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re: How did most C-Suite Execs get to that position?
Posted on 5/14/24 at 7:49 pm to Jim Rockford
Posted on 5/14/24 at 7:49 pm to Jim Rockford
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You don't get to that level in any organization without having some sociopathic tendencies.
My older brother is a CFO, hes definitely on the spectrum.
Posted on 5/14/24 at 7:52 pm to DiamondDog
I got my position by winning the yearly Sonic Battle Royale. If you haven’t heard of it, toughen your knuckles.
Posted on 5/14/24 at 7:55 pm to DiamondDog
I've met some people that were on the dot leaders...one in particular that was in short, amazing. A leader, knew how to communicate, and knew the bullshite and communicated in a way.
I know of complete dumbasses that fell arse-first into their positions. They have no humility and are drains on everyone. Yet somehow, are protected.
Some people, it is a bit of luck or right place right time. Some are driven which puts them into a position to leave for better opportunities (placing themselves in the right place right time).
I know of complete dumbasses that fell arse-first into their positions. They have no humility and are drains on everyone. Yet somehow, are protected.
Some people, it is a bit of luck or right place right time. Some are driven which puts them into a position to leave for better opportunities (placing themselves in the right place right time).
Posted on 5/14/24 at 7:57 pm to DiamondDog
I think a lot of it depends on industry. Technical industies tend to promote technical superor people (unless the company is named Boeing).
Going to a high level B-School tends to help in a lot of major companies.
Going to a high level B-School tends to help in a lot of major companies.
Posted on 5/14/24 at 7:59 pm to DiamondDog
I work for a Fortune 500 company and most of our C-Suite folks have been with the company a very long time. Heck even a lot of our VP’s and Senior VP’s have been hired from within and have been there a while.
I’ve been there 22 years and I’m just a dumb outside sales rep. Have no desire to move up and manage people. I was a supervisor for 3 years and I’d rather cold call everyday than have people call out because their tummy hurts.
I’ve been there 22 years and I’m just a dumb outside sales rep. Have no desire to move up and manage people. I was a supervisor for 3 years and I’d rather cold call everyday than have people call out because their tummy hurts.
Posted on 5/14/24 at 8:00 pm to DiamondDog
If you were eventually going to get a C-suite spot, you would already know it.
Posted on 5/14/24 at 8:11 pm to DiamondDog
The vast majority of CEOs and COOs have a STEM Bachelors and an MBA form a top Business school. Put in some time at Bain, McKinsey or Boston Consulting and you are golden.
Posted on 5/14/24 at 8:18 pm to JohnnyKilroy
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Obviously you also have to work your dick off. Most C Suite people I’ve come in contact with would rather be at the office than catching their alma maters Saturday night game.
This. For everyone that’s just lucky there’s 10 that worked their arse off, were yes men, and were willing to move or take projects that no one else wanted.
Hard work and long hours has made a lot of people “lucky”. Both of those also promote relationships that end up paying off well.
The more people you know the better chance you have of one of them being promoted to eventually promote you.
Posted on 5/14/24 at 8:22 pm to DiamondDog
Be tall. Have good hair. Profit.
EDIT: Unsure why the downvote, because this is absolutely a thing. There have been plenty of surveys correlating height and hair to promotion.
EDIT: Unsure why the downvote, because this is absolutely a thing. There have been plenty of surveys correlating height and hair to promotion.
This post was edited on 5/14/24 at 8:54 pm
Posted on 5/14/24 at 8:24 pm to DiamondDog
Every C level person I have been around is the smartest guy in the room type. They may not understand the small details but they can wrap their head around any problem and get things moving in the right direction quickly.
They can walk into a room with IT and business people, hear both sides, and understand both. Then take some high level corrective action if needed.
The good ones are impressive.
They can walk into a room with IT and business people, hear both sides, and understand both. Then take some high level corrective action if needed.
The good ones are impressive.
