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re: How did most C-Suite Execs get to that position?

Posted on 5/14/24 at 8:52 pm to
Posted by LSUSkip
Central, LA
Member since Jul 2012
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Posted on 5/14/24 at 8:52 pm to
There is one common theme, they all grabbed the brass ring when it swung their way. I think it takes a little luck to get noticed, but once you do, you have to make the most of the opportunity. It's not my scene, I never did play the corporate "groupthink" game. If I was asked a question, I answered it, and some people didn't like my answers. So be it.
Posted by beaverfever
Little Rock
Member since Jan 2008
32762 posts
Posted on 5/14/24 at 8:52 pm to
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Irrational confidence. I doubt myself way too much to get to that level.
It’s this. My last boss could lose 100 straight times and he’d bet everything he had on winning on his 101st try. He never even considered that something couldn’t go his way.
Posted by The Pirate King
Pangu
Member since May 2014
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Posted on 5/14/24 at 8:53 pm to
Knowing the right butts to kiss
Posted by PapaPogey
Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2008
39550 posts
Posted on 5/14/24 at 8:55 pm to
I think it just comes with experience, and in a lot of companies, tenure.

Every 10-15yrs a senior retires and a younger man or woman gets promoted. Be an eager company man with good people skills and you’ll get there eventually.
Posted by Masterag
'Round Dallas
Member since Sep 2014
18830 posts
Posted on 5/14/24 at 9:11 pm to
2 ways. Both require an intimate understanding of what makes people tick, how to motivate them and how to predict their behavior. Additionally, you have to do something to make it so that you are indispensable and people come to you for answers. Also, might have to move around for a bit. I have two uncles that were Chief executives of companies. One was a famous athlete, so that was most of what got him there, but to get where he got in both worlds took lots of hard work. The other made himself indispensable by being the guy who everybody came to for answers, and then leveraging that for promotions. He said his method of management came straight from the Bible. You give people what they need to succeed and they’ll be motivated to move mountains for you, never lie, and never say you can’t do something. Check out the book servant leadership for the method he used.

The other way is to know how people tick and use it to manipulate them. It’s the Joe Biden way and pretty much how most politicians operate. You find out peoples weakness and exploit them.
Posted by calcotron
Member since Nov 2007
8315 posts
Posted on 5/14/24 at 9:15 pm to
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I'm 38


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so I'm starting to look at my career the next 25-30 years


That's a depressing thought. My plan is out by 55, at the latest.

To your question, lots of the luck mentioned, and I've noticed a big form of that luck is people ahead of you leaving and you just floating upward. For some that never happens, others hit all the ladders on the board.
Posted by TigerGM
Member since Nov 2014
1027 posts
Posted on 5/14/24 at 9:25 pm to
I have a few guys that failed upwards in our company. One is pretty smart though and can handle a lot on his plate. The other is a yes man that is terrible at communication. He’s probably one of the least professional people in our company but good culture guy. The way he talks you’d think sling blade would be a better fit.
Posted by GRTiger
On a roof eating alligator pie
Member since Dec 2008
63245 posts
Posted on 5/14/24 at 9:28 pm to
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Knowing the right butts to kiss


Most of the time it doesn't even take that much. Really it's just knowing who not to rub the wrong way. I've seen some productive, highly intelligent people get passed over because they were always the one to call out leadership when they saw something they thought was wrong. Some were more right than not, but the approach was abrasive.

More broadly, often times having a more positive disposition and a more subtle and strategic way of communicating difficult things will take you higher than raw talent or technical skills.
This post was edited on 5/14/24 at 9:30 pm
Posted by Bow08tie
Louisiana
Member since Oct 2011
4235 posts
Posted on 5/14/24 at 9:32 pm to
Always be a yes man to everyone above you in hierarchy
Never pushback on those above you
Always be willing to cover/lie for those above you

If one is truly a principled person they find it tough and taxing to work and survive in executive positions.
Posted by CunningLinguist
Dallas, TX
Member since Mar 2006
18794 posts
Posted on 5/14/24 at 9:34 pm to
The c-suite people I have direct experience with are all amazing with communication and messaging. They also have a clear understanding of how to manage an issue from top/down. There is an aspect of luck to it all too

Studying and practicing leadership is a real thing. It takes a lot of time some people don’t want to do, like myself. I am middle management right now will probably end up one/two rungs below c-suite for my career. And I am good with that.
Posted by stuckintexas
austin
Member since Sep 2009
2230 posts
Posted on 5/14/24 at 9:50 pm to
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Owning my own business doesn't seem like it will ever happen

There's your answer. You have to be willing to take the risk. You have to be willing to put your own nuts on the line. I started a million dollar company 10 years ago with $8,000 of my own money, put in the blood and sweat to build it, took losses out of my own pocket, and always looked upward and forward. I now have multiple offices across Texas, and for the most part, simply enjoy my life and fruits of my labor. Its still work, but I do what I want, when I want. I'm now on a national level of electrical contractors and own one of the best in Texas. I had a vision, put in the time and resources, and made it happen.

