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re: How did Japan Mess It Up So Bad?

Posted on 7/6/26 at 10:10 am to
Posted by dalefla
Central FL
Member since Jul 2024
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Posted on 7/6/26 at 10:10 am to
Truthfully, even 1 in 1400 is 1 too many.
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Posted by chRxis
None of your fricking business
Member since Feb 2008
28267 posts
Posted on 7/6/26 at 10:36 am to
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Japan is still a wonderful place. Clean, safe, most polite people on Earth, tons of entertainment, incredible food, skiing in the mountains, beaches, etc.

1000% agree.... we went last summer, and it was hot as frick, so it wasn't the most enjoyable vacation ever, but still impressive country nonetheless... i'd like to re-do the trip at a different part of the year, though
Posted by TheIndulger
Member since Sep 2011
19448 posts
Posted on 7/6/26 at 10:41 am to
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Prob political corruption. Just look at Louisiana and all the natural resources it has (MS River, oil, etc) yet it’s a cesspool of poverty compared to the rest of the country.


Comparing Japan to Louisiana?
Posted by KiwiHead
Auckland, NZ
Member since Jul 2014
38511 posts
Posted on 7/6/26 at 10:45 am to
This is something that US commentators never get their heads around in either Japan or Europe.....especially Europe. But Japan took a demographic beating as well although not as profound as Europe. After the war there were 92 men to every 100 Japanese women down from 103 men to every 100 pre war. But Japanese birthrate stagnated and have gone into almost n evasive territory especially in the past 20 years as Japan became one of the most urban societies in the developed world

In Germany, overall that number was 86 men to every 100 women and in the prime reproductive ages it was even more stark of 6 men for every 10 women of the ages between 20-40. Now, couple that with those men killed in WWI. Americans by comparison go to Europe and the Pacific, lose men, but they return home to an intact society physically untouched by war and have a baby boom.

There are psychological and psychic scars to war that last for generations that we in the US have not had to deal with, thankfully
Posted by RandRules
Member since Mar 2025
583 posts
Posted on 7/6/26 at 10:50 am to
For one, they have no natural resources. Every raw product they need must be imported. It’s a big reason why they fought WWII
Posted by DesScorp
Alabama
Member since Sep 2017
10704 posts
Posted on 7/6/26 at 10:52 am to
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What did we do different that has caused us to thrive?


Who says we did?

There’s a strong argument to be made that our “wealth” is all paper fakery, a game of pretend that only works as long as everyone keeps playing. Look at how many of our factories we moved overseas. Look at all the inflation over the past few decades. Much of our “wealth” is guys in New York pushing piles of paper from one desk to another and taking a commission with every transfer .

This post was edited on 7/6/26 at 10:54 am
Posted by CatfishJohn
Member since Jun 2020
22270 posts
Posted on 7/6/26 at 10:52 am to
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Out of every 1,400 people living in America, 1,399 of them aren't Somalian, but feel free to contirbute to this thread with your overdramatic braindead drivel.



Still seems like a lot
Posted by prplhze2000
Parts Unknown
Member since Jan 2007
58836 posts
Posted on 7/6/26 at 10:54 am to
stimulus spending, won't cut taxes, etc.
Posted by wm72
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2010
9735 posts
Posted on 7/6/26 at 11:13 am to
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Who says we did?

There’s a strong argument to be made that our “wealth” is all paper fakery, a game of pretend that only works as long as everyone keeps playing. Look at how many of our factories we moved overseas. Look at all the inflation over the past few decades. Much of our “wealth” is guys in New York pushing piles of paper from one desk to another and taking a commission with every transfer .


Agreed, that's what I was talking about in my previous post.

So much "wealth" in terms of real estate, business/industrial structure etc has been gobbled up by private equity backed investors.

It's worth more to them as leverage based on inflated assessed values whereas a disperse middle class ownership required a more actual "market".

