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re: How did Japan Mess It Up So Bad?

Posted on 7/6/26 at 1:46 pm to
Posted by TheRealTigerHorn
Member since Jun 2023
480 posts
Posted on 7/6/26 at 1:46 pm to
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Japan implemented loose monetary policies that led to extreme speculation in real estate and the stock market. By 1989, the Nikkei 225 index reached nearly 39,000. When the Bank of Japan raised interest rates to cool the market in 1990, the bubble burst. Land and stock prices plummeted


Hmmm....


Before you get too excited about predicting the US is going down that same road, realize we've already done it 3x since Japan hit the wall:

- S&L crisis, 1990s
- Y2K bubble burst
- 2008-09 Financial meltdown

And I guess you could count COVID too. Japan has structural and cultural problems that we don't, well beyond just birth rates. You think raising a kid is expensive here, try it as a traditional Japanese salaryman there. Business failure there is seppuku time, here's its conversation fodder for lessons learned on your next VC raise. On and on. As great a place as Japan is in many respects, they are often their own worst enemy.
Posted by wm72
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2010
9729 posts
Posted on 7/6/26 at 2:36 pm to
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Japan implemented loose monetary policies that led to extreme speculation in real estate and the stock market. By 1989, the Nikkei 225 index reached nearly 39,000.


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Before you get too excited about predicting the US is going down that same road, realize we've already done it 3x since Japan hit the wall:

- S&L crisis, 1990s
- Y2K bubble burst
- 2008-09 Financial meltdown



Yet, here we are doing pretty much the same stuff. As long as the top investors line their pockets.

Like the USA, you can also say Japan weathered theirs to the degree that their general populace is far from living in poverty. Just not as well as they would be without those money grabs.

This post was edited on 7/6/26 at 2:56 pm
Posted by chRxis
None of your fricking business
Member since Feb 2008
28266 posts
Posted on 7/6/26 at 2:40 pm to
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Never wouls have thought that before going

same... it was very unexpected, and literally drenched in sweat all day... luckily they have vending machines with water literally everywhere, but bruh, it was fricking HOT...

had the best burger i've ever eaten in my life at this little hole in the wall place near the aquarium in Osaka...
Posted by RanchoLaPuerto
Jena
Member since Aug 2023
2468 posts
Posted on 7/6/26 at 2:40 pm to
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A society of old people isn’t a future.


So with our plummeting birth rate and reduced immigration, is this our fate?

Note: I am not pushing any side on the politics of immigration. I am just talking about numbers.
Posted by BabyTac
Austin, TX
Member since Jun 2008
17194 posts
Posted on 7/6/26 at 3:15 pm to
Blame blacks all you want. They are a drain, but Louisiana’s problem boils down to a handful of families.
Posted by BoardReader
Arkansas
Member since Dec 2007
7414 posts
Posted on 7/6/26 at 3:15 pm to
They had the twin whammies of a bubble pop followed by immediate contraction in the population.

The US has a healthier demography than Japan had in the 70s, but it isn't a given we won't be headed the same route; the good news is the rest of the world is even further in the shitter than we are, and the Chinese are screwed most of all.
Posted by BuckI
Grove City, Ohio
Member since Oct 2020
7581 posts
Posted on 7/6/26 at 3:22 pm to
What effect if any did the rise of China have on Japan?
Posted by keks tadpole
Yellow Leaf Creek
Member since Feb 2017
8869 posts
Posted on 7/6/26 at 5:16 pm to
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There are psychological and psychic scars to war that last for generations that we in the US have not had to deal with, thankfully

I'll agree, but I would like to track progressive trends in the US from 1865 though the 1970s and see if it correlates generationally with US male casualties related to the Civil War thru Vietnam.
Posted by T1gerNate
Member since Feb 2020
4007 posts
Posted on 7/6/26 at 5:21 pm to
Interesting thing about this is Sony (a japanese company) invented the lithium ion battery. Japan could and arguably should have been the saudi arabia of battery production and been THE single country powering the smartphone/EV economy. But due to their overly conservative corporate culture that became stagnant it allowed CHYNA to lap them in battery R&D and production and today they are not really even in the game when it comes to battery production. Pretty interesting case study when you think about it.
Posted by turnpiketiger
Member since May 2020
12609 posts
Posted on 7/7/26 at 12:10 pm to
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Blame blacks all you want. They are a drain, but Louisiana’s problem boils down to a handful of families.


Woah woah woah. I never said blacks. You’re just assuming. There’s just as many bad white trash holding the state back as there are blacks.


That’s why I said demographics. Not just blaming one racial group.
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