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re: How do we stop the issue of kids with no involved father?
Posted on 6/26/22 at 12:53 pm to LSUFanHouston
Posted on 6/26/22 at 12:53 pm to LSUFanHouston
Easy solution to cut 80% of the problem.
100% of all government benefits of a man go to his children starting the day the child is born. All unemployment, welfare, rent assistance, food stamps, free cellphone, free internet, school grants etc.
If a man under 18 fathers a child their mom loses benefits and the benefits go tot the new child.
Couple this policy with 15,000 dollars for a operation to sterilize anyone under 25 who wants one.
100% of all government benefits of a man go to his children starting the day the child is born. All unemployment, welfare, rent assistance, food stamps, free cellphone, free internet, school grants etc.
If a man under 18 fathers a child their mom loses benefits and the benefits go tot the new child.
Couple this policy with 15,000 dollars for a operation to sterilize anyone under 25 who wants one.
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Posted on 6/26/22 at 12:54 pm to LSUFanHouston
Offer $10K for sterilization. The vast majority of those dependent on the welfare state will take the money.
Posted on 6/26/22 at 12:55 pm to LSUFanHouston
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So... how do we fix this problem?
Go back in time.
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Can we fix this problem?
For the current generation of children? No. We could change it for future generations, but the political desire to do so is effectively zero. So, no.
At least it took Rome a few hundred years to fall.
This post was edited on 6/26/22 at 12:55 pm
Posted on 6/26/22 at 12:55 pm to LSUFanHouston
Bring back shaming.
Posted on 6/26/22 at 1:00 pm to LSUFanHouston
Put guys who pay zero child support and spend no time with their children in jail.
Posted on 6/26/22 at 1:02 pm to sugar71
Considering the villages in this country are largely made up of shitbags, that strategy needs to go by the wayside.
Maybe just be a father to your kids and not rely on others
Maybe just be a father to your kids and not rely on others
Posted on 6/26/22 at 1:03 pm to LSUFanHouston
Forcing women and men to have kids they don't want or can't take care of seems highly unlikely to produce:
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two parents that are involved and love each other
Posted on 6/26/22 at 1:04 pm to tigergirl10
quote:Yeah, what Walt said.
Put guys who pay zero child support and spend no time with their children in jail.
Put dead beat dads and their children in jail.
This post was edited on 6/26/22 at 1:05 pm
Posted on 6/26/22 at 1:04 pm to RogerTheShrubber
quote:Men are the ones getting women pregnant. Men are also capable of wearing condoms.
women will become more responsible for their own health and learn to prevent this
Why are so many guys allowed to have children often multiple and pay very little or often zero child support and spend no time raising their children with zero consequences? Put these deadbeats in jail.
Posted on 6/26/22 at 1:05 pm to lsusteve1
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Put God & Morals back on the agenda.
Keep God out of legislation, please.
Posted on 6/26/22 at 1:05 pm to LSUFanHouston
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the issue of kids with no involved father
This is the cause of every major issue in our society. It would solve issues relating to education, poverty, mental illnesses, liberalism, etc.
And since no one wants to address this root cause, our country will continue to hurt.
Posted on 6/26/22 at 1:13 pm to mattz1122
How is the biblical order of family working?
I know people who grew up in a household with a mother and father, who were ultra-religious and ended up in an out of jail, addicted to drugs, etc.
There are males who grew up without a father and ended up being a great father (don't get me wrong, I think kids need a male presence in their life, but sometimes its best if its not their real father).
All of these formulas and role expectations are great in a perfect world, but we don't live in a perfect world.
What if a child has shite parents and he/she gets to an age where they realize their parents are not doing what's best for the children, should the child continue to obey?
If a child has abusive parents, should they still love their parents?
The answer to your question is... to live in a perfect world.
I know people who grew up in a household with a mother and father, who were ultra-religious and ended up in an out of jail, addicted to drugs, etc.
There are males who grew up without a father and ended up being a great father (don't get me wrong, I think kids need a male presence in their life, but sometimes its best if its not their real father).
All of these formulas and role expectations are great in a perfect world, but we don't live in a perfect world.
What if a child has shite parents and he/she gets to an age where they realize their parents are not doing what's best for the children, should the child continue to obey?
If a child has abusive parents, should they still love their parents?
The answer to your question is... to live in a perfect world.
Posted on 6/26/22 at 1:15 pm to tigergirl10
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Put guys who pay zero child support and spend no time with their children in jail.
How does that help anyone in this scenario? The fathers aren't providing economically for the mother or the child, the taxpayer is paying for them, and in the event they do decide they want to try to be a father, they now can't because they're in jail. When they get out of jail, they now have the prison stigma which will pretty much bar them from most productive employment. That's fighting fire with fire.
Posted on 6/26/22 at 1:17 pm to OweO
quote:you trot out that argument a lot
The answer to your question is... to live in a perfect world.
how about we return to the traditional/conservative standards that made us better, not perfect
having high standards/expectations is not hoping for a perfect world, it's working toward a better one.
We know what works, human history has taught us , stop ignoring the best and focusing on the worst
Posted on 6/26/22 at 1:21 pm to tigergirl10
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Men are the ones getting women pregnant. Men are also capable of wearing condoms.
I agree. I think its common knowledge men can be shitheads, people need to make better choices.
When I was in HS, my biggest fear was getting someone pregnant. So much so I made sure I took care of things properly.
If you have two people behaving responsibly, you're way better off. But the woman is always the gatekeeper.
Posted on 6/26/22 at 1:23 pm to LSUFanHouston
Hold each other accountable as men of God.
Posted on 6/26/22 at 1:25 pm to tigergirl10
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Men are the ones getting women pregnant. Men are also capable of wearing condoms. Why are so many guys allowed to have children often multiple and pay very little or often zero child support and spend no time raising their children with zero consequences? Put these deadbeats in jail.
I agree with you. It’s amazing how fast money appears, after crying they have no money, when they get put in handcuffs. Depends on the judge and mostly the type of judges your party likes to elect.
Posted on 6/26/22 at 1:26 pm to LSUFanHouston
End the welfare state. The government has replaced dads as the providers, leaving the children to be raised by the streets.
Posted on 6/26/22 at 1:29 pm to OweO
You’re using a small percentage of cases to represent the whole, just to support a preconceived notions. You leftists do this constantly.
Posted on 6/26/22 at 1:31 pm to OweO
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I know people who grew up in a household with a mother and father, who were ultra-religious and ended up in an out of jail, addicted to drugs, etc.
you don’t have a single statistic to prove it’s even on the same level or remotely close. this entire post is ignorant slanted bullshite Chris.
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