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re: Is 400 Push-ups in an Hour Considered an Extreme Workout for a TX 6A Football Program?
Posted on 1/12/23 at 10:07 am to lsu777
Posted on 1/12/23 at 10:07 am to lsu777
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i dunno but 400 in an hour isnt some crazy volume wise.
8 hospitalized kids, some with organ failure, makes it sound pretty crazy.
Posted on 1/12/23 at 10:08 am to TigerDeacon
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So, in a 8 hour school day that is divided into 8 periods (at least) with lunch that's less than 50 minutes a class. Considering time to change into and out of workout clothes, you are talking about 40 minutes of actual workout time so you are averaging 10 pushups a minute.
after reading more...sounds like it was sets of 16 and in between other drills they were doing. also like you said it was in much less time than an hour
so after reading....I readily admit maybe i was assuming way too much and WAS WRONG
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In the end, any workout that sends at least 8 kids to the hospital is, by definition, extreme.
or that the kids are way out of shape. either way, even if i think the kids should have been able to do that, the coach absolutely should have noticed that there was a problem. recovery and ability to perform is not always at 100% and unreasonable to assume it is. coach should have saw the signs.
in the end the workout is stupid though and doesnt provide anythign in the form of making a kid better at athletics
Posted on 1/12/23 at 10:08 am to JohnnyKilroy
quote:Yeh, coach and posters here are dumbasses
8 hospitalized kids, some with organ failure, makes it sound pretty crazy.
Posted on 1/12/23 at 10:09 am to lsu777
quote:dude, high volume training mike this extreme is unbelievably stupid. It’s why even elite cross-fitters that are fit as frick get rhabdo
or that the kids are way out of shape
Posted on 1/12/23 at 10:11 am to lsu777
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so after reading....I readily admit maybe i was assuming way too much and WAS WRONG
You're a better man than most of the OT
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Posted on 1/12/23 at 10:12 am to lsupride87
This thread has delved into whether not 400 push ups is possible, when the real question should be, what's even the purpose? For punishment? This coach is a joke.
Posted on 1/12/23 at 10:12 am to lsu777
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we work up doing tons of pushups over the course of a day until you can do 100 in 2 min. and yea i cant do that right now but when i was 15-18 i easily could. hell i could with 8 weeks to train pretty easily.
At that time I could also knock out 100 pushups. In 8 weeks, yes, most people should be able to train up to doing 100 pushups. But 400 is a heck of a difference from 100.
Even at my best, after I did 100 pushups my arms were fatigued. There was zero chance I could muster up 300 more on the spot.
I dont doubt that there are people who can do 400. Hell, I remember hearing stories of how Herschel Walker used to do 1000 pushups daily along with his other workout routines. But then again he is also one of the most elite athletes to walk the planet lol.
Posted on 1/12/23 at 10:13 am to DingLeeBerry
Let's get into some stats here. In 2008 the US had 4.2 million births, so lets say 2 million males. Lets say that the NFL is filled with 20-30 year olds, and there are a total of 1700 active players. 2 million boys born over a 10 year period is 20 million, divided into 1700 players is 0.000085.
Now tell me, with the available data, what's the point of a high school kid doing 400 pushups in an hour?
Now tell me, with the available data, what's the point of a high school kid doing 400 pushups in an hour?
This post was edited on 1/12/23 at 10:14 am
Posted on 1/12/23 at 10:14 am to lsupride87
Like I said earlier I think most posters in this thread (props to 777 for admitting wrong) look at 7ish push ups in a single minute and think “hey that’s easy as shite”And it is for a non-fatass.
But doing 7 pushups in a minute would be hard as a motherfricker if you had already completed 300 within the previous 43 minutes.
But doing 7 pushups in a minute would be hard as a motherfricker if you had already completed 300 within the previous 43 minutes.
Posted on 1/12/23 at 10:15 am to lsupride87
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dude, high volume training mike this extreme is unbelievably stupid. It’s why even elite cross-fitters that are fit as frick get rhabdo
no i 100% agree and said the workout was retarded from the beginning just not crazy overall rep wise. but its a dumbass workout that shouldnt be done to begin with
but in the end they were doign sets of 16 between other drills according to 1 player that is the team capitian and it was punishment for not getting drills right
also when you factor in a period, if there are 8 in a day as article says, then its way less than an hour after dressing etc. more like 35-40 min max so essentially they averaged 25 sets of 16. so a set of 16 every 65-70 seconds in between other drills.
thats way way different than 7 pushup emom which would give you a 4:1 rest ratio at worse
Posted on 1/12/23 at 10:17 am to Bmath
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If you have an hour, that’s only about 7 pushups each minute.
