseve, as well as Kharkiv TPP-5, Zmiiv TPP, Chuhuiv TPP-2. But due to the lack of communication in the region, it is not yet possible to confirm that all facilities were disabled.

?? Kryvyi Rih: Kryvyi Rih TPP, one of the largest in Ukraine.

?? Zhytomyr: Zhytomyr 330/110 kV substation

?? Lviv: Lviv TPP-1

?? Ivano-Frankivsk: Burshtyn TPP

?? Vinnytsia: delayed trains reported, which may be an indication of the failure of individual traction substations. But there is no data about this in open sources.

?? The strikes caused shock among the Ukrainian population. The outage of certain key structures of the Ukrainian power grid caused an overload of the entire power system: the nuclear power plants could not cope with the load.

Those who gave the order for a massive fire attack should consider that all of this damage can still be repaired. If the purpose of the strike was to cause a short-term shock - well, it worked.

But if the goal is to overload the power system of Ukraine for a prolonged panic among the population, to lower the AFU's morale and psychological state and win on the battlefield, then such actions would need to be repeated.

?? It is necessary to break the 750kV switchgear at nuclear power plants, responding with symmetrically to what was done against Zaporizhia NPP. Particular attention should be paid to Khmelnytsky NPP - it has a direct power line to Poland.



https://twitter.com/rybar_en/status/1579467646927769600
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?? Putin: At the suggestion of the RF Ministry of Defense, and according to the plan of the General Staff, a massive strike was conducted with high-precision long-range weapons on Ukrainian energy, military administration and communications facilities.
(FWD from Ranshe Vsekh)

??Putin: In case of continued attempts to carry out terrorist attacks on Russian territory, the response will be harsh and correspond to the level of threat.
(FWD from Ranshe Vsekh)


This post was edited on 10/10/22 at 9:11 am
Posted by GOP_Tiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2005
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Posted on 10/10/22 at 9:08 am to
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Yeah I am not a fan of regime change.

If this invasion keeps going poorly, my wishes will be ignored


I am not pushing for regime change in Russia, but what we want is irrelevant.
It's almost inevitable at this point. Russia is seeing its economy crushed, they know they are the villains of the world, tens of thousands of Russian soldiers are dead, and their army is getting crushed by Ukraine. The whole point of the war was to boost national pride, and the exact opposite is happening.

The Russian public is not going to tolerate losing this war. Putin will leave power. The only questions are:

1) How?
2) When?, and
3) What comes next?
Posted by lsu777
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Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 10/10/22 at 9:08 am to
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So are you going to ignore the celebration of civilians getting bombed? Oh, and Putin is a murderous thug who orders people killed all the time for simply opposing him. Zelensky is defending his country against a foreign invader. You can't see the difference?



so did you not understand my whole post was about not censoring the poli board, they dont need moderation, just like this board doesnt.

i agree with eveyrthing you stated above...how the frick did you garner that i didnt because i said dont bring your liberal censorship bullshite over here?

to be clear we agree 100% about putin and russia being a failed terrorist state. Pretty agee with everything about putin and 99.99% of the shite about this war period.

my point was just because we agree about the war, dont feel emboldened that you bring bullshite like censorship over here. most of the poli board is full of low iq tards who work construction and think they are the smart ones. I can agree on the america first principles or anti-war principles but a couple post above your original post i stated why that isnt possible, mainly because europe and the rest of nato is full of pussies and its better to spend the money now and not lose americans and defeat russia rather than try and deal with them when they are invading poland.
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
42610 posts
Posted on 10/10/22 at 9:08 am to
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Hahaha... this has to be the dumbest thing I have read in a long time. This is all in our control. Here's an idea. How about we stop sending a hundred billion dollars over to those euro gangsters and let them all sort it out themselves. Nah, that wouldn't work. Because MIC has to get paid, and corrupt politicians have to launder. There is no good ending to this conflict. Best we can hope is just to stay the f*ck out of it. It's none of our business. Hell, we can't even manage our own border here.

Typical BS.

Regime change in Russia is out of our control.
We could quit giving Ukraine aid tomorrow and that wouldn’t change the regime in Russia.

Posted by AGGIES
Member since Jul 2021
12298 posts
Posted on 10/10/22 at 9:08 am to
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Sounds reasonable. Is there any reason why this is not reasonable?


The reasons it is unreasonable are the same reasons why there is a war in the first place.

Russia wants the Ukraine government removed and the territory to be under Russian control.
Posted by burger bearcat
Member since Oct 2020
10501 posts
Posted on 10/10/22 at 9:08 am to
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Putin is out. Really out. Like dead or in a Western prison. We've got a long way to go before we get there, but we'll get there.


Holy Shite. Do you have any idea the level of escalation we are talking about throughout the globe to get to your little fantasy. Put down the Call of Duty and Warcraft. We are talking hundreds of millions dead so you can see Pooty Poot totally get owned!

