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re: Just how bad was early 90s New Orleans?
Posted on 7/22/26 at 4:49 pm to touchdownjeebus
Posted on 7/22/26 at 4:49 pm to touchdownjeebus
quote:yes. That’s why I never understood that daiquiri shop basically across the street from why it was protected
It was protected
I guess it served as a distraction, if needed
Posted on 7/22/26 at 4:53 pm to touchdownjeebus
Lived in Parkview for 10 years - not really during that time period, but you knew it was good even after. I can only imagine during its heydey
Posted on 7/22/26 at 5:20 pm to ZombieCajun
quote:Ok??? And that has nothing to do with the city being safer overall compared to 30 years ago. There is also live crime cameras connected to Project Nola all throughout the Quarter that have caught loads of criminals, another reason why the city is currently safer than the 90s
Go for a walk down Canal and turn into the Quarter, anywhere. Then get back to me. Good luck
Posted on 7/22/26 at 5:30 pm to saderade
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Ok??? And that has nothing to do with the city being safer overall compared to 30 years ago. There is also live crime cameras connected to Project Nola all throughout the Quarter that have caught loads of criminals, another reason why the city is currently safer than the 90s
Under-reporting of crime and under-enforcement doesn't qualify as safer. Wife used to walk down Canal with her GM, shopping at Maison Blanche, and she never felt unsafe. Try that now. On Bienville, old lady dragged to death during car jacking outside Liuzza's. Tulane students getting car jacked. Guy (Brennan's chef) picking up his kid at daycare at the old Methodist Church, killed. Sure, they had crime then too, but there's more now and spread to what used to be safe areas.
Posted on 7/22/26 at 5:49 pm to touchdownjeebus
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but for the most part, the quarter was safe as long as you stayed from bourbon to the river.
I have never found that area to be risky, and I was there a lot in the late 80s and back only every few years since. I cant speak to what the Quarter is like overall today, but I can say it was DEFINTIELY policed differently before bodycams and social media. It was routine for someone to get pinned by a horse against a wall for pissing in public, or just pissing off a cop, a fight was broken up with night sticks, a fight with multiple people would get a bar cleared with chokeholds and a night in jai. Basically, violence by the general public was met with a higher level of violence from cops. The you tube shite of dog cussing a cop during an interaction was not on the table. I simple insult or even threatening eye contact would've resulted in hands being laid upon you at a minimum. You want to break out a camcorder or camera during the proceedings, it was getting slapped out of your hands.
We used to be a proper country.
Posted on 7/22/26 at 6:06 pm to JPBiscuit
Family use to live uptown during that time. They never locked their cars at night. Hope this helps!
I should clarify: doors were left unlocked because people kept breaking in. Better to leave unlocked, than a shattered window.
I should clarify: doors were left unlocked because people kept breaking in. Better to leave unlocked, than a shattered window.
This post was edited on 7/23/26 at 11:25 am
Posted on 7/22/26 at 6:13 pm to Basura Blanco
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We used to be a proper country
Everything listed above is what brought the consent decree
Posted on 7/22/26 at 6:27 pm to fightin tigers
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Everything listed above is what brought the consent decree
True. I guess a lot of future lawyers/lawmakers were in a chokehold at the end of a nightstick back then.
Posted on 7/22/26 at 6:27 pm to GusMcRae
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If I/we are out running an errand or whatever, the house is rarely locked
What’s the benefit? It takes seconds to lock a deadbolt. I mean, if you take the time to holster a gun, why wouldn’t you take the time to push a key in and turn?
Posted on 7/22/26 at 6:28 pm to SaintlyTiger88
I worked in law enforcement in New Orleans during those years. I was in my 20s and it was a great time.
It was like living in episodes of tv cop shows. Lots of foot chases. A lot of resisting arrest. I felt invincible when confronting criminals until a fellow officer was killed. It then hit me that I had been embracing a survivor’s fallacy, and should have studied more in school.
In physical alterations, training made a difference. Nowadays you can’t count on training with MMA gyms all over.
But unlike tv shows of that era, there was a lot of racism in ghettos. People expressed their hatred for me just because of my skin color, but at the time not because of my job. frick the police was not as dominant as an expression back then. The ghetto residents would still not cooperate, but pastors would because of a genuine desire to keep their communities safe.
And defense attorneys would round up “witnesses” to attest that they saw cops plant a gun on people when in no way shape or form such a thing happened with the people I worked with. Why risk a career planting evidence?
And everyone I knew in New Orleans had been the victim of crime. It seemed like no one could go 2 years without being a crime victim at least once.
It was like living in episodes of tv cop shows. Lots of foot chases. A lot of resisting arrest. I felt invincible when confronting criminals until a fellow officer was killed. It then hit me that I had been embracing a survivor’s fallacy, and should have studied more in school.
In physical alterations, training made a difference. Nowadays you can’t count on training with MMA gyms all over.
But unlike tv shows of that era, there was a lot of racism in ghettos. People expressed their hatred for me just because of my skin color, but at the time not because of my job. frick the police was not as dominant as an expression back then. The ghetto residents would still not cooperate, but pastors would because of a genuine desire to keep their communities safe.
And defense attorneys would round up “witnesses” to attest that they saw cops plant a gun on people when in no way shape or form such a thing happened with the people I worked with. Why risk a career planting evidence?