It takes a real "economic expert" to explain how great it is that investors buy most of the retail space in an excellent location to have it sit empty for years because it's worth more to them as leverage than the rent any small business can actually pay.

Like you say "paper fakery" more than an actual market value. And pretty similar to the reason Japan "messed it up so badly".


Posted by Violent Hip Swivel
Member since Aug 2023
10120 posts
Posted on 7/6/26 at 11:13 am to
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Truthfully, even 1 in 1400 is 1 too many.



Was responding to the "We are Somlia now," which was melodramatic braindead bullshite.
Posted by cbree88
South Louisiana
Member since Feb 2010
10841 posts
Posted on 7/6/26 at 11:17 am to
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What did we do different that has caused us to thrive?


Are we really thriving compared to Japan?
Posted by friendlyobservation
Member since Mar 2024
5480 posts
Posted on 7/6/26 at 11:18 am to
I know one major contribution among many to their issues is birthrate issues. Their government has programs to have children with their women because of how old their population is. They actually want foreigners to come to have kids but you have to prove you're financially secure. It's a major problem because they can't reinforce their workforce with younger workers enough.

Believe it or not US is actually headed on a similar trajectory if things don't change on birthrates. I'm not sure we're thriving like you think we are. In fact, the USD will be worth nothing eventually if the debt ceiling continues to mount every new administration.
This post was edited on 7/6/26 at 11:21 am
Posted by ChEgrad
Member since Nov 2012
3952 posts
Posted on 7/6/26 at 11:26 am to
I’ve never been to Japan, but life there seems to be pretty good. How has the economic “slump” affected the lifestyle of the average person in Japan? What is missing from their life that they desire?
Posted by ChatGPT of LA
Member since Mar 2023
7672 posts
Posted on 7/6/26 at 11:45 am to
We rebuilt them after the war. They used that momentum and catapulted ahead of everyone in the car industry especially.
Honestly, I think everyone else just eventually caught up to their jet fueled progress they were given back then
Posted by turnpiketiger
Member since May 2020
12609 posts
Posted on 7/6/26 at 12:18 pm to
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Just look at Louisiana and all the natural resources it has (MS River, oil, etc) yet it’s a cesspool of poverty compared to the rest of the country.


Louisiana will always have those awful demographics working against it no matter what. They will never magically disappear
Posted by biglego
San Francisco
Member since Nov 2007
85553 posts
Posted on 7/6/26 at 1:08 pm to
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Out of every 1,400 people living in America, 1,399 of them aren't Somalian


Only bc your people haven’t fully taken charge yet.

And you have to make a narrow literal response to my statement bc you know exactly what I’m saying but you’re too pussy to outwardly admit what you support. You’ll never simply say “I support flooding the West with African and Middle Eastern migrants bc I am consumed by white guilt.” You won’t say that truth but you’ll certainly vote for any politician pushing for white replacement.
Posted by PsychTiger
Member since Jul 2004
110700 posts
Posted on 7/6/26 at 1:13 pm to
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Watched Die Hard for the 4th weekend?


Why would you watch Die Hard for the 4th? It's a Christmas movie.
Posted by CrazyTigerFan
Member since Nov 2003
3702 posts
Posted on 7/6/26 at 1:15 pm to
When I lived near Osaka, the summer was hotter and more humid than in New Orleans. Never wouls have thought that before going. The good thing about their summer is that it comes and then it goes, unlike south Louisiana.
Posted by LSU Neil
Springfield
Member since Feb 2007
3663 posts
Posted on 7/6/26 at 1:17 pm to
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Boomers


At least this is not coming from el gaucho this time. I think that is his standard response to anything and everything
Posted by Sofaking2
Member since Apr 2023
22188 posts
Posted on 7/6/26 at 1:19 pm to
I understand factors like an asset bubble collapse in the 1990s, deflation, loose monetary policy, etc. but no society can thrive that’s rapidly aging demographically. South Korea and Japan are done. A society of old people isn’t a future.
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