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Hugh Thompson and the My Lai Massacre during the Vietnam War
Posted on 4/18/18 at 6:59 am
Posted on 4/18/18 at 6:59 am
I had known of the My Lai Massacre (504 or 347 Vietnamese civilians killed by U.S. Soldiers in 1968) but I had never known the full story of it. Hugh Thompson is a true hero for standing up to fellow Americans when they were doing evil acts. We need more like him.
Hugh was a recon helicopter pilot. He and his crew were flying over My Lai to look for Viet Cong fighters.
Old women, old men, children, and babies were slaughtered.
Hugh's actions were not really acknowledged until 1998 when he was awarded the Soldiers Medal. I wonder how many more innocent lives would have been lost if he had not stepped up.
Some sources say that 347 were killed...still a staggering number.
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Hugh was a recon helicopter pilot. He and his crew were flying over My Lai to look for Viet Cong fighters.
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"We started noticing these large numbers of bodies everywhere," he told me, "people on the road dead, wounded. And just sitting there saying, 'God, how'd this happen? What's going on?' And we started thinking what might have happened, but you didn't want to accept that thought — because if you accepted it, that means your own fellow Americans, people you were there to protect, were doing something very evil."
Old women, old men, children, and babies were slaughtered.
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Then Thompson and his crew chief, Glenn Andreotta, and his gunner, Lawrence Colburn, "saw some civilians hiding in a bunker, cowering, looking out the door. Saw some advancing Americans coming that way. I just figured it was time to do something, to not let these people get killed. Landed the aircraft in between the Americans and the Vietnamese, told my crew chief and gunner to cover me, got out of the aircraft, went over to the American side."
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What happened next was one of the most remarkable events of the entire war, and perhaps unique: Thompson told the American troops that, if they opened fire on the Vietnamese civilians in the bunker, he and his crew would open fire on them.
Hugh's actions were not really acknowledged until 1998 when he was awarded the Soldiers Medal. I wonder how many more innocent lives would have been lost if he had not stepped up.
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By the time the My Lai massacre ended, 504 people were dead. Among the victims were 182 women—17 of them pregnant—and 173 children, including 56 infants.
Some sources say that 347 were killed...still a staggering number.
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Nick Turse investigated violence in Vietnam against noncombatants for his book “Kill Anything that Moves.” He concluded — after a decade of research in Pentagon archives and more than 100 interviews with American veterans and Vietnamese survivors — that Americans killing civilians in Vietnam was “pervasive and systematic.” One soldier told him there had been "a My Lai a month."
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This post was edited on 4/18/18 at 7:36 am
Posted on 4/18/18 at 7:05 am to celltech1981
A very dark chapter in our military history.
A firing squad would have been an appropriate punishment for some of our troops, especially Lieutenant Calley.
A firing squad would have been an appropriate punishment for some of our troops, especially Lieutenant Calley.
This post was edited on 4/18/18 at 7:06 am
Posted on 4/18/18 at 7:08 am to GetCocky11
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A firing squad would have been an appropriate punishment for some of our troops, especially Lieutenant Calley.
yes indeed. The whole Nuremberg defense (but i was just following orders) doesn't fly. Even if Calley was just following orders he had a duty to disobey them.
Posted on 4/18/18 at 7:08 am to celltech1981
It was horrific, but remember this - the Plain Dealer is a commie publication, so they’re skewed.
Posted on 4/18/18 at 7:13 am to terd ferguson
His actions doesn’t mark him as a Blue Falcon, AKA Buddy fricker. What those soldiers did was murder. There are rules we follow under UCMJ and ROE, even in a brutal gurellia war such as Vietnam.
Posted on 4/18/18 at 7:14 am to Eli Goldfinger
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the Plain Dealer is a commie publication, so they’re skewed.
I didn't read the plain dealer article. I just used the picture showing some of the bodies. A lot of the other photos were in color and probably nsfw.
Posted on 4/18/18 at 7:18 am to celltech1981
Elizabeth D. Samet talks about this a little in her book, Soldier's Heart. It's an interesting read. Some of the book is a little dry, but her discussion on the Lieutenant is well-thought.
Posted on 4/18/18 at 7:54 am to celltech1981
A truly savage war, civilians, women, children caught in the middle , getting it randomly from both sides. Not what I want to think about this morning.
Posted on 4/18/18 at 8:05 am to Lsupimp
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Not what I want to think about this morning.
it was pretty uncomfortable for me to read about it. It's hard to think about America being the bad guy at times.
Posted on 4/18/18 at 8:12 am to celltech1981
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It's hard to think about America being the bad guy at times.
Why? We're no different than any other country. We've done good things and we've done bad things.
I've never understood the need some have to pretend we're some pure virtuous nation.
This post was edited on 4/18/18 at 8:14 am
Posted on 4/18/18 at 8:16 am to Draconian Sanctions
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I've never understood the need some have to pretend we're some pure virtuous nation.
Believing you have the moral high ground has been militarily important, historically. It helps keep morale up among soldiers and civilians, and people are more willing to risk dying for a just cause.
Posted on 4/18/18 at 8:19 am to Crowknowsbest
People drinking the propaganda kool aid as a kid or young adult is one thing, but to keep on drinking it past your mid 20's or so is something else.
Posted on 4/18/18 at 8:20 am to Draconian Sanctions
We should have just dropped a nuke on their mud huts.
Posted on 4/18/18 at 8:22 am to celltech1981
He spoke at a military event I attended, either my ROTC detachment or Louisiana Army National Guard - it's just all blurry now - in the 1990s or early aughts. He was a really humble guy who was damaged by all that experience.
We had more like him - he didn't get any press until the 1990s - the bad guys like Calley and Medina get all the media attention because of the narrative.
Far more American troops are like Thompson than Calley.
Thompson was working with the VA counseling veterans until he couldn't do it anymore. Almost all of that was done in or from Louisiana. RIP.
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We need more like him.
We had more like him - he didn't get any press until the 1990s - the bad guys like Calley and Medina get all the media attention because of the narrative.
Far more American troops are like Thompson than Calley.
Thompson was working with the VA counseling veterans until he couldn't do it anymore. Almost all of that was done in or from Louisiana. RIP.
Posted on 4/18/18 at 8:22 am to Draconian Sanctions
MacArthur wanted to nuke the commies in Korea.
Posted on 4/18/18 at 8:23 am to Draconian Sanctions
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People drinking the propaganda kool aid as a kid or young adult is one thing, but to keep on drinking it past your mid 20's or so is something else.
If you want to win a war on foreign soil, you better get people to drink that koolaid.
Posted on 4/18/18 at 8:25 am to Crowknowsbest
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If you want to win a war on foreign soil, you better get people to drink that koolaid.
okay but i'm talking about right now
Posted on 4/18/18 at 8:28 am to Draconian Sanctions
We certainly aren’t pure but we have always been virtuous. Ask a random Vietnamese person what they think of American virtues versus Vietnamese virtues and you may be pleasantly surprised. Things are very , very difficult for them under the kind of arbitrary Communism they are subjected to.The lesson of MyLai itself is an example of American virtue, on the part of those who risked their own status to intervene and a society that openly grappled with the meaning of My Lai. Trust me, in Vietnam there is no commensurate honest discussion about far worse and far more numerous Viet Cong Massacres. While we failed at My Lai , we also speak of it honestly as a People. Counts for something.
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