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re: Israel Pfizer efficacy against covid-19 hospitalizations broken down by age group

Posted on 8/18/21 at 12:27 pm to
Posted by rocket31
Member since Jan 2008
41887 posts
Posted on 8/18/21 at 12:27 pm to
i said it works bud, i told my fat arse father to get it just a few days ago

i dont think its necessary for a healthy person like me to get it
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
111398 posts
Posted on 8/18/21 at 12:28 pm to
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i said it works bud,
You drunk?

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50-75% efficacy is not "working"
Posted by rocket31
Member since Jan 2008
41887 posts
Posted on 8/18/21 at 12:29 pm to


for a healthy young person, its not doing shite. if it does "work", thats a coin flip
This post was edited on 8/18/21 at 12:32 pm
Posted by Tiguar
Montana
Member since Mar 2012
33131 posts
Posted on 8/18/21 at 12:30 pm to
132 admits a day is a fricking lot when the length of stay for covid is 4-12 days and you still have to take care of everyone else.

Imbecile.
Posted by Steadyhands
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Member since May 2016
7155 posts
Posted on 8/18/21 at 12:31 pm to
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Now do it by education level.


The numbers will look almost identical. Maybe even be skewed to less vaccination for more educated, because anyone with a brain has already figured out what op presented. Many of us have been stating for a long time that the numbers should be broken down by age group. If you break this down even further, I would bet you will find the the 6.2 under 40 are fat or have other health conditions.
Posted by Korkstand
Member since Nov 2003
29105 posts
Posted on 8/18/21 at 12:34 pm to
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I don't think you realize that it can be both. We KNOW cases got inflated by incorrect tests. We also KNOW that many people got sick and didn't get tested or were asymptomatic. They are not mutually exclusive.
I realize it, that's why I brought it up. The point is both are guesses.
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The second group is just much larger than the first.
You didn't say "we KNOW" this.

Look I agree that total cases are likely significantly higher than the confirmed cases. But at this point I am asking whether there is a point in counting them? Do we KNOW that they have acquired a level of immunity similar to more symptomatic cases and/or vaccination?
Posted by Floating Change Up
Member since Dec 2013
13022 posts
Posted on 8/18/21 at 12:35 pm to
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I guess our bodies really start wearing down in our 50s.


Yes.

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Or people tend to let themselves go.


Guilty.

Posted by WaWaWeeWa
Member since Oct 2015
15714 posts
Posted on 8/18/21 at 12:55 pm to
Damn those numbers are impressive

InB4 the Jews are running the secret society that is trying to depopulate the world
Posted by STEVED00
Member since May 2007
23156 posts
Posted on 8/18/21 at 12:58 pm to
So Israel made a clear delineation between death FROM Covid and death WITH Covid, correct?
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
111398 posts
Posted on 8/18/21 at 1:08 pm to
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So Israel made a clear delineation between death FROM Covid and death WITH Covid, correct?


I used to be on this train too, until the total US death count came out, and 2020 showed approximately 550,000 more deaths than year before. So, it lines up pretty damn linear with covid death numbers

Posted by Steadyhands
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Member since May 2016
7155 posts
Posted on 8/18/21 at 1:09 pm to
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They've pushed fear that is completely unjustified to try to get compliance.


The poster above who just gave us the newsweek link is doing the same thing, just from the other side.


That's not correct. He provided actual data to support it broken down a bit to what some of us have been asking. The other side as you refer to it, has not provided any useful data like this.
Posted by Korkstand
Member since Nov 2003
29105 posts
Posted on 8/18/21 at 1:39 pm to
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I used to be on this train too, until the total US death count came out, and 2020 showed approximately 550,000 more deaths than year before. So, it lines up pretty damn linear with covid death numbers
They lined up pretty well on a weekly basis throughout 2020, as well, barring the 6-8 week lag in reporting.

