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re: Just how bad was early 90s New Orleans?
Posted on 7/21/26 at 9:39 pm to SaintlyTiger88
Posted on 7/21/26 at 9:39 pm to SaintlyTiger88
People have literally been fleeing New Orleans by the thousands for as long as the land outside the city could be made ready to do so.
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Posted on 7/21/26 at 9:40 pm to vistajay
quote:I think uptown was the worst because of the projects
90s were bad.
We lived in an ok part of mid-city - worst thing was the gun shots on Fridays and Saturdays at the daiquiri shop that used to be at the corner of bienville & carrollton
Posted on 7/21/26 at 10:43 pm to GusMcRae
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This is absurd. NOLA violent crime is wwaaaaaayyyy down. Look it up.
Your right. You wouldn’t think so as it feels very unsafe now but it’s way down in almost every major city. If you look at the amount of homicides in the 80s and 90s it’s shocking. Wonder why it was so bad back then.
Posted on 7/21/26 at 11:54 pm to SaintlyTiger88
I remember spending tons of time down there in 2006, 2007ish and it was pretty great for awhile. The storm had scattered the shitbags and it seemed like at least 30% of my friends moved down there and were living it up. I went to a series of bachelor parties and weddings down there which were truly incredible. In contrast to when I was in college in the late 90’s, it was definitely a bit seedier and sketch.
Posted on 7/22/26 at 12:02 am to TheMagicMan
quote:is that because of NOLA east? Or just NOLA in general?
I know my dad wouldn't let my mom go alone into New Orleans
My brother and I would walk to Canal St or Orleans then take the bus downtown and meet our parents at work and we’d walk to Cafe Du Monde or go get music/supplies at Werlein’s or go eat at Krauss/Woolsworth (rip)
This was 1993-1996 (before 1990 my PawPaw would go with us) we were like 11-15 years old
I guess we were raggedy assed white kids
Posted on 7/22/26 at 12:34 am to SaintlyTiger88
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Antoinette Frank
One of the most brutal crimes I can remember. I wasn’t living in New Orleans, but was visiting my mom in Slidell when it happened. I see she’s still on death row.
Posted on 7/22/26 at 7:10 am to glassman
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She locked the door and the animals shot her through the window. He ended up quitting his job and went to law school and worked for the JP DA office prosecuting violent crime.
He does a helluva job, too.
Posted on 7/22/26 at 7:20 am to SaintlyTiger88
I was partying at the techno clubs in New Orleans and Fat City in the 1990’s.
I don’t remember it being anymore dangerous than now.
I was whacked out on party drugs, so I may not have noticed.
I may have even been the dangerous crowd!
I don’t remember it being anymore dangerous than now.
I was whacked out on party drugs, so I may not have noticed.
I may have even been the dangerous crowd!
Posted on 7/22/26 at 7:41 am to SaintlyTiger88
People who are saying it is no different are out of their fricking minds.
In many ways it was safer. The quarter was still mostly controlled by Italians and anything over than petty crime was rare. Yeah, the Louisiana pizza kitchen incident happened, but for the most part, the quarter was safe as long as you stayed from bourbon to the river.
The warehouse district was actually rough. It hadn’t really made the turn yet.
If you stayed out of neighborhoods you didn’t belong in, you were fairly safe.
Today that is not the case. Katrina created a diaspora. Between that storm and the projects being torn down, crime spread to places that used to be relatively immune from anything other than a car being broken into or dumb arse kids doing dumb arse things.
Couple that with the Italians slowly selling off quarter property and not having nearly the sway and control they once enjoyed, and now you have what you have today.
The violent crime statistics are lower, but now many victims are people who in 92 would have been relatively safe.
In many ways it was safer. The quarter was still mostly controlled by Italians and anything over than petty crime was rare. Yeah, the Louisiana pizza kitchen incident happened, but for the most part, the quarter was safe as long as you stayed from bourbon to the river.
The warehouse district was actually rough. It hadn’t really made the turn yet.
If you stayed out of neighborhoods you didn’t belong in, you were fairly safe.
Today that is not the case. Katrina created a diaspora. Between that storm and the projects being torn down, crime spread to places that used to be relatively immune from anything other than a car being broken into or dumb arse kids doing dumb arse things.
Couple that with the Italians slowly selling off quarter property and not having nearly the sway and control they once enjoyed, and now you have what you have today.
The violent crime statistics are lower, but now many victims are people who in 92 would have been relatively safe.
Posted on 7/22/26 at 7:46 am to GreenRockTiger
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We lived in an ok part of mid-city
Don’t know if you are aware of it or not, but you lived in the safest neighborhood in the city, lol.
That area, from Orleans and city park avenue, to Carrollton then to banks was pretty much off limits to anything serious. It was protected, especially the area from canal to Orleans.