The West should only be trying to work out a peace deal. That's it. Find an off ramp for Russia to take, and let everyone cool off. Let all the oligarchs get paid and move on from this shite.
This post was edited on 10/10/22 at 9:11 am
Posted by WDE24
Member since Oct 2010
54853 posts
Posted on 10/10/22 at 9:09 am to
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so did you not understand my whole post was about not censoring the poli board, they dont need moderation, just like this board doesnt.
I agree. Let people show themselves. Don’t protect them from their own words, thoughts, ideas.
Posted by TBoy
Kalamazoo
Member since Dec 2007
28563 posts
Posted on 10/10/22 at 9:10 am to
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of course it is reasonable…it’s just not a realistic of Putin. It would require both an agreement of what Ukrainian lands are and an acknowledgement of complete defeat. I can’t ever see Putin doing that.

And that's why there will be no negotiated peace deal any time soon. One side is driven by ego and is unreasonable. So we can stop all of this useless discussion about a fantasy peace deal because it depends upon an unreasonable party suddenly becoming reasonable, which won't happen.

This places the reasonable party (Ukraine) in the position of having to continue to defend itself.
Posted by CitizenK
BR
Member since Aug 2019
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Posted on 10/10/22 at 9:10 am to
Russian news media sure as heck is celebrating.
Posted by Mo Jeaux
Member since Aug 2008
63615 posts
Posted on 10/10/22 at 9:13 am to
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Russian news media sure as heck is celebrating.


OK.
Posted by klrstix
Shreveport, LA
Member since Oct 2006
3571 posts
Posted on 10/10/22 at 9:13 am to
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that puts the Grands only 4 hours away, closest they have ever been. Yea!




Posted by SDVTiger
Cabo San Lucas
Member since Nov 2011
97978 posts
Posted on 10/10/22 at 9:14 am to
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So are you going to ignore the celebration of civilians getting bombed?


You were celebrating Ukrainain civilians being blow up on that bridge 2 days ago. Such a hypocrite

Yes a peace deal is how you stop a nuke war

Its not that hard
Posted by Chromdome35
Fast lane, behind a slow driver
Member since Nov 2010
8165 posts
Posted on 10/10/22 at 9:16 am to
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ou were celebrating Ukrainain civilians being blow up on that bridge 2 days ago


Please point to the exact post where someone in this thread celebrated the RUSSIAN civilians who were killed in the bridge explosion.

I'll Venmo you $20 dollars if you can.

ETA: There were plenty of posts celebrating the bridge being hit, but none that I saw celebrated the loss of life of the civilians.

ETA2: You won't because you never respond with a straight answer when you're called out for your BS.

This post was edited on 10/10/22 at 9:24 am
Posted by mmcgrath
Indianapolis
Member since Feb 2010
37341 posts
Posted on 10/10/22 at 9:18 am to
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so did you not understand my whole post was about not censoring the poli board, they dont need moderation, just like this board doesnt.
It should be moderated because it is an embarrassment to the LSU brand that is tightly connected to this website. One of these days there will be a news article done on this site that will feature the Poli Board. Think of how close that was before Chicken nuked the Elections 2020 board.

And my comment really touches upon the hypocrisy of how some posters can go over there, post an opposing point of view, and find themselves banned while the low iq idiots scream profanities and death wishes.
Posted by SDVTiger
Cabo San Lucas
Member since Nov 2011
97978 posts
Posted on 10/10/22 at 9:19 am to
You ran to the poliboard the place you loathe to celebrate
Posted by StormyMcMan
USA
Member since Oct 2016
4669 posts
Posted on 10/10/22 at 9:20 am to
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Actually, only the Nuke threat


According to my understanding of the Budapest Memorandum the only firm thing that has to happen by the US UK and Russia is in the event of nuclear threat to Ukraine. Those nations are supposed to raise it up at the UN security council. So I think that is why Russia hasn't been direct in its threats is because it would have to bring itself up to the council

Posted by CitizenK
BR
Member since Aug 2019
15688 posts
Posted on 10/10/22 at 9:21 am to
So you don't know what a stripper well is. Got it.
Posted by Chromdome35
Fast lane, behind a slow driver
Member since Nov 2010
8165 posts
Posted on 10/10/22 at 9:22 am to
You are so dishonest. I never once said a word about the civilian deaths. Again, please post a link to where I did, or frick straight off.

I hope they wait for Russia to repair the bridge then hit it again and again. I hope no civilians die in the process.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
476599 posts
Posted on 10/10/22 at 9:23 am to
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You are so dishonest

That's his MO.

Just this morning he was accusing me of bringing up Trump and couldn't cite any examples.

Now, after being proven to be wrong and a liar, he's going to run off and claim rhetoric victory by making up something about you, me, or both of us.
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