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re: Israel Pfizer efficacy against covid-19 hospitalizations broken down by age group
Posted on 8/18/21 at 11:42 am to deathvalleytiger10
Posted on 8/18/21 at 11:42 am to deathvalleytiger10
How can people like you continually point to long term effects of a vaccine, but ignore potential long term effects of a virus that alot of you thing was man-made in china? This part is baffling to me
Posted on 8/18/21 at 11:42 am to Bard
quote:Not sure where you got 1%, nor why you included "out of 100,000".
So 1% out of 100,000 people who are not vaxxed will have a severe case IF they get infected.
In the US we have had ~2.5million hospitalized out of ~40million cases, or 6.25% of cases end up being "severe".
Posted on 8/18/21 at 11:44 am to Korkstand
quote:I think that is very important to note
In the US we have had ~2.5million hospitalized out of ~40million DOCUMENTED cases, or 6.25% of cases end up being "severe".
This post was edited on 8/18/21 at 11:45 am
Posted on 8/18/21 at 11:45 am to Salmon
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when has pride argued against the medical freedom case?
He hasn't.
Just thanking him for providing the data that clearly shows mass vaccination is unnecessary.
Posted on 8/18/21 at 11:46 am to josh336
quote:I just want to know how they now have decided to define long term effects
How can people like you continually point to long term effects of a vaccine, but ignore potential long term effects of a virus that alot of you thing was man-made in china? This part is baffling to me
We are over 1 year out from the vaccine being given
So, in their opinion, 1 year is not enough time to determine what effects the vaccine can cause
So they are saying the vaccine can cause nothing, have a person perfectly healthy and normal on labs for over a year, and then BOOM!
Posted on 8/18/21 at 11:47 am to josh336
Who ignored the long term effects of the virus?
I certainly didn't.
I certainly didn't.
Posted on 8/18/21 at 11:54 am to lsupride87
So the results show what we already know
The absolute risk reduction of this vaccine is meaningless for anyone under 60
The absolute risk reduction of this vaccine is meaningless for anyone under 60
Posted on 8/18/21 at 11:56 am to Mingo Was His NameO
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But the messaging is if you aren't vaccinated you are committing suicide
Not just suicide, genocide.
Posted on 8/18/21 at 11:58 am to Korkstand
quote:You think only 10% of the population has had covid?
In the US we have had ~2.5million hospitalized out of ~40million cases, or 6.25% of cases end up being "severe".
Posted on 8/18/21 at 12:00 pm to ell_13
quote:If you have a more accurate number, please share.
You think only 10% of the population has had covid?
Posted on 8/18/21 at 12:00 pm to dgnx6
quote:
Not just suicide, genocide.
Yeah we are sending out kids to school to murder people
Posted on 8/18/21 at 12:03 pm to Korkstand
quote:Sure thing, boss
If you have a more accurate number, please share.
Now, a machine-learning algorithm developed at UT Southwestern estimates that the number of COVID-19 cases in the U.S. since the pandemic began is nearly three times that of confirmed cases.
The algorithm, described in a study published today in PLOS ONE, provides daily updated estimates of total infections to date as well as how many people are currently infected across the U.S. and in 50 countries hardest hit by the pandemic.
As of Feb. 4, according to the model's calculations, more than 71 million people in the U.S. – 21.5 percent of Americans – had contracted COVID-19. That compares with the substantially smaller 26.7 million publicly reported number of confirmed cases, says Jungsik Noh, Ph.D., a UT Southwestern assistant professor in the Lyda Hill Department of Bioinformatics and first author of the study.
Posted on 8/18/21 at 12:03 pm to Korkstand
if vaccinated people don’t get more than the sniffles from COVID, why would they get tested for COVID?
Posted on 8/18/21 at 12:03 pm to Korkstand
quote:
If you have a more accurate number, please share.
The funny thing about you using that number and thinking it is accurate is a huge part of that number is false positives.
Posted on 8/18/21 at 12:05 pm to lsupride87
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DOCUMENTED
quote:Sure.
I think that is very important to note
Legit questions:
Of the documented cases, how many do you think were false positives due to overly sensitive tests?
Of the presumed undocumented asymptomatic cases, do you think these people have acquired a reasonable level of immunity? In other words, does it even make sense statistically to count these as cases?
Posted on 8/18/21 at 12:06 pm to The Boat
There is no person who is rational that could possible think the "confirmed/presumed" cases is even close to the actual case number when in the first wave, we couldn't test the majority of people of who likely had it.
Posted on 8/18/21 at 12:07 pm to lsupride87
It is safe to assume that the elderly unvaccinated had comorbidities that did not allow them to be healthy enough to get the vaccine in the first place.
Posted on 8/18/21 at 12:07 pm to lsupride87
quote:
We are over 1 year out from the vaccine being given
So, in their opinion, 1 year is not enough time to determine what effects the vaccine can cause
You still haven't answered my questions on the boosters that will almost certainly be required and how those affect these numbers
And you are not factoring in infection rates to any of these calculations, which we really have no idea what they are.
This post was edited on 8/18/21 at 12:09 pm
Posted on 8/18/21 at 12:08 pm to The Boat
quote:I'll mark you down as thinking the number is too high. You can duke it out with those thinking it's too low.
The funny thing about you using that number and thinking it is accurate is a huge part of that number is false positives.
Posted on 8/18/21 at 12:09 pm to Korkstand
quote:
I'll mark you down as thinking the number is too high. You can duke it out with those thinking it's too low.
I think it's too low. I was pointing out the hypocrisy of you asking for a more accurate number while providing that one.
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