re: Israel Pfizer efficacy against covid-19 hospitalizations broken down by age group

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Why would a booster of the same vaccine be more dangerous? Nothing medically supports that at all

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One input can not be bad. Sustained inputs of something can be bad, it's really not a hard concept.

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It’s just a magical what if unicorn you are chasing

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You seem to be pretty knowledgeable, and I'm asking a question I don't know the answer to. You may not either, no reason to be a cocksucker.

To use one of your own examples, if I eat 3 Tylenol it'll help control my fever. If I eat 150 Tylenol, I'm going to have adverse effects.

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Sure thing, boss

Now, a machine-learning algorithm developed at UT Southwestern estimates that the number of COVID-19 cases in the U.S. since the pandemic began is nearly three times that of confirmed cases.

The algorithm, described in a study published today in PLOS ONE, provides daily updated estimates of total infections to date as well as how many people are currently infected across the U.S. and in 50 countries hardest hit by the pandemic.

As of Feb. 4, according to the model's calculations, more than 71 million people in the U.S. – 21.5 percent of Americans – had contracted COVID-19. That compares with the substantially smaller 26.7 million publicly reported number of confirmed cases, says Jungsik Noh, Ph.D., a UT Southwestern assistant professor in the Lyda Hill Department of Bioinformatics and first author of the study.

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I thought we learned early on not to trust models?


Everyone is giving me shite, but half think the case numbers are inflated for "fear" purposes either via too-sensitive tests or cases counted twice or presumed cases or whatever, while others think the number is far too low due to missed asymptomatic cases or lack of testing early on.

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Said another way, I have a 99.9718% chance of not getting a sever case.

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yup these people love to fear monger

I think 4x is correct.

He does make a good point about asymptomatic cases though. We used to differentiate.

When talking about how deadly a disease is, we would talk about asymptomatic cases because it gave a clearer picture. You had to count them.

But when talking about actual cases that result in symptoms, those are the totals we see when talking about the flu or other diseases and their impact on a population.

People confuse the two often. With covid, it has become downright abused depending on your bias and what point you're trying to prove.

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Interesting coming from you when you are the main person who hs been incorrectly touting the Israel vaccine efficacy numbers….

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naa these numbers prove everything i ever said

if youre young and in shape, its not necessary

if youre old and fat, take the vaccine

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I think it's too low. I was pointing out the hypocrisy of you asking for a more accurate number while providing that one.

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I'll never object to being called a hypocrite (we all are at times), but in this case I'm legit asking for an accurate number.

So far we have a computer model and a few "I think's".

I will say that I also believe the number too low, but I also believe that the definition of a "case" is fuzzy.

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Do you want me to link you saying Israel proves the vaccines don’t work and they aren’t a success?

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50-75% efficacy is not "working"

but its semantics and a circle jerk to argue either way

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50-75% efficacy is not "working"

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Can you please look at the op

Once again this thread is for you

Why is it so hard for you to same how well the vaccine works and how successful it is?