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Keeven Robinson's in-custody death determined to be a homicide
Posted on 5/14/18 at 10:41 am
Posted on 5/14/18 at 10:41 am
Ah oh!
Keeven Robinson, the man pronounced dead while in the custody of Jefferson Parish Sheriff's Office detectives following a chase Thursday (May 10), died of compressional asphyxia and his manner of death was a homicide, according to Jefferson Parish Coroner Dr. Gerry Cvitanovich.
The autopsy conducted Saturday revealed significant trauma to the neck and the soft tissue of the neck," Cvitanovich said.
Sheriff Joseph Lopinto notified the State Police, the FBI and the federal Civil Rights Task Force to take part in the investigation into Robinson's death. The four detectives involved were read their rights and questioned, Lopinto said.
The detectives also have been reassigned to administrative duties until the completion of the investigation, a departure from past Sheriff's Office policy.
Robinson, 22, was the target of an undercover drug investigation, suspected of dealing narcotics, Lopinto said Thursday. Robinson fled in his vehicle when he spotted detectives at a Shell station in Old Jefferson near the intersection of Jefferson Highway and Labarre Place.
Robinson wrecked the vehicle and hopped fences before detectives took him into custody during a struggle in the backyard of a home. He stopped breathing during that struggle, Lopinto said.
Robinson was taken to Ochsner Medical Center where he could not be revived.
On Friday night, family members, friends and supporters crowded on front of Robinson's Arnoult Street home in Metairie to remember his life and demand the truth about his death.
"This family needs, deserves and wants answers as to what happened to Keeven," the family's attorney Hester Hilliard said during the vigil. "This mother needs answers as to why she has to spend Mother's Day grieving over the loss of her child. This father needs answers as to why he can no longer hear his son's laugh."
Members of Robinson's family arrived at the Sheriff's Office just before the press conference began Monday. They were in Lopinto's office as they released the details of the autopsy.
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Keeven Robinson, the man pronounced dead while in the custody of Jefferson Parish Sheriff's Office detectives following a chase Thursday (May 10), died of compressional asphyxia and his manner of death was a homicide, according to Jefferson Parish Coroner Dr. Gerry Cvitanovich.
The autopsy conducted Saturday revealed significant trauma to the neck and the soft tissue of the neck," Cvitanovich said.
Sheriff Joseph Lopinto notified the State Police, the FBI and the federal Civil Rights Task Force to take part in the investigation into Robinson's death. The four detectives involved were read their rights and questioned, Lopinto said.
The detectives also have been reassigned to administrative duties until the completion of the investigation, a departure from past Sheriff's Office policy.
Robinson, 22, was the target of an undercover drug investigation, suspected of dealing narcotics, Lopinto said Thursday. Robinson fled in his vehicle when he spotted detectives at a Shell station in Old Jefferson near the intersection of Jefferson Highway and Labarre Place.
Robinson wrecked the vehicle and hopped fences before detectives took him into custody during a struggle in the backyard of a home. He stopped breathing during that struggle, Lopinto said.
Robinson was taken to Ochsner Medical Center where he could not be revived.
On Friday night, family members, friends and supporters crowded on front of Robinson's Arnoult Street home in Metairie to remember his life and demand the truth about his death.
"This family needs, deserves and wants answers as to what happened to Keeven," the family's attorney Hester Hilliard said during the vigil. "This mother needs answers as to why she has to spend Mother's Day grieving over the loss of her child. This father needs answers as to why he can no longer hear his son's laugh."
Members of Robinson's family arrived at the Sheriff's Office just before the press conference began Monday. They were in Lopinto's office as they released the details of the autopsy.
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Posted on 5/14/18 at 10:42 am to t00f
So, do we loot Jefferson or Orleans?
Posted on 5/14/18 at 10:42 am to t00f
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Keeven Robinson's in-custody death determined to be a homicide
There probably won't be any outrage. They don't protest the ones that actually deserve protesting.
Posted on 5/14/18 at 10:42 am to t00f
Don’t be a criminal and you won’t die
Posted on 5/14/18 at 10:43 am to t00f
So JPSO choked him out?
This is going to be interesting. Homicides can still be justified, but how in the hell given the facts so far were the police in imminent danger? No weapon found.
This is going to be interesting. Homicides can still be justified, but how in the hell given the facts so far were the police in imminent danger? No weapon found.
Posted on 5/14/18 at 10:43 am to t00f
Posted on 5/14/18 at 10:43 am to t00f
I bet there will be a big discount sale on appliances and electronics in the area soon.
Posted on 5/14/18 at 10:45 am to t00f
quote:
"This mother needs answers as to why she has to spend Mother's Day grieving over the loss of her child. This father needs answers as to why he can no longer hear his son's laugh."
Here is your answer:
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Robinson, 22, was the target of an undercover drug investigation, suspected of dealing narcotics, Lopinto said Thursday. Robinson fled in his vehicle when he spotted detectives at a Shell station in Old Jefferson near the intersection of Jefferson Highway and Labarre Place.
Robinson wrecked the vehicle and hopped fences before detectives took him into custody during a struggle in the backyard of a home. He stopped breathing during that struggle, Lopinto said.
