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re: How did Japan Mess It Up So Bad?

Posted on 7/6/26 at 1:46 pm to
Posted by TheRealTigerHorn
Member since Jun 2023
471 posts
Posted on 7/6/26 at 1:46 pm to
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Japan implemented loose monetary policies that led to extreme speculation in real estate and the stock market. By 1989, the Nikkei 225 index reached nearly 39,000. When the Bank of Japan raised interest rates to cool the market in 1990, the bubble burst. Land and stock prices plummeted


Hmmm....


Before you get too excited about predicting the US is going down that same road, realize we've already done it 3x since Japan hit the wall:

- S&L crisis, 1990s
- Y2K bubble burst
- 2008-09 Financial meltdown

And I guess you could count COVID too. Japan has structural and cultural problems that we don't, well beyond just birth rates. You think raising a kid is expensive here, try it as a traditional Japanese salaryman there. Business failure there is seppuku time, here's its conversation fodder for lessons learned on your next VC raise. On and on. As great a place as Japan is in many respects, they are often their own worst enemy.
Posted by wm72
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2010
9488 posts
Posted on 7/6/26 at 2:36 pm to
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Japan implemented loose monetary policies that led to extreme speculation in real estate and the stock market. By 1989, the Nikkei 225 index reached nearly 39,000.


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Before you get too excited about predicting the US is going down that same road, realize we've already done it 3x since Japan hit the wall:

- S&L crisis, 1990s
- Y2K bubble burst
- 2008-09 Financial meltdown



Yet, here we are doing pretty much the same stuff. As long as the top investors line their pockets.

Like the USA, you can also say Japan weathered theirs to the degree that their general populace is far from living in poverty. Just not as well as they would be without those money grabs.

This post was edited on 7/6/26 at 2:56 pm
Posted by chRxis
None of your fricking business
Member since Feb 2008
28074 posts
Posted on 7/6/26 at 2:40 pm to
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Never wouls have thought that before going

same... it was very unexpected, and literally drenched in sweat all day... luckily they have vending machines with water literally everywhere, but bruh, it was fricking HOT...

had the best burger i've ever eaten in my life at this little hole in the wall place near the aquarium in Osaka...
Posted by RanchoLaPuerto
Jena
Member since Aug 2023
2242 posts
Posted on 7/6/26 at 2:40 pm to
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A society of old people isn’t a future.


So with our plummeting birth rate and reduced immigration, is this our fate?

Note: I am not pushing any side on the politics of immigration. I am just talking about numbers.
Posted by BabyTac
Austin, TX
Member since Jun 2008
16921 posts
Posted on 7/6/26 at 3:15 pm to
Blame blacks all you want. They are a drain, but Louisiana’s problem boils down to a handful of families.
Posted by BoardReader
Arkansas
Member since Dec 2007
7411 posts
Posted on 7/6/26 at 3:15 pm to
They had the twin whammies of a bubble pop followed by immediate contraction in the population.

The US has a healthier demography than Japan had in the 70s, but it isn't a given we won't be headed the same route; the good news is the rest of the world is even further in the shitter than we are, and the Chinese are screwed most of all.
Posted by BuckI
Grove City, Ohio
Member since Oct 2020
7490 posts
Posted on 7/6/26 at 3:22 pm to
What effect if any did the rise of China have on Japan?
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