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Posted on 8/18/21 at 10:45 am to Ingeniero
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Assume my motives one more time and I'll start another cycling thread
Why do you think Klark is fat?
Posted on 8/18/21 at 10:45 am to Ingeniero
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Assume my motives one more time and I'll start another cycling thread
this joke
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my head
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Posted on 8/18/21 at 10:47 am to lsupride87
So again looks like you gonna be just fine if you are young(er) and unvaxxed? But the govt still is gonna force this shite on people so old people have a better chance at living. AWESOME.
Posted on 8/18/21 at 10:48 am to The Boat
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A maximum of 6.2 severe cases per 100,000 for anyone under 40 and unvaccinated
Ummm... why wouldn't you add the totals for those 20-29, 16-19, and 12-15 when discussing anyone under 40
it's still a scary 9.6 per 100k 
Posted on 8/18/21 at 10:48 am to STEVED00
To make it slightly clearer, the OP data says that 1 out of 500k people aged 30-39 vaccinated will get a sever case while 31 out of 500k will get a severe case in not vaxxed. Both scenarios are very, very low.
Most people don’t take action at a 31/500,000 chance.
I wonder what the chances are of me getting in a severe wreck on my way to pick up my son from school. I bet my chances of not getting in that wreck are much lower if I take him out of school and home school him.
That’s the point many make. People take “risks” all the time. If you want to be completely safe from any harm ever, fine. Stay home, don’t eat fried food, don’t drink alcohol, don’t see friends or family. At least you’re alive.
Most people don’t take action at a 31/500,000 chance.
I wonder what the chances are of me getting in a severe wreck on my way to pick up my son from school. I bet my chances of not getting in that wreck are much lower if I take him out of school and home school him.
That’s the point many make. People take “risks” all the time. If you want to be completely safe from any harm ever, fine. Stay home, don’t eat fried food, don’t drink alcohol, don’t see friends or family. At least you’re alive.
Posted on 8/18/21 at 10:49 am to tigafan4life
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So again looks like you gonna be just fine if you are young(er) and unvaxxed? But the govt still is gonna force this shite on people so old people have a better chance at living. AWESOME.
Here is the thing. You will probably be fine but the hospitals may not be bc virus is so contagious. That being said, sone of that is in hospital mismanagement.
Posted on 8/18/21 at 10:51 am to ell_13
Posted on 8/18/21 at 10:51 am to Salmon
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Why do you think Klark is fat?
Posted on 8/18/21 at 10:51 am to LNCHBOX
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This has been the biggest failure by those in charge. They've pushed fear that is completely unjustified to try to get compliance. Now they must deal with a sizeable portion of society that doesn't trust anything they say, and frankly I don't blame anyone that doesn't trust them.
BINGO!
Posted on 8/18/21 at 10:52 am to lsupride87
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your risk is very low to be hospitalized if you are 30, but what is your argument for not taking something that reduces that risk 31 times?
Covid risk for serious illness is 0.006% in 30-39
Vaccine risk for myocarditis (and pericarditis) is 0.0013% for young adults.
If people feel they are healthy and their risk is lower than 0.006% bc they don’t have comorbidities, they have a very good argument to not get the vaccine to avoid myocarditis.
Edit: people 20-29 have an almost equal chance of getting myocarditis from vaccine or severe hospitalization from Covid. This isn’t even accounting for comorbidities.
CDC reference to myocarditis and pericarditis:
LINK
This post was edited on 8/18/21 at 10:58 am
Posted on 8/18/21 at 10:53 am to ell_13
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At least you’re alive.
But are you L-I-V-I-N
Posted on 8/18/21 at 10:53 am to lsupride87
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you cant show me any data on why you shouldnt take the vaccine
While I agree with you, the best part is that it is none of your fricking business what anyone else chooses to do or not do.
Posted on 8/18/21 at 10:54 am to The Boat
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A maximum of 6.2 severe cases per 100,000 for anyone under 40 and unvaccinated but yeah we need to vaxxx everyone over 12
Are we still believing in science? Or does science only matter if the number say you will die if you don’t get vaccinated 100%?
Posted on 8/18/21 at 10:55 am to LNCHBOX
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pushed fear that is completely unjustified to try to get compliance. Now they must deal with a sizeable portion of society that doesn't trust anything they say, and frankly I don't blame anyone that doesn't trust them.
Yep. And a good many of those people will now be weary of ALL vaccines creating outbreaks of legitimately dangerous diseases.
Hubris and the Law of Unintended Consequences
Posted on 8/18/21 at 10:56 am to tigafan4life
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But the govt still is gonna force this shite on people so old people have a better chance at living.
Maybe im crazy, but i dont see this as a bad incentive
Posted on 8/18/21 at 10:57 am to LNCHBOX
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Now they must deal with a sizeable portion of society that doesn't trust anything they say, and frankly I don't blame anyone that doesn't trust them.
Who are these people trusting then for medical advice within this context?
Posted on 8/18/21 at 10:58 am to Lestradamus
quote:Well you might want to add the covid risk for this as well
Vaccine risk for myocarditis (and pericarditis) is 0.0013% for young adults.
.09%
So the vaccine actually helps to reduce this as well
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Myocarditis (or pericarditis or myopericarditis) from primary COVID19 infection occurred at a rate as high as 450 per million in young males. Young males infected with the virus are up 6 times more likely to develop myocarditis as those who have received the vaccine.
This post was edited on 8/18/21 at 11:00 am
Posted on 8/18/21 at 11:01 am to lsupride87
What they don't show is that this is a smaller group of a small group. There are many who won't ever contract Covid regardless if they take the vaccine or not. It's not 100% of people getting it by far. I wish we had real numbers because I'm betting it's less than half our population is able to fight it naturally.
Posted on 8/18/21 at 11:02 am to lsupride87
Careful…mouth breathers won’t like this one
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