When people look at what other people have, are envious and say things like, "must be nice," or "they were just in the right place at the right time," that removes the accountability and responsibility of the risk those people take that other people are not willing to take.

FWIW, I make every administrative/executive-level employee of mine read four books: Extreme Ownership, Dichotomy of Leadership, Leaders Eat Last, and The Infinite Game. The reason books seem to contradict each other is because people become successful by doing what is in line with their morals and principles. Those books line up with my morals and principles, how I want my company to operate, and what I want to pass on to those that are taking the next steps in their lives/careers.
This post was edited on 5/14/24 at 9:54 pm
Posted by Longhorn Actual
Member since Dec 2023
952 posts
Posted on 5/14/24 at 9:50 pm to
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STEM bachelors and then an MBA at UT-Austin, so I guess I missed the big-time on the second degree. :-)


From an academic perspective, McCombs is up there with the best of them. It’s limited in IB/MBB placement due to geography, not quality, and those things play heavily in the rankings. You didn’t “miss” on anything except perhaps having a shorter feed into “the club.”
This post was edited on 5/14/24 at 9:51 pm
Posted by hubreb
Member since Nov 2008
1851 posts
Posted on 5/14/24 at 9:51 pm to
If your good it is life flexibility but watch out for that one cock sucker boss who blocks you or puts you on the block....I had the opportunity once to move up big, my kids were 8-13 and I declined to stay in sales...glad I did
Posted by clamdip
Rocky Mountain High
Member since Sep 2004
17966 posts
Posted on 5/14/24 at 9:53 pm to
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From an academic perspective, McCombs is up there with the best of them. It’s limited in IB/MBB placement due to geography, not quality, and those things play heavily in the rankings. You didn’t “miss” on anything except perhaps having a shorter feed into “the club.”

Yes, that was tongue in cheek. It's a very good school.
Posted by TigerFlask
Colorado
Member since Oct 2004
312 posts
Posted on 5/14/24 at 9:57 pm to
I hope things work out for you. There have been a lot of useful comments in the thread in my opinion. I have been a CEO in four companies, COO, President, VP of Sales and head of Marketing in multiple healthcare companies. I have been fortunate to learn from some great leaders and great managers. That has been the key. Take the good stuff and avoid the bad things that you see and seek out those that behave and have the types of positions and attributes that you aspire to. Focus on delivering results, understanding exactly what you need to do to make your boss and his/her boss successful and take on the tough assignments. Be great to the people that work for you and the ones that you work with and challenge and pull along those people who want to do more and improve their positions and outcomes. Seek out mentors, solicit input and advice continuously. The most important things once doing that is treat everyone with dignity and respect, deliver results and record the statistics, $$'s and people that you have developed throughout your career for your resume and interviews. Ultimately that is what the Board will want, someone who can build a great culture, develop, attract and retain talent and achieve and surpass the financial goals of the organization.
Posted by JohnnyKilroy
Cajun Navy Vice Admiral
Member since Oct 2012
35568 posts
Posted on 5/14/24 at 10:00 pm to
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the guy above me got pulled up and he pulled me up also.. and so on and so on.. I found most people breaking into upward fast tracks have a sponsor above who also has a sponsor above.


Yep. In big companies this is the “easiest” way to make it to the top. You need to play the politics game and make mutually beneficial connections with those above you.


If you are just a head down and work hard person with no interest in corporate politics you’re gonna top out well before C suite.
Posted by VooDude
Member since Aug 2017
1092 posts
Posted on 5/14/24 at 10:03 pm to
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How did most C-Suite Execs get to that position?

Trust. Depends on the company, but for those that are mostly privately held, relatives are held close to the top. For public companies, those that you’ve become friends with and can trust to have your back.


Posted by Ostrich
Alexandria, VA
Member since Nov 2011
8781 posts
Posted on 5/14/24 at 10:04 pm to
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Always be a yes man to everyone above you in hierarchy
Never pushback on those above you
Always be willing to cover/lie for those above you

If one is truly a principled person they find it tough and taxing to work and survive in executive positions.


I mean it's just a job. I don't know how much personal principles have to do with it. Do your job, have the back of those above you, and you'll get promoted.
Posted by Snoop Dawg
Member since Sep 2009
2204 posts
Posted on 5/14/24 at 10:04 pm to
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You don't get to that level in any organization without having some sociopathic tendencies.



….or know how to handle and work around these jackholes.
Posted by GRTiger
On a roof eating alligator pie
Member since Dec 2008
63245 posts
Posted on 5/14/24 at 10:07 pm to
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Do your job, have the back of those above you, and you'll get promoted.


These days you'll have much more upward mobility by executing your job while having the backs of the quality people below you.
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