And everyone I knew in New Orleans had been the victim of crime. It seemed like no one could go 2 years without being a crime victim at least once.
This post was edited on 7/22/26 at 6:44 pm
Posted on 7/22/26 at 6:30 pm to Picayuner
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New Orleans is on the rise
There’s a limit to how high it can go.
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Everywhere else is just Cleveland
I’ve had some fun times in Cleveland.
Posted on 7/22/26 at 6:40 pm to Basura Blanco
Beating and murdering citizens tends to bring consequences
Posted on 7/22/26 at 6:58 pm to fightin tigers
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Beating and murdering citizens tends to bring consequences
My post regarding cops using violence on a drunken violent citizen as they were arrested in the most tourist centric area of a city that relies on tourism, is perhaps slightly different than say a cop murdering a citizen who witnessed a cop committing murder. Because both happened in the same vicinity around the same time does not make them the same thing.
And for the record, my proper country comment was directed at the current landscape of people believing and often being granted their freedom of speech as absolute without any consequence.
Posted on 7/22/26 at 7:12 pm to Basura Blanco
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granted their freedom of speech as absolute without any consequence
The amount of freedom granted by the Constitution shouldn't be vague.
Somehow it is though.
Posted on 7/22/26 at 7:25 pm to KiwiHead
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I was pretty close to Ronnie
I am so sorry for your loss. I can’t imagine how devastating that was for so many people. I watched a couple of videos this afternoon; it was even worse than I remembered. Those psyche evals that they just disregarded before she even joined the force... I didn’t know about the remains they found under her house, either.
Posted on 7/22/26 at 9:12 pm to holdmuh keystonelite
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No. Maybe New Orleans is different but I worked in some cities where it is much worse now then 80's and 90's but they will tell you different.
No it’s not different. I’ve had two Nopd tell me they fudge the stats.
Posted on 7/22/26 at 10:05 pm to TexasTiger08
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That’s not normal life in about 80% of the country.
More like 95%
Posted on 7/23/26 at 1:10 am to TexasTiger08
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In effect, suggesting that it’s more dangerous for a tourist or whitey in the FQ nowadays, but the hoods today are less dangerous?
The crime is not centralized any longer. If you didn’t venture to certain places to buy certain things, you were probably safe back in the 90s. That’s no longer the case.
Posted on 7/23/26 at 1:24 am to touchdownjeebus
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The crime is not centralized any longer. If you didn’t venture to certain places to buy certain things, you were probably safe back in the 90s.That’s no longer the case.
RIP da parish
This post was edited on 7/23/26 at 1:25 am
Posted on 7/23/26 at 7:12 am to Tiger in the Sticks
When the truth came out as to why she got hired came out, Barthelemy needed to get protection as he was out of office by this time He signed off on the exception as did Orticke, the former chief at the time of the hire. NOPD was so fricked up at that time. Len "RoboCop" Davis had just been busted for the murder of Kim Groves and another person.....and he had been running a criminal empire from behind the badge. About a month before there were the Bennie Thompson murders ( Bennie Thompson was not involved, but his wife and kid were killed....Thompson had been a Saints player). There was a lot of corruption and little supervision especially in the 7th and 5th Districts. I think that the Department had 4 chiefs in 7 years. Turnover of personnel was ridiculous. My uncle at 3rd District Uptown had told me and my cousins that if you wanted to make a lot of money as a cop legitimately that was the time to do it. Cops were routinely working 60 + hours a week because they were so short staffed. It was a mess, utter chaos until Marc Morial brought in Richard Pennington who was not from the inside to clean things up. He had been on the job about 6 months when Ronnie was killed and he had just come on right as the Davis thing was hitting.
People like to crap on Marc Morial, but Sidney Barthelemy left him a diarrhea with French bread disguised as a shite sandwich......it was that bad.
Yeah Franks was a real head case and freak show. Popped her Dad in the head and buried him under the house. She had accumulated quite the IAD file in the short time she was there but had not really received any significant disciplinary action. Len Davis had a file so thick that it was almost the size of a phone book and he had only been on the job about 7-8 years.....suspended 6 times. Ronnie had asked to no longer be paired with Franks. No one wanted to be paired with her. When that happens, you are either a dangerous incompetent or you ratted out another cop to IAD whom others liked. She was not liked. I could go on, but there is not enough space or time.
I'm not a death penalty advocate, but when it comes to Franks, I struggle with the exception. Although I know retired NOPD who want her arse alive if only to hope other inmates torment her for a long time.
People like to crap on Marc Morial, but Sidney Barthelemy left him a diarrhea with French bread disguised as a shite sandwich......it was that bad.
Yeah Franks was a real head case and freak show. Popped her Dad in the head and buried him under the house. She had accumulated quite the IAD file in the short time she was there but had not really received any significant disciplinary action. Len Davis had a file so thick that it was almost the size of a phone book and he had only been on the job about 7-8 years.....suspended 6 times. Ronnie had asked to no longer be paired with Franks. No one wanted to be paired with her. When that happens, you are either a dangerous incompetent or you ratted out another cop to IAD whom others liked. She was not liked. I could go on, but there is not enough space or time.
I'm not a death penalty advocate, but when it comes to Franks, I struggle with the exception. Although I know retired NOPD who want her arse alive if only to hope other inmates torment her for a long time.
This post was edited on 7/23/26 at 8:12 am
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