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re: Latest Updates: Russia-Ukraine Conflict

Posted on 6/26/22 at 9:25 pm to
Posted by Lima Whiskey
Member since Apr 2013
22594 posts
Posted on 6/26/22 at 9:25 pm to
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They don't have an infinite supply of young men.


The Russians have low birth rates, but the minorities of the Federation don’t.

If you looked at the death notices, you’ll see a lot of minorities.
Posted by jimmy the leg
Member since Aug 2007
44664 posts
Posted on 6/26/22 at 9:27 pm to
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The demographic data looks cataclysmic.


This could be said for a number of countries.

Still, it is an issue if Russia is planning on taking on NATO.

Ukraine...not so much.
Posted by lowspark12
nashville, tn
Member since Aug 2009
22597 posts
Posted on 6/26/22 at 9:30 pm to
This ain’t the Russian empire or USSR bro… Russian federation has significantly smaller and much older population than its predecessors.
Posted by crazy4lsu
Member since May 2005
39825 posts
Posted on 6/26/22 at 9:32 pm to
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Its true the long-term demographics of Russia are not good.


That's an understatement. It makes the context of the relative gangsterism of the Russian elite clear, as those demographics are cataclysmic.

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Their best move at this point is to sue for peace while they still have a chance at anything resembling acceptable terms.


Or build leverage for eventual negotiations, which I think is what Russia is also doing, given the broader geopolitical situation.
Posted by crazy4lsu
Member since May 2005
39825 posts
Posted on 6/26/22 at 9:41 pm to
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This could be said for a number of countries.


Russia's demographic situation is among the worst in the world. Maybe the worst.
Posted by crazy4lsu
Member since May 2005
39825 posts
Posted on 6/26/22 at 9:45 pm to
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The Russians have low birth rates, but the minorities of the Federation don’t.



In the last 10 years, no Russian Oblast has had a TFR above replacement. That doesn't mean certain minorities aren't growing in population, but it is indicative of a broader population trend.

The Russian Federal Statistics page is down, but a cached page shows I was wrong, and there were 3 or so oblasts that had TFR's above replacement.
This post was edited on 6/26/22 at 10:12 pm
Posted by jimmy the leg
Member since Aug 2007
44664 posts
Posted on 6/26/22 at 9:46 pm to
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Russia's demographic situation is among the worst in the world. Maybe the worst.


It’s bad, but so are a lot of places (the Baltic states immediately come to mind).

However, they aren’t involved in a war (yet).

Still, I don’t see this as an issue with just battling Ukraine.

NATO, now that is a different story.
Posted by Goonie02
Member since Dec 2019
2797 posts
Posted on 6/26/22 at 9:59 pm to
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Triple canopy eh

you really believe this shite? this dipshit Victoria Nuland fanboy doesn't have three tabs
This post was edited on 6/26/22 at 10:19 pm
Posted by Goonie02
Member since Dec 2019
2797 posts
Posted on 6/26/22 at 10:03 pm to
imagine taking anything this cave troll says seriously.
Posted by WiscyTiger
Bear Lake, WI
Member since Nov 2008
1430 posts
Posted on 6/26/22 at 10:24 pm to
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Chromdome35


quote:

therein lies the answer to "why did the OT become the new Poli board?"


Thank you for the good and informative posting in this thread. Please ignore the putin-bots and Q-tards.

Posted by CitizenK
BR
Member since Aug 2019
16171 posts
Posted on 6/26/22 at 10:44 pm to
A decade ago, it was right at 50% Moslem in Russia's enlisted ranks.
Posted by REG861
Ocelot, Iowa
Member since Oct 2011
38245 posts
Posted on 6/26/22 at 11:27 pm to
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Imagine taking the ISW seriously. lol. this thread is nothing but a neocon circlejerk. mommy Victoria Nuland must be proud. You Kaganites are turbo cucks and all you Neocon(Trotskyite Bolsheviks)should consider killing yourselves. SLAVA!!!


