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re: Hugh Thompson and the My Lai Massacre during the Vietnam War
Posted on 4/18/18 at 10:40 am to celltech1981
Posted on 4/18/18 at 10:40 am to celltech1981
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yes indeed. The whole Nuremberg defense (but i was just following orders) doesn't fly. Even if Calley was just following orders he had a duty to disobey them.
At least he served some time. Capt. Medina got off scott-free. 1 person out of 26 received any punishment, that's just sad.
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Posted on 4/18/18 at 11:33 am to Mac
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Thompson died in Pineville and is buried in Lafayette
I met Mr. Thompson in 2000 at Barnes & Noble (Lafayette) around the same time his book came out. I'm a counselor by profession and he was working at the VA as a counselor. Probably spent 45 minutes talking about where we were both from and helping people with life problems. Very genuine and compassionate as I could tell he cared more for others than himself.
My office is off Pinhook near the Memorial Cemetery where he was buried. I took off work early the day of his funeral to salute the procession as it passed by and to pay my respect. I have a copy of his book and think about Mr. Thompson several times per year
Posted on 4/18/18 at 11:37 am to terd ferguson
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terd ferguson
fricking idiot
Posted on 4/18/18 at 11:53 am to 14&Counting
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You guys think this was bad? Try reading up on the American Indian wars conducted after the Civil War and before the 20th Century. Too many My Lai type incidents to count. Pure calculated genocide
Point ceded. With a Truth Caveat that many called it out at the time and that it coincided with the morality of 19th century humans beings world wide-including the Indians themselves. The history of mankind is tragic, violent and dark. Which is precisely why we should be eternally grateful that guys like Hugh Thompson are now the American norm and guys like Calley are the exception. That's certainly not the case all over the globe.
Posted on 4/18/18 at 1:04 pm to GetCocky11
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A firing squad would have been an appropriate punishment for some of our troops, especially Lieutenant Calley.
GTFO with this bullshite. Calley was made the scapegoat. The politicians who sent U.S. troops to Southeast Asia and then wouldn’t let them fight to win are the ones who deserved a firing squad.
Posted on 4/18/18 at 1:08 pm to samson73103
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GTFO with this bullshite. Calley was made the scapegoat. The politicians who sent U.S. troops to Southeast Asia and then wouldn’t let them fight to win are the ones who deserved a firing squad.
So fighting to win involved slaughtering innocents?
This post was edited on 4/18/18 at 1:09 pm
Posted on 4/18/18 at 1:13 pm to Draconian Sanctions
We're no different than any other country.
Aaaaaaand there's the Draconian moral relativism making it's appearance. "Any other country"? Really? We are morally no better than Iran? North Korea? Zimbabwe? We are by no means perfect. But you may want to sit this one out and think about your stupidity.
Aaaaaaand there's the Draconian moral relativism making it's appearance. "Any other country"? Really? We are morally no better than Iran? North Korea? Zimbabwe? We are by no means perfect. But you may want to sit this one out and think about your stupidity.
Posted on 4/18/18 at 1:20 pm to SoFla Tideroller
He did it yesterday too. "We were evil for dropping the bombs on Japan!" 
Posted on 4/18/18 at 1:31 pm to Korin
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He did it yesterday too. "We were evil for dropping the bombs on Japan!"
...and he got skull drug for over 20 pages.
Posted on 4/18/18 at 1:36 pm to GetCocky11
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So fighting to win involved slaughtering innocents?
Never said that. But the VietCong hid among the villagers and troops were in a damned if you do, damned if you don’t situation. I’ve just never believed Calley acted unilaterally. He was just the fall guy. It’s all hindsight but the entire way we went about that war was fricked up. Politicians should never make military decisions and that’s exactly what happened in Vietnam. Our guys were not allowed to fight to win and if that’s the case then we should’ve just stayed home to begin with.
Posted on 4/18/18 at 1:45 pm to samson73103
We should've never been there in the first place (and that's probably why JFK was murdered). frick LBJ.
Posted on 4/18/18 at 3:15 pm to Korin
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"We were evil for dropping the bombs on Japan!"
I never said that or anything even close to it, in fact i said the opposite 6 or 7 times.
Some of y'all have really poor reading comprehension skills.
Posted on 4/18/18 at 3:27 pm to celltech1981
"Well, you see Willard, in this war, things get confused out there"
Posted on 4/18/18 at 3:51 pm to celltech1981
Vietnam was such a disgrace of a war for this country. So many good young men dead for absolutely nothing 
Posted on 4/18/18 at 6:50 pm to BowlJackson
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Vietnam was such a disgrace of a war for this country. So many good young men dead for absolutely nothing
Yup. What really bugs me is how people who get mad at folks for not supporting the troops are often the same ones who want to send them in to danger when it isn't needed. Supporting the troops should mean not wanting to send them to die if it can be helped.
Posted on 4/18/18 at 7:07 pm to celltech1981
I never really thought about it, but America can't really claim historical morality over nazi Germany
We tried and almost wiped out an entire race with the native Americans
Sound familiar?
We tried and almost wiped out an entire race with the native Americans
Sound familiar?
Posted on 4/18/18 at 7:27 pm to celltech1981
That’s a pretty disturbing picture.
Posted on 4/18/18 at 7:50 pm to 14&Counting
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You guys think this was bad? Try reading up on the American Indian wars conducted after the Civil War and before the 20th Century. Too many My Lai type incidents to count.
Pure calculated genocide
The Sand Creek Massacre was one. Colorado militia led by a Methodist minister annihilated a Cheyenne village who had signed a peace treaty and were flying an American flag. Women were raped, people of all ages and both sexes were murdered, bodies were mutilated. The Denver newspaper cheered it on.
Some of the survivors were at the Little Bighorn 12 years later and exacted their own form of justice.
Posted on 4/18/18 at 7:54 pm to The Boat
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We should have just dropped a nuke on their mud huts.
Wouldn't have done that much actually. There's nothing more powerful close up, but the inverse square law guarantees a sharp drop-off with distance.
It doesn't help much to blast every village within a 5-10 mile radius in a country that is a thousand or so miles long.
Posted on 4/18/18 at 8:14 pm to Eli Goldfinger
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It was horrific, but remember this - the Plain Dealer is a commie publication, so they’re skewed.
That's stupid. The Plain Dealer was a solid and well respected publication at that time.
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