Right...for a fricking hour straight
There is probably not a single person in this thread that could do 400 pushups in an hour
Posted on 1/12/23 at 10:17 am to JohnnyKilroy
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8 hospitalized kids, some with organ failure, makes it sound pretty crazy.
No no no…these so-called “varsity athletes” are just soft, you see.
Pussification of America is how any of these losers made the team in the first place. In my day when everyone was 6’2 225 running 4.3 40s, we would have had some leftover bagged milk, took a 30 second recovery and went on to stadium steps for another hour.
Posted on 1/12/23 at 10:20 am to GetCocky11
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Yeah, well forgive me for not taking the words of a high school kid seriously
Yet, you'll take the word of a mother of one of the non-hackers that it was actually 400.
Posted on 1/12/23 at 10:20 am to JohnnyKilroy
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Like I said earlier I think most posters in this thread (props to 777 for admitting wrong) look at 7ish push ups in a single minute and think “hey that’s easy as shite”And it is for a non-fatass.
Same people who saw someone (not themselves mind you) run a 6ish minute mile and think, “Yeah I can do a half-marathon in 90 minutes easy”.
Posted on 1/12/23 at 10:20 am to QJenk
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At that time I could also knock out 100 pushups. In 8 weeks, yes, most people should be able to train up to doing 100 pushups. But 400 is a heck of a difference from 100.
Even at my best, after I did 100 pushups my arms were fatigued. There was zero chance I could muster up 300 more on the spot.
I dont doubt that there are people who can do 400. Hell, I remember hearing stories of how Herschel Walker used to do 1000 pushups daily along with his other workout routines. But then again he is also one of the most elite athletes to walk the planet lol.
to accomplish the 100 in 2 min i was doing over 500 a day but that was over the course of a day and i worked up to it
after reading more into this is kind of what this boils down to
1- set of 16 pushups every 65s on average and completed 25 sets as the period is only 50min plus you have to factor dress out time.
2- between pushups they were runnign drills
3- some say they were denied water...not sure if that is true but to complete the amount of pushups they did, they couldnt have had much time for water
and they was no real recovery, it was active recovery at best, more exercise at worse
1) coach is retarded for not recognizing the signs of rhabdo
2) coach is retarded for thinking this workout was goign to help his team get better. any coach that thinks this kind of workout or running 110s like moffit used to do is helping is dumb. exercise and conditioning does not create mental toughness at all, just zaps recovery and makes performance go down when over done which is obviously the case here
Posted on 1/12/23 at 10:21 am to LSU Coyote
quote:the guy that posts 50,000 pictures of his dog trying to act like a hard arse.
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Posted on 1/12/23 at 10:23 am to LSU Coyote
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400pushups within an hour at 16+?
For a healthy not overweight kid, would say no.
For an overweight kid, yes
I find it hilarious to see all the macho posts. An eight grader today and back in the 1980s could not do 400 pushups in an hour. That is abuse of the coach's authority.
I see all these people posting about the military standards. Those standards are set for adult males. A 11 year old eight grader is not going to be able to do that without hurting themselves.
The power the coach holds over someone that young and impressionable, he should be removed from his coaching duties immediately.
Posted on 1/12/23 at 10:27 am to lsu777
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2) coach is retarded for thinking this workout was goign to help his team get better. any coach that thinks this kind of workout or running 110s like moffit used to do is helping is dumb. exercise and conditioning does not create mental toughness at all, just zaps recovery and makes performance go down when over done which is obviously the case here
This right here.
What on earth does 400 pushups do for a football player? 400 yards of lunges would be equally grueling and at least beneficial.
Posted on 1/12/23 at 10:28 am to FreddieMac
quote:wait what? an 11 year old is a 5th grader
A 11 year old eight grader is not going to be able to do that without hurting themselve
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8th grade is 13-14.
agree with your post, just thought i would point that you were way off on that
Posted on 1/12/23 at 10:32 am to Pedro
How come coaches never make the offensive line learn blocking assignments for an hour as punishment?
Seriously, I probably sprinted accross the United States (mileage wise) in High School. Oh, we were in shape! But half the offense didn't know wtf to do and I had to tell the DT which direction to go on about every 3rd play. In the 4th quarter down by 30 we really needed that conditioning!
Seriously, I probably sprinted accross the United States (mileage wise) in High School. Oh, we were in shape! But half the offense didn't know wtf to do and I had to tell the DT which direction to go on about every 3rd play. In the 4th quarter down by 30 we really needed that conditioning!
This post was edited on 1/12/23 at 10:33 am
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