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re: Israel Pfizer efficacy against covid-19 hospitalizations broken down by age group
Posted on 8/18/21 at 12:27 pm to lsupride87
Posted on 8/18/21 at 12:27 pm to lsupride87
i said it works bud, i told my fat arse father to get it just a few days ago
i dont think its necessary for a healthy person like me to get it
i dont think its necessary for a healthy person like me to get it
Posted on 8/18/21 at 12:28 pm to rocket31
quote:You drunk?
i said it works bud,
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50-75% efficacy is not "working"
Posted on 8/18/21 at 12:29 pm to lsupride87
for a healthy young person, its not doing shite. if it does "work", thats a coin flip
This post was edited on 8/18/21 at 12:32 pm
Posted on 8/18/21 at 12:30 pm to The Boat
132 admits a day is a fricking lot when the length of stay for covid is 4-12 days and you still have to take care of everyone else.
Imbecile.
Imbecile.
Posted on 8/18/21 at 12:31 pm to Displaced
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Now do it by education level.
The numbers will look almost identical. Maybe even be skewed to less vaccination for more educated, because anyone with a brain has already figured out what op presented. Many of us have been stating for a long time that the numbers should be broken down by age group. If you break this down even further, I would bet you will find the the 6.2 under 40 are fat or have other health conditions.
Posted on 8/18/21 at 12:34 pm to ell_13
quote:I realize it, that's why I brought it up. The point is both are guesses.
I don't think you realize that it can be both. We KNOW cases got inflated by incorrect tests. We also KNOW that many people got sick and didn't get tested or were asymptomatic. They are not mutually exclusive.
quote:You didn't say "we KNOW" this.
The second group is just much larger than the first.
Look I agree that total cases are likely significantly higher than the confirmed cases. But at this point I am asking whether there is a point in counting them? Do we KNOW that they have acquired a level of immunity similar to more symptomatic cases and/or vaccination?
Posted on 8/18/21 at 12:35 pm to GetCocky11
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I guess our bodies really start wearing down in our 50s.
Yes.
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Or people tend to let themselves go.
Guilty.
Posted on 8/18/21 at 12:55 pm to lsupride87
Damn those numbers are impressive
InB4 the Jews are running the secret society that is trying to depopulate the world
InB4 the Jews are running the secret society that is trying to depopulate the world
Posted on 8/18/21 at 12:58 pm to lsupride87
So Israel made a clear delineation between death FROM Covid and death WITH Covid, correct?
Posted on 8/18/21 at 1:08 pm to STEVED00
quote:I used to be on this train too, until the total US death count came out, and 2020 showed approximately 550,000 more deaths than year before. So, it lines up pretty damn linear with covid death numbers
So Israel made a clear delineation between death FROM Covid and death WITH Covid, correct?
Posted on 8/18/21 at 1:09 pm to GetCocky11
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They've pushed fear that is completely unjustified to try to get compliance.
The poster above who just gave us the newsweek link is doing the same thing, just from the other side.
That's not correct. He provided actual data to support it broken down a bit to what some of us have been asking. The other side as you refer to it, has not provided any useful data like this.
Posted on 8/18/21 at 1:39 pm to lsupride87
quote:They lined up pretty well on a weekly basis throughout 2020, as well, barring the 6-8 week lag in reporting.
I used to be on this train too, until the total US death count came out, and 2020 showed approximately 550,000 more deaths than year before. So, it lines up pretty damn linear with covid death numbers
I know we've gone back and forth in a thread or two, and this pertains to the one where you posted the weekly deaths chart with data that lags (the grey shaded area). It seems to be sourced from the same data as the weekly total deaths, which I believe aren't added until after the CDC receives death cert data. These counts lag further than just the shaded area of the chart, and we can see a hump being backfilled that was not shaded when you posted the chart 2 weeks ago. It will continue filling out until it closely matches the totals from more up-to-date data.
Posted on 8/18/21 at 2:46 pm to lsupride87
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During a peak surges where infection was sky high, that would mean roughly 100 to 132 (if all got infected) new hospital admits a day in Louisiana under the age of 40 if they were all unvaxxed
Exactly. We don’t need kids vaxxed. There is no logical reason for it.
Posted on 8/18/21 at 3:27 pm to GumboPot
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I'm still not convinced the vaccine is the proper route for people like me in the low risk groups.
But here we are...people trying to force medicine on people that otherwise don't need it.
It's a lot like Obamacare. Forcing young healthy people to pay for health insurance, not because they need it, but they needed their participation to help lower costs.
When the Dems force things on America they usually frick it all up and cause much worse conditions and costs.
Posted on 8/18/21 at 3:32 pm to lsupride87
That's a good link.
I am tired of all these sky screaming bloggers and tweet makers making bank by keeping their followers stirred up with number they have spun.
I am tired of all these sky screaming bloggers and tweet makers making bank by keeping their followers stirred up with number they have spun.
Posted on 8/18/21 at 3:50 pm to Bonkers119
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7 Vaccinated Florida Patients Die of COVID; Nurse Calls Situation 'Disturbing'
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As of August 9, more than 166 million people in the U.S. have been fully vaccinated against COVID-19. In that same time, the CDC said they received 8,054 reports of fully vaccinated people either being hospitalized or dying from the virus. The majority of these cases, 5,928—or 74 percent—were in people 65 years old or older.
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So .00004852%
Yeah I read that this morning and thought the same thing. What is disturbing about that number? Seems pretty damn good to me.
But your number should be .00004852 or .004852%. Still amazing though
Posted on 8/18/21 at 3:53 pm to Steadyhands
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If you break this down even further, I would bet you will find the the 6.2 under 40 are fat or have other health conditions.
Good thing most people in the Deep South are lean and healthy
Posted on 8/18/21 at 4:17 pm to lsupride87
On second glance, something doesn’t jive with the numbers in the OP.
Ages 12-40 would have 10 serious cases per 100,000 according to this chart. Ages 12-49 account for about 35% of the state.
That means that if every single person in the state ages 12-40 were infected we would expect 161 serious cases.
That’s if 100% of the population was infected. If 60% have been infected we would expect 96 serious cases under 40 (The entire pandemic up to this point)
Do serious cases mean deaths?
We know for a fact we have had way more serious cases than that in those age groups even though it is extremely rare. Something is off with those numbers.
Ages 12-40 would have 10 serious cases per 100,000 according to this chart. Ages 12-49 account for about 35% of the state.
That means that if every single person in the state ages 12-40 were infected we would expect 161 serious cases.
That’s if 100% of the population was infected. If 60% have been infected we would expect 96 serious cases under 40 (The entire pandemic up to this point)
Do serious cases mean deaths?
We know for a fact we have had way more serious cases than that in those age groups even though it is extremely rare. Something is off with those numbers.
This post was edited on 8/18/21 at 4:18 pm
Posted on 8/18/21 at 4:37 pm to GumboPot
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Said another way, I have a 99.9718% chance of not getting a sever case.
Condoms aren’t even that effective.
Posted on 8/18/21 at 4:47 pm to WaWaWeeWa
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That means that if every single person in the state ages 12-40 were infected we would expect 161 serious cases.
That’s if 100% of the population was infected. If 60% have been infected we would expect 96 serious cases under 40 (The entire pandemic up to this point)
Is this Israeli study based on the Israeli people?
Because if I had to guess Louisiana probably has a higher percentage of fat people than Israel.
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