Posted on 5/14/24 at 8:26 pm to baldona
Not that high but I did ok.. but stayed technical route … I had chief and global in my title … to be completely honest.. a little luck and more than that … the guy above me got pulled up and he pulled me up also.. and so on and so on.. I found most people breaking into upward fast tracks have a sponsor above who also has a sponsor above.. try to find paths like that and work into them..
tbh.. my work ethic and skills were the same for the first half of my career while I moved at a regular rate as opposed the later when things moved quicker..
It is not what you know… but who you know…. Or how you fits into the pie charts.
tbh.. my work ethic and skills were the same for the first half of my career while I moved at a regular rate as opposed the later when things moved quicker..
It is not what you know… but who you know…. Or how you fits into the pie charts.
Posted on 5/14/24 at 8:28 pm to RoyalWe
Luck is a part of it. But you have to be prepared and have a good reputation when the opportunity arises.
I'm not an exec. I'm one notch below the "life changing" level. But even at this level I feel "lucky" because of the circumstances. But I had put in the work when the opportunity came.
I'm not an exec. I'm one notch below the "life changing" level. But even at this level I feel "lucky" because of the circumstances. But I had put in the work when the opportunity came.
Posted on 5/14/24 at 8:29 pm to DiamondDog
My friend just worked her way up from art director. She went to portfolio school so it’s what she always wanted to do. Now a chief creative officer of an agency with offices in New York and one other major city. The main client of hers now is one of the most well known companies in the world.
This post was edited on 5/14/24 at 8:30 pm
Posted on 5/14/24 at 8:36 pm to DiamondDog
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others I can't really figure out how they got to the executive positions.
Didn't
Earn
It
Posted on 5/14/24 at 8:41 pm to Grievous Angel
I'm having to put in my time in lower management waste land. Closest thing to crabs in a bucket I've ever experienced.
I'm getting my 3-5 years in and making the requisite jump.
I can definitely see how people get stuck at this level. This is the level where fiefdoms are built as long as you meet your KPIs.
I'm getting my 3-5 years in and making the requisite jump.
I can definitely see how people get stuck at this level. This is the level where fiefdoms are built as long as you meet your KPIs.
Posted on 5/14/24 at 8:43 pm to DiamondDog
Mostly it's either merit, persistence/longevity, being liked by the right people, or have some identity that is favored by decision makers.
A smaller portion is nepotism or something more scandalous.
A smaller portion is nepotism or something more scandalous.
Posted on 5/14/24 at 8:48 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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sociopathic tendencies
and
quote:
on the spectrum
are not even remotely the same thing.
Posted on 5/14/24 at 8:49 pm to SneezyBeltranIsHere
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The vast majority of CEOs and COOs have a STEM Bachelors and an MBA form a top Business school.
I was there, on that track... STEM bachelors and then an MBA at UT-Austin, so I guess I missed the big-time on the second degree. :-)
Was working my way up the C ladder at GE when I decided I freaking hated GE's culture. I worked for 3 of the largest companies in the world, but it wasn't for me.
So I started my own company 20 years ago and haven't regretted it. Although there have been times when I've been scared spitless.
Posted on 5/14/24 at 8:51 pm to DiamondDog
I have a buddy that’s about my age (51). He’s VP and Chief Audit Executive at a major insurance company. He makes great money, but he’s always been working towards that CFO position to make real “vacation house in the Caribbean and vacation house in the mountains” type of money. He’s two promotions away but recently told me he just doesn’t have the stomach to do what it takes to advance any further in his organization. He said to make it above his level, and often even AT his level, you truly have to be a complete sociopath.
This post was edited on 5/14/24 at 9:07 pm
Posted on 5/14/24 at 8:51 pm to DiamondDog
Most of the ones I’ve gotten to know have sacrificed a lot and I’m not convinced outside of their career they have much going for them. Kids with behavior issues, divorce, drinking and pill problems, etc.
Also a lot of them are willing to do pretty unethical things and not blink twice.
As mentioned you have to be completely committed to the company, know the right folks, play politics, and of course luck (right place right time)
Also a lot of them are willing to do pretty unethical things and not blink twice.
As mentioned you have to be completely committed to the company, know the right folks, play politics, and of course luck (right place right time)
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