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re: Keeven Robinson's in-custody death determined to be a homicide
Posted on 5/14/18 at 1:16 pm to speedbump032
Posted on 5/14/18 at 1:16 pm to speedbump032
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don't know if it has been mentioned, but what if the suspect was swallowing the evidence(drugs) when he was subdued by the pursuing officers...hence for the soft tissue damage from choking
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Posted on 5/14/18 at 1:17 pm to TH03
I didn't realize you were a bleeding heart pussy hat wearer. What happened to you?
Posted on 5/14/18 at 1:17 pm to Breesus
quote:People typically pass out in ~5 seconds from a properly applied choke. If you keep holding, they can be dead shortly after if you don't let go (or don't know what you're doing).
I have no problem with police putting fleeing and resisting drug dealers in choke holds to cuff them
It sounds like they were sitting on the guy, while they also had a knee or hand on his throat. If they had a knee or hand on his throat, they were looking at him in the face and watching him die. He passed out, and they continued to choke him.
That's extremely excessive since they all carry tasers. They could've just tagged him instead of choking him to death. He's definitely not gonna sit still and let someone choke him. I know I wouldn't
Posted on 5/14/18 at 1:18 pm to Hammertime
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He's definitely not gonna sit still and let someone choke him. I know I wouldn't
Would you check the cops knuckles before deciding?
Posted on 5/14/18 at 1:19 pm to Breesus
you're one of these types that think a cop can do no wrong...aren't you?
if so then I dont have any more questions.
if so then I dont have any more questions.
Posted on 5/14/18 at 1:19 pm to Breesus
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I didn't realize you were a bleeding heart pussy hat wearer. What happened to you?
I've taken no sides here other than saying that his crimes didn't warrant his death unless he was still fighting on the ground. Like I've said several times, we don't know that yet.
Posted on 5/14/18 at 1:20 pm to Breesus
I'm too lazy to run bruh. This wouldn't have happened to me
Posted on 5/14/18 at 1:20 pm to t00f
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Robinson fled in his vehicle when he spotted detectives
quote:I see no homicide here.
Robinson wrecked the vehicle and hopped fences before detectives took him into custody during a struggle
Posted on 5/14/18 at 1:21 pm to ell_13
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I see no homicide here
Then you don't know the definition of the word.
Posted on 5/14/18 at 1:21 pm to TH03
quote:It said he stopped breathing DURING the struggle.
he was still fighting on the ground. Like I've said several times, we don't know that yet.
Posted on 5/14/18 at 1:21 pm to Hammertime
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Posted on 5/14/18 at 1:22 pm to TH03
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Then you don't know the definition of the word.
Don't be a technical dick, TH. You know what I meant. I don't see a law that was broken.
Posted on 5/14/18 at 1:22 pm to ell_13
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It said he stopped breathing DURING the struggle
I'm missing your point here.
It can still be a justifiable homicide. Homicide doesn't mean murder. And he could've been struggling to breath.
This post was edited on 5/14/18 at 1:23 pm
Posted on 5/14/18 at 1:24 pm to ell_13
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Don't be a technical dick, TH. You know what I meant. I don't see a law that was broken.
Then say what you mean. Don't get mad at me because you used the word incorrectly.
Posted on 5/14/18 at 1:24 pm to TH03
quote:See post above.
It can still be a justifiable homicide. Homicide doesn't mean murder.
quote:Still being a technical dick.
And he could've been struggling to breath.
I've never seen a report that references "struggle" to mean "struggling to breath". FFS.
This post was edited on 5/14/18 at 1:26 pm
Posted on 5/14/18 at 1:25 pm to 91TIGER
What are you doing? Taking what I said about an incident, and then combining that with what I said about not letting someone choke me to death?
If you'd let someone choke you to death, I question your judgment on other things dealing with life and death
If you'd let someone choke you to death, I question your judgment on other things dealing with life and death
Posted on 5/14/18 at 1:25 pm to TH03
quote:I used it correctly, but it was too vague for you since homicide, as you admitted, can also mean murder. You're being obtuse just to be an arse.
Don't get mad at me because you used the word incorrectly.
Posted on 5/14/18 at 1:25 pm to ell_13
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Robinson fled in his vehicle when he spotted detectives
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Robinson wrecked the vehicle and hopped fences before detectives took him into custody during a struggle
I see no homicide here.
Technically you are right. The homicide happened here:
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He stopped breathing during that struggle, Lopinto said.
Posted on 5/14/18 at 1:26 pm to ell_13
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I've never seen a report that reference "struggle" to mean "struggling to breath". FFS.
You're being dense and just calling me a dick for whatever reason. Use your words better, that's not me being a dick.
Struggling to breath can look just the fricking same as struggling to get free because they're basically the same thing. It's not like a cop is going to say in his report "yeah he was struggling to breath so I kept my weight on him."
Posted on 5/14/18 at 1:27 pm to Packer
True.
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