That’s a lot of euphemisms for Jews you a managed to pack in there. You deranged 4channers are so predictable.
This post was edited on 6/26/22 at 11:31 pm
Posted by ruff fish
Member since Feb 2021
526 posts
Posted on 6/27/22 at 1:41 am to
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Hey Ruff

I thought I had asked this several pages back but can't find it

Just curious on your take on these questions as the resident Russian. I won't argue with your replies (I may ask questions though) as I'm genuinely curious.


2) what would you consider victory for Russia?

3) Did you support the war at the start and do you now? Why or why not? If the answer is different, what changed your mind?

4) if needed, would your support a general mobilization? Why or why not?

5) do you think Russia made a mistake in not focusing solely on the Donbas?

Hello.
Why won't you argue? This is fine.
But if you hang labels, then I will also answer the same way.
The questions are not clear to me.
on the issue 2) Victory is if the war is the enemy. You will consider it a victory if, for example, the police deal with a large and armed gang of drug dealers in a large state? My wife and mother-in-law are Ukrainian. These are not my enemies. Half of the government in the Kremlin also has roots in Ukraine.
In our opinion, a special operation is taking place in Ukraine where Nazis with the ideology of Hitler are neutralized.
By the way, did you know that yesterday "Azov" realizing that they are surrounded and threatened with captivity or death. So that foreign mercenaries, incl. the Americans were shot with them, and the corpses and documents were burned. Our military prosecutor's office is now trying to find out the identity of the unburned documents.

3) Supported. Just not a war, you Americans see it as a war. I support the special operation now. Like the vast majority of the population. Including in Ukraine. See for yourself on the cleared territory, people are lining up to receive Russian citizenship. Open an account in a Russian bank, etc. They were intimidated and slaughtered by armed and fascist nationalists. Now they are asking that Russia not leave the cleared territories like in the north of Ukraine.

4) There will be no general mobilization. I would not only support it, but I would go myself. Because at one time Stalin took pity and did not destroy the remnants of the Bandera gangs. We had propaganda that society would re-educate them. Time has shown that this did not happen. According to my data, less than 20% of the army is currently involved in Ukraine. Approximately 18%
So you see for yourself there is no need for general mobilization.

5) I have little information to say so. Putin hasn't called me lately. Apparently very busy. So he would have told me why he was stuck in the Donbas.
In my IMHO, the operation is not proceeding rapidly in order to save the lives of soldiers and sympathetic population. Everything is done in such a way that those who are anti-Russian with propaganda have the opportunity to travel to the EU in order to sit on subsidies. These are usually those who do not like to work. Russians are generally not lazy.
Posted by jeffsdad
Member since Mar 2007
25069 posts
Posted on 6/27/22 at 5:18 am to
Political board boring swarm again.
Posted by Penrod
Member since Jan 2011
56431 posts
Posted on 6/27/22 at 5:43 am to
quote:

Stalin took pity
Posted by StormyMcMan
USA
Member since Oct 2016
4692 posts
Posted on 6/27/22 at 7:04 am to
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Hello.
Why won't you argue? This is fine.
But if you hang labels, then I will also answer the same way


thank you for responding

I just meant that I will not fight you on the answers as I just want to hear your opinion on the matter
This post was edited on 6/27/22 at 7:20 am
Posted by LSU7096
Member since May 2004
3026 posts
Posted on 6/27/22 at 7:12 am to
8 years of lies from Russian media has brainwashed some my Russian friend as well. I hope you get some mental help.
Posted by DabosDynasty
Member since Apr 2017
5180 posts
Posted on 6/27/22 at 7:23 am to


Posted by TxWadingFool
Middle Coast
Member since Sep 2014
5658 posts
Posted on 6/27/22 at 7:54 am to
Looks like Nato will be needing a lot more funding, wonder where that will come from?
Posted by WeeWee
Member since Aug 2012
45762 posts
Posted on 6/27/22 at 7:58 am to
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