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re: How do we stop the issue of kids with no involved father?

Posted on 6/26/22 at 1:33 pm to
Posted by Klark Kent
Houston via BR
Member since Jan 2008
67051 posts
Posted on 6/26/22 at 1:33 pm to
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Forcing women and men to have kids they don't want or can't take care of seems highly unlikely to produce:


fair, but subsidizing single parent homes clearly isn’t the answer either is it?
Posted by Steadyhands
Slightly above I-10
Member since May 2016
6824 posts
Posted on 6/26/22 at 1:44 pm to
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Forcing women and men to have kids they don't want or can't take care of seems highly unlikely to produce:

quote:
two parents that are involved and love each other


So let's just keep allowing them to be irresponsible pos and kill all the babies they want? There isn't a perfect solution to the problem other than starting somewhere working towards breaking the cycle.

If an adult (technically 2 adults) that doesn't want children (whether it be they're just not ready yet, or ever) cannot manage to prevent a pregnancy, then they likely aren't capable of being productive members of society either. It is not that difficult, especially not to the point where abortion is the only option.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
261766 posts
Posted on 6/26/22 at 1:46 pm to
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So let's just keep allowing them to be irresponsible pos


Crux of the problem, we subsidize and promote terrible behavior.

Posted by thegambler
Louisiana
Member since Oct 2012
1447 posts
Posted on 6/26/22 at 1:54 pm to
Culture change.
Posted by nwacajun
St louis
Member since Dec 2008
1498 posts
Posted on 6/26/22 at 2:23 pm to
Get government out of people's lives so much.
Posted by jkylejohnson
Alexandria
Member since Dec 2016
14021 posts
Posted on 6/26/22 at 2:23 pm to
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Offer 10k for sterilization


Would drastically reduce crime eventually as well.
Posted by Lawyered
The Sip
Member since Oct 2016
29504 posts
Posted on 6/26/22 at 3:20 pm to
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Stop the government from funding babies.


If you removed the safety nets, I wonder how quickly behaviors would change
Posted by PassingThrough
Member since Sep 2021
2622 posts
Posted on 6/26/22 at 3:32 pm to
It would change, but I don’t think in the way you imagine.

Y’all remind me of some techs I used to work with who kept bitching about “ the welfare state” not for minute thinking about the fact their own kids were getting health care via the state-run child heath initiative.
Posted by baobabtiger
Member since May 2009
4736 posts
Posted on 6/26/22 at 3:56 pm to
Jesus.
Posted by moneyg
Member since Jun 2006
56736 posts
Posted on 6/26/22 at 3:59 pm to
quote:

How do we stop the issue of kids with no involved father?



We don't stop it by murdering the kids.
Posted by USMCguy121
Northshore
Member since Aug 2021
6332 posts
Posted on 6/26/22 at 4:01 pm to
The only real solution is societal and culture change and i'm not sure either can happen without some kind of hard reset.
Posted by BoogalooCopperpot
In my own head
Member since Jan 2021
458 posts
Posted on 6/26/22 at 4:04 pm to
Can never stop it; that’s reality. Seriously it’s time you’ll never get back thinking about how to fix it. Not fixable. Period.
Posted by TexasTiger08
Member since Oct 2006
25538 posts
Posted on 6/26/22 at 4:06 pm to
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Fatherless homes have only increased since Roe. Its a dumb gotcha


I’m not sure this is because of Roe, or because of the countless other incentives the govt has given to the lowest. Our govt has done everything humanly possible to incentivize poverty.
Posted by moneyg
Member since Jun 2006
56736 posts
Posted on 6/26/22 at 4:07 pm to
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Society has purposely crushed the nuclear family. There is no going back.



Don't agree with that.

Christians have kept it alive. There is a solution.
Posted by NYNolaguy1
Member since May 2011
20941 posts
Posted on 6/26/22 at 4:09 pm to
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How do we stop the issue of kids with no involved father?


By eliminating condoms/birth control, promoting abstinence, and enacting natural family planning.

If fathers were actually held to their actions they would be having a lot less sex.
Posted by TexasTiger08
Member since Oct 2006
25538 posts
Posted on 6/26/22 at 4:10 pm to
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Put guys who pay zero child support and spend no time with their children in jail.




The DA in New Orleans won’t even prosecute 60% of the shite that rolls across his desk. He won’t even keep murderers in jail.
Posted by TexasTiger08
Member since Oct 2006
25538 posts
Posted on 6/26/22 at 4:12 pm to
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By eliminating condoms/birth control, promoting abstinence, and enacting natural family planning.


You are underestimating the stupidity of the majority of people that actually get paid to make the decisions. Your approach might work for the overachievers. Walk into any public school and preach abstinence, let’s see the impact it has.
Posted by BoogalooCopperpot
In my own head
Member since Jan 2021
458 posts
Posted on 6/26/22 at 4:12 pm to
Posted by genuineLSUtiger
Nashville
Member since Sep 2005
73053 posts
Posted on 6/26/22 at 4:12 pm to
The rot has progressed too far to rectify. Total and utter societal collapse is on the horizon.
Posted by NYNolaguy1
Member since May 2011
20941 posts
Posted on 6/26/22 at 4:13 pm to
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You are underestimating the stupidity of the majority of people that actually get paid to make the decisions.


I found the issue.
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