I know we've gone back and forth in a thread or two, and this pertains to the one where you posted the weekly deaths chart with data that lags (the grey shaded area). It seems to be sourced from the same data as the weekly total deaths, which I believe aren't added until after the CDC receives death cert data. These counts lag further than just the shaded area of the chart, and we can see a hump being backfilled that was not shaded when you posted the chart 2 weeks ago. It will continue filling out until it closely matches the totals from more up-to-date data.
Posted by WaWaWeeWa
Member since Oct 2015
15714 posts
Posted on 8/18/21 at 2:46 pm to
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During a peak surges where infection was sky high, that would mean roughly 100 to 132 (if all got infected) new hospital admits a day in Louisiana under the age of 40 if they were all unvaxxed


Exactly. We don’t need kids vaxxed. There is no logical reason for it.
Posted by RockyMtnTigerWDE
War Damn Eagle Dad!
Member since Oct 2010
108971 posts
Posted on 8/18/21 at 3:27 pm to
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I'm still not convinced the vaccine is the proper route for people like me in the low risk groups.

But here we are...people trying to force medicine on people that otherwise don't need it.


It's a lot like Obamacare. Forcing young healthy people to pay for health insurance, not because they need it, but they needed their participation to help lower costs.

When the Dems force things on America they usually frick it all up and cause much worse conditions and costs.
Posted by I B Freeman
Member since Oct 2009
27843 posts
Posted on 8/18/21 at 3:32 pm to
That's a good link.

I am tired of all these sky screaming bloggers and tweet makers making bank by keeping their followers stirred up with number they have spun.

Posted by etm512
Mandeville, LA
Member since Aug 2005
21023 posts
Posted on 8/18/21 at 3:50 pm to
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7 Vaccinated Florida Patients Die of COVID; Nurse Calls Situation 'Disturbing'



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As of August 9, more than 166 million people in the U.S. have been fully vaccinated against COVID-19. In that same time, the CDC said they received 8,054 reports of fully vaccinated people either being hospitalized or dying from the virus. The majority of these cases, 5,928—or 74 percent—were in people 65 years old or older.

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So .00004852%



Yeah I read that this morning and thought the same thing. What is disturbing about that number? Seems pretty damn good to me.

But your number should be .00004852 or .004852%. Still amazing though
Posted by Tornado Alley
Member since Mar 2012
28522 posts
Posted on 8/18/21 at 3:53 pm to
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If you break this down even further, I would bet you will find the the 6.2 under 40 are fat or have other health conditions.


Good thing most people in the Deep South are lean and healthy
Posted by WaWaWeeWa
Member since Oct 2015
15714 posts
Posted on 8/18/21 at 4:17 pm to
On second glance, something doesn’t jive with the numbers in the OP.

Ages 12-40 would have 10 serious cases per 100,000 according to this chart. Ages 12-49 account for about 35% of the state.

That means that if every single person in the state ages 12-40 were infected we would expect 161 serious cases.

That’s if 100% of the population was infected. If 60% have been infected we would expect 96 serious cases under 40 (The entire pandemic up to this point)

Do serious cases mean deaths?

We know for a fact we have had way more serious cases than that in those age groups even though it is extremely rare. Something is off with those numbers.

This post was edited on 8/18/21 at 4:18 pm
Posted by SlapahoeTribe
Tiger Nation
Member since Jul 2012
12673 posts
Posted on 8/18/21 at 4:37 pm to
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Said another way, I have a 99.9718% chance of not getting a sever case.

Condoms aren’t even that effective.
Posted by SLafourche07
Member since Feb 2008
10054 posts
Posted on 8/18/21 at 4:47 pm to
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That means that if every single person in the state ages 12-40 were infected we would expect 161 serious cases.

That’s if 100% of the population was infected. If 60% have been infected we would expect 96 serious cases under 40 (The entire pandemic up to this point)



Is this Israeli study based on the Israeli people?

Because if I had to guess Louisiana probably has a higher percentage of fat people than Israel.
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