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re: How did Japan Mess It Up So Bad?

Posted on 7/6/26 at 8:34 am to
Posted by Fun Bunch
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Posted on 7/6/26 at 8:34 am to
Seoul is passing Tokyo up

I went to both recently and Seoul in a lot of areas felt much more advanced and vibrant
Posted by Keltic Tiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2006
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Posted on 7/6/26 at 8:37 am to
Their ageing population issue is real. My youngest son has been there for 7+ yrs, now expecting his third child with his gorgeous Japanese wife. It's such an issue that the government has passed a law that families with 3 children get free schooling, pre K through college, for life. Their third child will fly free, throughout Japan. Marriage rates are down significantly is part of the problem.
Posted by Ben Hur
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2013
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Posted on 7/6/26 at 8:44 am to
Japan’s low birth rates the last few decades have the young population supporting a disproportionate aging population.

Combine that with their strict immigration laws, which have prevented the flow of young workers to help make up for the lost generation.

(Not saying a flood of illegal immigrants would help. I’m talking about legal, vetted, educated immigration to fill in the gaps in the work force)
Posted by Hangover Haven
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Posted on 7/6/26 at 8:46 am to
Posted by Strannix
C.S.A.
Member since Dec 2012
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Posted on 7/6/26 at 8:52 am to
Without black females to drive innovation their economy was always doomed.
Posted by Baers Foot
Louisiana Ragin' Cajuns
Member since Dec 2011
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Posted on 7/6/26 at 8:53 am to
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Japan implemented loose monetary policies that led to extreme speculation in real estate and the stock market. By 1989, the Nikkei 225 index reached nearly 39,000. When the Bank of Japan raised interest rates to cool the market in 1990, the bubble burst. Land and stock prices plummeted


Hmmm....
Posted by Everyday Is Saturday
Member since Dec 2025
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Posted on 7/6/26 at 8:56 am to
Dry powder is ready. I hear you.
Posted by CatfishJohn
Member since Jun 2020
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Posted on 7/6/26 at 8:56 am to
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Their ageing population issue is real. My youngest son has been there for 7+ yrs, now expecting his third child with his gorgeous Japanese wife. It's such an issue that the government has passed a law that families with 3 children get free schooling, pre K through college, for life. Their third child will fly free, throughout Japan. Marriage rates are down significantly is part of the problem.



The men are incels.
Posted by Meauxjeaux
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Posted on 7/6/26 at 9:05 am to
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They didn't hire SFP as their chief economist


SFPDS

Fatigue
Posted by Roaad
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Posted on 7/6/26 at 9:08 am to
And also plummeting birth rates.

Successful countries need to breed like Congo, or they'll become Congo
Posted by Roaad
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Posted on 7/6/26 at 9:09 am to
Was it the bomb, or all the masculine men being killed in a losing war?
Posted by Violent Hip Swivel
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Posted on 7/6/26 at 9:14 am to
Their number of working-age people per retired-age people is all jacked up. Most nation-states would fix with immigration, but there's never been the appetite for it in Japan.

It's the same reason why China should be in a tremendous amount of deep shite. Right now the ratio is 3:1 and in 20 years it will be 2:1. It will be an unprecedented social experiment. Think about how much econommic anxiety and gloom there is among young adults in the United States today, and muliply that by 20 or 30 in China in about 20 years.
Posted by Roaad
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Posted on 7/6/26 at 9:15 am to
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Seoul is passing Tokyo up

I went to both recently and Seoul in a lot of areas felt much more advanced and vibrant
South Korea may not exist in 20 years
Posted by biglego
San Francisco
Member since Nov 2007
85153 posts
Posted on 7/6/26 at 9:31 am to
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Population declining births, leads to an aging workforce, that strict immigration controls affect.


I wish western countries would preserve themselves the same way. “Oh no our population is shrinking. We must become Somalia now.”
Posted by real turf fan
East Tennessee
Member since Dec 2016
12062 posts
Posted on 7/6/26 at 9:38 am to
About the movie Rising Son, a friend nad worked for a Japanese multinational company and was describing when the son was sent to the US to head things here.
Rising Son may well have been inspired by that young man and his ineptitudes.
Posted by LoveThatMoney
Who knows where?
Member since Jan 2008
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Posted on 7/6/26 at 9:48 am to
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is funny watching 80s movies and you hear the occasional “The Japanese are going to own us” line. Sounds just like the China commentary since 2009


The difference being China literally owns us and has cornered one of the most important markets currently propping up our economy: chips
Posted by Henry Jones Jr
Member since Jun 2011
77606 posts
Posted on 7/6/26 at 9:50 am to
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The difference being China literally owns us and has cornered one of the most important markets currently propping up our economy: chips
None of that is remotely true
This post was edited on 7/6/26 at 9:50 am
Posted by wm72
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2010
9486 posts
Posted on 7/6/26 at 9:56 am to
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Following the 1985 Plaza Agreement, Japan implemented loose monetary policies that led to extreme speculation in real estate and the stock market. By 1989, the Nikkei 225 index reached nearly 39,000


Concerning that the US is not currently getting a handle on policy that seems intent on ballooning assets for private equity backed investors at all costs.

Having so much real estate gobbled up and assessed at values beyond what actual renters/buyers can pay for leverage seems a fools errand for many of us non-economic experts.
Posted by Violent Hip Swivel
Member since Aug 2023
9700 posts
Posted on 7/6/26 at 9:56 am to
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I wish western countries would preserve themselves the same way. “Oh no our population is shrinking. We must become Somalia now.”



Out of every 1,400 people living in America, 1,399 of them aren't Somalian, but feel free to contirbute to this thread with your overdramatic braindead drivel.
Posted by jimmy the leg
Member since Aug 2007
44971 posts
Posted on 7/6/26 at 9:59 am to
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Their number of working-age people per retired-age people is all jacked up. Most nation-states would fix with immigration, but there's never been the appetite for it in Japan.


Good on Japan.

AI and automation will ease their issue. Ditto China.

Place with mass immigration (especially illegals)…aka: the West, are going to be slammed by AI and automation.

America has the opportunity to get on the front foot.

Europe…not so much.
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