Posted on 7/22/26 at 7:46 am to SaintlyTiger88
It was much worse in the early 90’s than it is today. 421 murders that year, if my memory is correct. Enormous housing projects full of violent criminals at every turn, on and on. For comparison, most of those projects are now gone (this ruined NO East & Algiers as those people resettled), and the murder rate is currently hovering in the 30’s more than half way through the year.
I can remember my family’s security alarm being set off a couple times back then, bikes being stolen, garage robbed, etc in those days in our upper middle class neighborhood. Yes, it’s much better now.
I can remember my family’s security alarm being set off a couple times back then, bikes being stolen, garage robbed, etc in those days in our upper middle class neighborhood. Yes, it’s much better now.
Posted on 7/22/26 at 8:31 am to dgnx6
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Is murder accurate? Because at a low point there during covid they were barely solving homicides and would only have a handful of dui arrests. Which means they weren't policing shite. Not sure how accurate any numbers were during that period.
I cannot stress to you how completely lawless New Orleans was in 2021, especially after Ida. There was effectively no police, no ems, and no DA’s office. The only law enforcement still operating was parking violations. It was literally akin to Gotham in The Dark Knight Rises. I saw so much death, so many shootings and stabbings, people disappeared. Crimes were being committed in broad daylight in front of police officers who would just watch and do nothing because they knew arresting them was just going to cause them a bunch of paper work just to release the criminals back on the street immediately. It was absolute freedom, but ever-present danger. I don’t trust any stats from that time period.
This post was edited on 7/22/26 at 8:32 am
Posted on 7/22/26 at 8:53 am to Tiger in the Sticks
People really don't know the whole story. It's much worse for her than the press put out.
Posted on 7/22/26 at 11:03 am to KiwiHead
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People really don't know the whole story
I don’t know if you can elaborate...
Posted on 7/22/26 at 12:15 pm to SaintlyTiger88
Over 400 murders in 1994. 121 in 2025 and 51 so far in 2026. Much safer now. The CIA introduced cocaine and crack into the projects back then and the wars started. They also funded rap music to promote violence These are facts. Most murders between rivals not citizens. New Orleans is on the rise, especially because of the new mayor. Everywhere else is just Cleveland
Posted on 7/22/26 at 12:22 pm to touchdownjeebus
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The violent crime statistics are lower, but now many victims are people who in 92 would have been relatively safe.
In effect, suggesting that it’s more dangerous for a tourist or whitey in the FQ nowadays, but the hoods today are less dangerous?
Posted on 7/22/26 at 12:49 pm to Tiger in the Sticks
Most of it is hearsay from the prosecutors and investigators on the case. A deal was made to not prosecute or sue a prominent politician and a former police chief who basically allowed this to happen despite multiple warnings prior to employment and during employment.
Also Franks allegedly claimed that Ronnie Williams was screwing her out of some of the detail money as well as some of the cash "tips" from the restaurant owners who were making quite a bit of money despite the fact that the restaurant was never super busy. She hit the place up on one of the few nights they did not have a large amount of cash on hand.....allegedly
She was an HR nightmare to put it mildly. Her relationship with LaCaze was small fry compared to what was said to be but not used because it was not needed.
I was pretty close to Ronnie, his Dad, his wife and brother in law. Ronnie was the second person I met when my Mom and Dad moved back in 1974.
Also Franks allegedly claimed that Ronnie Williams was screwing her out of some of the detail money as well as some of the cash "tips" from the restaurant owners who were making quite a bit of money despite the fact that the restaurant was never super busy. She hit the place up on one of the few nights they did not have a large amount of cash on hand.....allegedly
She was an HR nightmare to put it mildly. Her relationship with LaCaze was small fry compared to what was said to be but not used because it was not needed.
I was pretty close to Ronnie, his Dad, his wife and brother in law. Ronnie was the second person I met when my Mom and Dad moved back in 1974.
This post was edited on 7/22/26 at 12:54 pm
Posted on 7/22/26 at 1:00 pm to TexasTiger08
Periodically you will get some tourists that stray off the tourist areas and find themselves getting into trouble.....has been the case for decades going back to at least WWIl and you might find a sailor floating on occasion with mysterious stab wounds that were not put there by river catfish
This post was edited on 7/22/26 at 1:01 pm
Posted on 7/22/26 at 1:10 pm to saderade
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And yet every verifiable measure says the exact opposite is true.
Go for a walk down Canal and turn into the Quarter, anywhere. Then get back to me. Good luck.
Posted on 7/22/26 at 3:03 pm to TexasTiger08
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quote: I’ve lived in Lakeview and feel as safe as anywhere else I’ve ever lived. Often forget to lock the truck… never lock the back door… often leave the whole hous unlocked. Not smart
There is a privacy fence (locked) and double garage (closed).
If I/we are out running an errand or whatever, the house is rarely locked.
Also, I’m well armed.
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