This post was edited on 5/14/18 at 10:48 am
Posted on 5/14/18 at 10:58 am to t00f
Another example of why body cams should be standard issue by every police department for officers who work the streets.
Anybody know whether JPSO uses body cams?
Anybody know whether JPSO uses body cams?
Posted on 5/14/18 at 10:59 am to CoachChappy
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Here is your answer:
That's why he was arrested and should be spending a lot of time inside a jail cell.
That doesn't explain why he was choked out.
Posted on 5/14/18 at 10:59 am to Tiger Prawn
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Anybody know whether JPSO uses body cams?
99% sure they do not
Posted on 5/14/18 at 11:00 am to t00f
The Robinson family will never get Keeven.
Posted on 5/14/18 at 11:01 am to LSUFanHouston
Just read the article about it, and saw compressional asphyxia. How the hell many people, and how long does it take to kill someone with that? Gotta be several minutes of sitting on someone, and then not giving medical attention afterwards.
We'll see what happened when the video comes out
We'll see what happened when the video comes out
This post was edited on 5/14/18 at 11:43 am
Posted on 5/14/18 at 11:03 am to t00f
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Robinson fled in his vehicle
quote:
Robinson wrecked the vehicle and hopped fences before detectives took him into custody during a struggle in the backyard of a home. He stopped breathing during that struggle,
he would be alive had he not fled...justified
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"This mother needs answers as to why she has to spend Mother's Day grieving over the loss of her child. This father needs answers as to why he can no longer hear his son's laugh."
bc yall raised a TPOS that runs from the police
Posted on 5/14/18 at 11:27 am to Tiger Prawn
I would assume no since they were working undercover. Probably in civilian clothes.
Posted on 5/14/18 at 11:28 am to t00f
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significant trauma to the neck and the soft tissue of the neck
So he was kneeled/sat on while being arrested after he fled from police, crashed the vehicle he was driving, hopped fences as he fled, then struggled with the police...AFTER apparently being caught distributing drugs.
quote:
his manner of death was a homicide
Which is not necessarily murder.
quote:
"This family needs, deserves and wants answers as to what happened to Keeven,"
He died after fleeing, struggling, etc. after he got caught selling drugs. While it is certainly possible there was some kind of excessive force used, it does not at all yet seem like it. There is no evidence in this post about abrasions, scrapes, broken bones, etc. of any significance on Robinson either.
quote:
"This mother needs answers as to why she has to spend Mother's Day grieving over the loss of her child. This father needs answers as to why he can no longer hear his son's laugh."
See above.
Bless the family. This must be very hard. But the guy can't escape responsibility just because he hurt his own family in addition to whoever else's lives he's damaged by his actions and choices.
Don't be such a liberal, OP.
Posted on 5/14/18 at 11:56 am to Hammertime
Here is how compressional asphyxia happens in a Use of Force incident. Guy flees so he is already at an elevated heart rate and breathing heavily. Police make contact and guy fights initially. Police fight back while trying to get him handcuffed. Often several officers pile on to overwhelm the suspect. The weight of the people on top starts to compromise the suspects breathing, he begins to struggle to breathe which is interpreted as more fighting against being handcuffed. So they continue to fight back against him struggling wholly unaware that he is fighting to breathe. Contrary to what you see in movies, a person who is suffocating does NOT yell or scream. They don’t have the oxygen. The suspects increased struggling accelerates the depletion of his remaining oxygen and he goes hypoxic followed by cardiac / respiratory arrest. The officers recover from the struggle and only then realize the suspect didn’t give up but rather is in arrest. By then it is too late.
Posted on 5/14/18 at 12:00 pm to t00f
So the article had some verbiage that was pretty clear to cause of death,
You keep struggling and resisting arrest, the cops or just going to keep applying more pressure until you stop or they can get some cuffs on you. Don't resist arrest and your life won't be in danger, because you struggling puts the cops life in danger. Play stupid games, win stupid prizes
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Robinson wrecked the vehicle and hopped fences before detectives took him into custody during a struggle in the backyard of a home. He stopped breathing during that struggle, Lopinto said.
You keep struggling and resisting arrest, the cops or just going to keep applying more pressure until you stop or they can get some cuffs on you. Don't resist arrest and your life won't be in danger, because you struggling puts the cops life in danger. Play stupid games, win stupid prizes
Posted on 5/14/18 at 12:04 pm to Barbellthor
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But the guy can't escape responsibility just because he hurt his own family in addition to whoever else's lives he's damaged by his actions and choices.
And the responsibility is in a court room and a jail cell, not necessarily in a casket.
His actions, while illegal, don't deserve death. We likely don't have the full story here. He could've been fighting or resisting. If he wasn't, his prior crimes don't warrant a death sentence.
Like I said earlier though, if this ends up with a cop being fired and put on trial, possibly found guilty, there won't be any outrage. They only protest when it's clear that the cop was justified.
Posted on 5/14/18 at 12:05 pm to lowhound
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You keep struggling and resisting arrest, the cops or just going to keep applying more pressure until you stop or they can get some cuffs on you. Don't resist arrest and your life won't be in danger, because you struggling puts the cops life in danger. Play stupid games, win stupid prizes
Or like the post above you said, fighting for oxygen when you're being pinned downed can look an awful lot like resisting arrest.
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